…The Jewish Community Center of Metropolitan Detroit Presents as Part of the "Hot Topics Series. „" J Peace in the Family: A Discussion On Jewish Unity with: Rabbi Harold Loss Temple Israel Professor Alan Schenk T'Chiyah Rabbi Efry Spectre Adat Shalom Rabbi Steven Weil Young Israel Barbara Cuuk. 17,11 Thursday, September 25, 1997 • 7:30 p.m. Jewish Community Center Maple/Drake Building This program is co-sponsored by the Jewish Commun...…
…Changing the area code on your Ameritech Pager or Cellular phone is easy at Midwest Autotel. her time in the volunteer sector, but decided to work full-time. "I love it [volunteering], and I still do it, but it's a little here and a little there. It was a natural to work for a synagogue since I am a past president [of Adat Shalom], and I've been involved with synagogue life my entire life. I've done a lot of the components of the job of execu...…
…WO, Families... Not A Stretch JCC membership discounts make it easier for Jewish communal employees to get in shape. hyping ■ Yad Ezra provides kosher food packages to 1,000 families every month. The families helped by Yad Ezra include: single parents disabled working poor the elderly new Americans ill those in emergency situations. With your help, all families in our community can enjoy a nutritious and satisfying meal. ■ ■ ■ ■ $ 1...…
…From Our GOFFReD0 - Farynni Fall Collection in black suede. Rabbi Yoskowitz: Advocacy for JCC is constant. this generous rate," he said. Although the membership dis- counts went into effect four months ago, many Jewish communal staff say they only learned of it last week when the JCC sent out letters. Marianne Bloomberg, director of development at Hillel Day School, just bought a NordicTrack for use at home. But she says the JCC offer is...…
…SILVER COINS GOLD COINS I TIFFANY FP,ANKUN MINT STERLING SILVER SILVER DOLLARS ANTIQUE SILVER FLATVVRRE SETS CANDLESTICKS PAPER MONEY PATEK PHILL1PE VACHERON TEA sERvicEs I ANTIQUE JEWELRY POCKET WATCHES COIN COLLECTIONS ROLEX WATCHES STICK PINS BROACHES HUMMELS SILVER BARS DIAMONDS GEMSTONES SCRAP GOLD OBJECTS D'ART BOWLS s TRAYS CARVER COIN WATCHES VEIN GLEEF RINGS POSTCARDS PIAGET PENDANTS 1044 KARAT GOLD ROYAL DOQLTON CHAINS EARRINGS We ...…
…Federation's planning department, would not comment on Darchei Torah's prospects for receiving an allo- cation. "We have an application from them and have had discussions previ- ously," she said. 'At this point, we're waiting for more information from them." Maza, a ba'al teshuva (newly Orthodox Jew) with experience in business and Jewish outreach, was recruited by the Darchei Torah board after years of on-off searching for the perfect candida...…
…V I 63° AMI400-- Community We Sell Quality Brand Name Closeouts at "AMAZING" Prices! New Closeouts Arriving Daily. One Time Deals! OUR BELOW WHOLESALE DEPARTMENT STORE! AMAZING \e. AR TREKTM COLLECTIBLE COMMEMORATIVE PLAQUE AMAZING va Large marbleized wood plaques feature Captains Picard and Kirk on a mini poster and official country of origin postage stamps. The plaque is protected by a clear acrylic overlay. This unique series is a l...…
…Tamara ck C amps 95TH ANNIVERSARY ART & PHOTO EXHIBITION Sunday September 14 — Wednesday, September 24 West Bloomfield JCC 6600 W Maple Road • West Bloomfield ME9OCIA.L. 1 WEILALIVID CIIIPMMTIEMT=r FOR THE ARTISTS SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 14 2 P.M. FOOD, FUN & FRIENDS! BRING YOUR FAMILY & FRIENDS! We are looking to update our records in preparation for this special time at camp. If you were ever part of the Fresh Air Society and Tamarack Camps...…
…JULIE WIENER Staff Writer NCJW event benefits literacy project. ingo is one of the first word games a beginning reader can play. And by playing at "Bingo for Books" last week- end, a crowd of youngsters — ages 3-10 — were raising funds to help their peers for whom reading is a strug- gle. Sponsored by the National Council for Jewish Women's "Just 4 Kids" group, the event at the Jimmy Prentis Morris Jewish Community Center brought in 300 new ...…
…OPPOSITE PAGE, TOP: Chaim Gross, 3, enjoys his prize. OPPOSITE PAGE, BOTTOM: Naomi Gross helps Chaim. THIS PAGE, CLOCKWISE FROM TOP LEFT Jessica Cicurel, 6, almost wins, but just misses. Debbie Landau reads stories to those not playing Bingo. Chairwoman Andrea Stone presents a prize to winner Ayelet Shapiro, while Ayelet's mom, Sharona, watches. Doug. Stone helps 6-year-old son Noah. …
…Kids enjoy the stage at Katy Zack's bat mitzvah. New Party Spot A Ferndale night club is getting into bar and bat mitzvah parties. AMINLI•111f. ■■11■1■ /4 A ■■ . TR -11 MIND TI1111 OEM VOU GNI (ITT SUMIPTION OT TAB JIWISII NSW{ WI Will SAND you TWO all 1110Y11 TICHTc TO 141 STAR 111141T111 SOUT4g110. YES! Please send me 52 issues of JN. Detroit Jewish News plus 5 issues of Style Magazine for only $46 ($63 out-of-state). ❑ Please bill me...…
…ROSH HASHANAH Tradition! GREETINGS Continue A 55-Year Wish Family, Friends And '1' he Entire Community A Happy New Year Bed mishei. tor a happy, heathy (item (Year. — NAME — #1 These are samples of the personal greetings available to you. $17 00 May +he comins yealA be filled 12.11 DTI 112.1Z with health and happiness foi,' to all ottiiendri anclpelatives. Please note that our annual Rosh Hashanah issue will appear on September 2...…
…At Its Hardest Detroit Jewish women visit needy Jews in Ukraine. PHIL JACOBS Editor O n one hand, Susan Citrin, Beverly Liss and Sandra Jaffa wouldn't have traded the experience for the world. On the other hand, they wished that the conditions they saw in the Ukraine weren't being experienced by anyone. Citrin, co-chair of the 1998 Allied Jewish Campaign, visited the region as part of the United Jewish Appeal Chairman's Mission this summer...…
…WE WANT OUR Children TO KNOW THAT Judaism Is MORE THAN THIS... *6- so MORE THAN ANYTHING... IF YOU DON'T JOIN SHIR SHALOM, FIND ANOTHER TEMPLE . . BUT FOR YOUR SAKE, FOR YOUR FAMILY'S SAKE, FOR JUDAISM SAKE, FOR GOD'S SAKE. . . BELONG! TEMPLE )*( T 1 SHIR SHALOM FOR MEMBERSHIP INFORMATION CALL TODAY! 248 -737-8700 3999 Walnut. Lake R. oad. (at Orchard Lake Road) West Bloomfield, Michigan 48323 9/12 1997 33 …
…For the Second Year in a Row... Michigan's #1 Standards for Excellence Dealer 1997 SEVILLE SLS \ / Must be a current Cadillac GMAC Smartleasee*** Leather seats, memory seats & chrome wheels. 24 MONTH SMART LEASE $1900 down SMART LEASE PLUS SINGLE PAYMENT Based on 24 months 12 MONTH SMART LEASE ‘, $499* 'E I SMART LEASE PLUS $6,037** SINGLE PAYMENT Based on 12 months 1997 SEVILLE SLS Leather seats, astro roof, leather interior. Co...…
…PONTIAC-GMC TRUCK Over 1000 New Vehicles Available All Prices Include Destination - Just Add Tax RAND PRIX 4-DOOR SEDAN 1997 GMC JIMMY SLS 4-DOOR GM Option Buyer Subtract Additional $1,346.00 GM Option Buyer Subtract Additional $939.70 Air Conditioning & Automatic Transmission With Starcraft onversio Stk.#200233 Stk.#538871 36 MO. LEASE SPECIAL 30 MO. LEASE SPECIAL 4.36L V6, auto, air, tilt, cruise, pwr. mirrors, lugg. rack, pwr. w...…
…FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE .6,', Farmington Hills Industrial Center 0 1/b, d'o 10 MILE II HALSTEAD RD. Internet: www.sherwoodstudiosinc.com E-mail: SherwoodWB@AOLcom :0 4N\ SHERWOOD i_ 0 , <4'2 CLEARANCE CENTER 0 ,c- HAGGERTY Groups sold as complete sets. All Sales Final Immediate Delivery MEADO WBROOK RD. / I Sherwood Studios announces its 50/50 After Tent Sale, Sale at their Clearance Center. Not only is all furniture 50% off... bu...…
…c7--- TTBn Hillel Day School's barbecue for new students: Enrollment has grown by 37 percent in the past decade /--- Steady Growt Enrollment at local day schools is up this year, but not skyrocketing. JULIE WIENER Staff Writer W ith students settling into the new academic year, local day school enroll- ment numbers are in, and they're up slightly. Hillel Day School and Yeshiva Beth Yehudah are boasting the largest increases. Hillel's st...…
…Flitting 1101VIE LYNNE MEREDITH COHN StaffWriter Y oni and Ari Sherizen had only been in Israel for 24 hours when they were caught up in the aftermath of a dreadful Ben Yehuda Street triple bombing Sept. 4. The brothers from The bombing did not scare the moments to register what had hap- Sherizens into leaving Israel; just the pened," Ari recalls. "I instinctively opposite. Being in Israel, Ari, 18, says dove behind the cash register coun...…
…▪ Prices so low, you'll walk all over us. e'g r, • t As. A MILL FLOOR COVERINGS This Week Featuring: beings; seeing uncertainty overwhelm families in hospital waiting rooms; and seeing a victim of a terrorist attack deal with complications none of us should ever know — I can tell you first-hand that it's not worth waiting any longer to act." Every so often, Ari has flashbacks to the bombing. "I constantly find myself staring at people...…
…Editorials It's Time To Return To The Maccabi Games Many of us still remember the voice of corn- munity leader and Maccabi master of cere- monies David Hermelin welcoming athletes from around the world during the colorful opening at the Palace of Auburn Hills. That was in August of 1990. Some 2,200 athletes and hundreds of coaches came to Detroit for a spectacle that is still talked about nationally as the standard for these games. The Detro...…
…COMMENT The 'Vanishing' Jews Are Still With Us N GARY ROSENBLATT Special to The Jewish News T he general media has discov- ered the decade-old Jewish Continuity Crisis — with a vengeance. New York maga- zine's July 14 cover story, "Are American Jews Disappearing?" comes on the heels of a Sunday New York Times Magazine article (called "Vanishing,") and a National Review piece by Elliott Abrams titled "Can Jews Survive?" The upshot of each ...…
…LETTERS QUESTION page 40 Attention Medicare Beneficiaries Introducing Medicare Blue. . . a new alternative to Medicare coverage. Medicare Blue — more benefits than Medicare or supplemental coverage combined! Blue Care Network, the HMO affiliate of Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Michigan, has a new health care plan for Medicare eligibles - Medicare Blue. Medicare Blue combines your Medicare and supplemental coverage into one complete...…
…ADAT SLALOM SYNAGOGUE trp5rt nt 1111 1 1, 1 1, 1 ) Cam' 115 This is Adat Shalom's Main Entrance at 29901 Middlebelt Road in Farmington Hills. Please join us for our new Family Rosh Hashanah Service at 4:30 p.m. on Thursda y, October 2. It for parents and children to greet the New Year together. Then come with us down to our Adat Shalom pond for Tashlikla at 5:30 p.m. To learn more about us and receive a complimentary coloring book and c...…
…Community • Manfred Moser The Department of Michigan Jewish War Veterans and Ladies Auxiliary took part in the Hamtramck Labor Day Parade. Shown lining up a segment of the members to begin the march are State Commander Iry Marshall and Auxiliary State President Flo Weber. Aging Resource Fair At Maple-Drake JCC - 6 urs. "In Th'e tertamment "Aging Has Its Benefits—Putting the Pieces Together: Benefits and Services for Older Adults," an...…
…The Michigan Chapter of the American Friends of The Hebrew University cordially invites you to join us as we present the 7(s,\ N zY Supervisor of West Bloomfield Township Monday, September 15, 1997 Temple Israel - 5725 Walnut Lake Road West Bloomfield. Strolling Dinner 6:30 p. r..• • sk, Reservations $150 per person Each reservation includes a tax-deductible donation of $75 • Wasit7A0MM. ." • '' • . For further information please ...…
…Milestones ■ 11 ■ 111.1=1•1151MIM, ANNET 1. ES "CI ci 13outicT YOUR FITTING SOLUTION The Finest Quality Swimwear • Bras • Shapewear • Lingerie Wigs and Head Coverings Engagements Plus & Extended Sizes Full Service Mastectomy Boutique 248 680-1600 3646 Rochester Rd. • Troy • Century Plaza z CREATIVE . VIDEO Competitive Pricing And A Reputation For Being The BEST VIDEO Company in the Community • (248) 851-2300 TONE-e CREATI...…
…Personalized Candy Bar Announcements Judy and Howard Koss of West Bloomfield and Sandra and Lawrence Schiff of Farmington Hills. Mathilde will complete her master's degree from La Sorbonne University of Paris in human resource manage- ment in the fall. Brian is finishing his doctorate degree from the University of Chicago in human development psychology. They will live in Israel for a year, where Brian will be a post doctorate fellow at the H...…
…Milestones y FLOWER Creations By Cei ] wedding specialists 248-544-4500 ry 3071 W. 12 Mile • Berkley Time To Order Your Holiday Centerpieces! FULL SERVICE FLORISTS PARTIES, SYMPATHY, HOSPITALS Ceil Stocker Larry Stocker • Sandi Stocker Since 1930 Bar/Bat Mitzvahs Seth is an eighth-grade student at Birmingham Covington School. He studies piano and cello and plays in the concert orchestra of Metropolitan Youth Symphony. DAVID SYME BAND...…
…Give them the best. TM T71 stride rite„ Sperry Top-Sider® Custom Fitted by our Experienced Staff! Newport Jaime Rosman Jaime Michelle Rosman will be called to the Torah as a bat mitzvah on / Saturday, Sept. 13, at Temple Israel. She is the daughter of Marla and Dr. David Rosman, sister of Erica and Ryan and grandchild of Janet and Jerry Rosman, Claire Schwartz and the late Dr. Arthur Schwartz; her proud great-grandmothers are Pauline Be...…
…Milestones ROSH HASHANA CARRY-OUT MENU Appetizers: • Gefilte Fish • Mushroom Barley Soup • Chicken Soup - 1/2 gal • Matzoh Balls • Vegetarian Chopped Liver • Sweet and Sour Meatballs Price $3.00/serving $8.00/1/2 gallon $8.00/1/2 gallon $ .79/each $7.49/pound $6.50/pound Entrees- • 1/2 Roast Chicken • Prime Rib • Stuffed Chicken Breast • Stuffed Cabbage • Whole Turkey (Stuffing & Gravy) $5.99/each $10.50/serving $8.99/each $3.50/each $55....…
…and enjoys movies. Mike plays drums and video games and is into comput- ers. He is a veteran disc jockey at the Andover High School radio sta- tion. Births AUG. 27 — Linda (Silverman) and Aaron Rosberg of West Bloomfield are thrilled to announce the birth of their daughter, Emily Brooke (Yehudit Bat- Sheva). Sharing in their joy are grand- parents Nancy and Raymond Silverman of West Bloomfield, Francine and Louis Rosberg of Southfield, and g...…
…On Campus EVENTS from page 51 N weekly meeting 7:30 p.m. Tuesday, Sept. 16, at Hillel. American Movement for Israel (AMI), U-M's mainstream pro-Israel organization, mass meeting will be 7 p.m. Wednesday, Sept. 17, at Hillel. Reform Chavurah will meet 6- 7:15 p.m. Wednesday, Sept. 17. Rabbi Rich Kirschen will lead the discussion. VIA Hillel, a community service group linking U-M students with the local community through volunteer activities...…
…■ NEED EXTRA MILES? Call Us For A Custom Quote! A A. learning conversational Hebrew. The fall session lasts for 10 weeks with classes meeting in various homes throughout the area. To register or for fee information, call Dorit Edut, (248) 543-4255. 1998 JEEP CHEROKEE SPORT 4 DOOR 4X4 Pre-Holiday Classes Set "Eilu v' Eilu," the adult Jewish learn- ing project which was launched a year ago by Congregation B'nai Moshe and Congregation Beth...…
…<N T W E R P JEWELER S Community TRADITION THAT STANDS THE TEST OF TIME. MICHAEL A. JONAS PHOTOGRAPHY Certified Professional Photographer Specializing in Weddings Bar/Bat Mitzvahs And Fine Celebrations BY APPOINTMENT ONLY BIRMINGHAM, MICHIGAN (248) 647-5060 "The Difference IS The Difference" tiCed /7 294 hina & Gifts fine china, crystal stemware, and silverware patterns—the largest in- stock dealer in the USA. • 2,000 Tradition ...…
…1998 JEEP CHEROKEE SPORT 4X4 Feldman and Adel Kozadayev with folk and classical music in Yiddish, Hebrew and Russian. A petite brunch will be served. There is a nominal charge. )- No Hidden Costs • Just Add Tax Senior Events At The JPM • $1,295*Due at Lease Inception STK# X-J055 • • • • Jill Walker from Catholic Social Services of Oakland County will pre- sent "It's Simple But it isn't Easy," 1 p.m. Monday, Sept. 15, at the Jimmy Prent...…
…Community Machon Plans Fall Classes Nominated as officers are: Robert H. Naftaly, president; Peter M. Alter, Penny B. Blumenstein, Doreen Hermelin, Lawrence S. Jackier, Diane Klein and Jerome L. Schostak, vice presidents; Allan Nachman, treasurer; Linda Z. Klein, secretary; and Robert P. Aronson, executive secretary. Nominated for a two-year term are: Irwin Alterman, Pearlena Bodzin, Marvin I. Danto, Dr. Mark L. Diem, Phillip Wm. Fisher, Jer...…
…America's Largest Public Beauty Show! THIS WEEKEND! Saturday, Sept. 13 • 10 am - 9 pm & Sunday, Sept. 14 • 10 am - 6 pm Novi Expo Center 1-96 & Novi Road (exit 162) SCHEDULE OF EVENTS Saturday, September 13 93eautsf93as Show Opens Star Nail Products 10:00 am I I:00 am Eugenia's Main Stage Presentations Oakland Mall Fashion Show WKQI and Soap Stars Fashion Formulas by Ecoly I I :30 am 12:00 pm C 1:35 pm 2:10 pm a celebration of be...…
…Community Lingerie Clearance Sale Selected Robes & Gowns 50-75% OFF All Gottex Bathing Suits 40% OFF • * < by what you wear at your wedding All Bali & Warners Bras ; • 25% OFF $ 4 is more important than the first night: < Lilyette Panties r. You only get married once. pr All styles, colors, sizes • • • • 4 • • • • • $ • • ; • • * • #* - - • • •••• $ AT:kJ 4)0 2. 'The lights are on at the wedding. (...…
…WHEN ONLY THE BEST WILL DO... SAVE ON OVER 8,000 BRAND NAME ITEMS! Under New Ownership Alan H. Sternfeld INVITATIONS FALL FURNITURE & BEDDINGSALE! Petwitie oto sw-44 4444044 FINE 80)\ • Unique Custom Designs • • Wedding Invitations • • Bar/Bat Mitzvah Invitations • • Party Invitations • Full Service: Accessories, • Calligraphy, Gifts, Skull Caps • • Hebrew Calligraphy • • Hand Holding & Smiles • LEXINGTON FURNITURE, SPRINGTIME POOH AND...…
…Buis Chabad Torah Center 5595 West Maple Road - West Bloomfield, MI 855-6170 Synagogues Fall/ Winter Class Schedule SuNdAys: 10:00 am Torah Portion of the Week 11:00 am Intermediate/Advanced Tanya ORTHODOX AGUDAS YISROEL- MOGEN ABRAHAM MoNdAys: 8:15 pm Torah Portion of the Week 15751 W. Lincoln, Southfield, 48075, (248) 552-1971. Rabbis: Dov Loketch, Asher Eisenberger. Tu EsdAys: 10:00 am Jewish holidays 12:30 pm Lunch - N-Learn (Oak...…
…All our Children are taught of the Eternal, great shall be the peace of our Children. Services: daily 7 a.m.; Saturday 9 a.m. SHAAREY SHOMAYIM 15110 W. 10 Mile Road, Oak Park, 48237, (248) 542-4444. Rabbi: Leo Goldman. Gabbai: Michael Weiss. Services: Friday at candlelighting; Saturday 9 a.m.; weekdays 6:45 a.m.; Sunday 7:50 a.m.; daily Minchah- Ma'ariv at sunset. Daf hayomi at the rabbi's residence every Saturday after- noon. Class for Rus...…
…Synagogues Manufacturers of Classic Handbags STYLE YOU'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR... AT A You WON'T BELIEVE. THE BETH ISRAEL CONGREGATION 2000 Washtenaw Ave., Ann Arbor, 48104, (313) 665-9897: Rabbi: Robert Dobrusin. Services: Friday 6 p.m.; Saturday 9:30 a.m.; weekdays 7:30 p.m.; Sunday 5 p.m. Please join the congrega- tion for kiddush following services. BETH SHALOM 14601 W. Lincoln Road, Oak Park, 48237, (248) 547-7970. Rabbi: David A. Nels...…
…Rabbis: M. Robert Syme, Harold S. Loss, Paul M. Yedwab, Joshua Bennett. Cantor: Harold Orbach. Services: Friday 8 p.m.; Saturday Rabbi's Tish 9:30 a.m., services 10:30 a.m.; weekdays 7:30 a.m.; Sunday 9 a.m. Friday b'nai mitzvah of David A. Zeitlin, son of Lisa and Barry Zeitlin; Michael D. Goode, son of Barbara and Dave Goode. Baby naming of Samantha Belle Sherman, daughter of Robbie and Scott Sherman. Wedding blessing of Lisa Papenheim and B...…
…BBYO/JCC TEEN CONNECTION (7TH AND 8TH GRADE) Laws Of The Land: Private And Public IDAUTY Saturday, September 20, at the West Bloomfield JCC from 8:30 - 11:00 p.m. Pli► es 0101 01k1 CONTESTS d FREE FOR TEEN CONNECTION MEMBERS r $ 5 for Non-members Featuring music by Joe Cornell Questions?? call BBYO: 248-788-0700 JERRY FENBY HOT ICE TEEN ANGELS THE CONTOURS SIMONE VITALE QUIET STORM PERSUASION SUN MESSENGERS SUNSET BOULEVARD TIM ...…
…Here's To MICHIGAN'S #1 LEXUS DEALER IS HAVING A YEAR-END CLEARANCE Now through Sept. 30 *Free Pick Up and Delivery •Free Lexus Loan Cars ion LS goo 1991 ES 300 Sheldon A. Goldman SHELDON A. GOLDMAN has been named chairman of the Sheldon L. Miller Tribute Committee and will be the recipient of the Zionist Organization of America's Justice Louis D. Brandeis award at ZOA's 64th annual Balfour Celebration concert. DAVYA DOHEN, is a final...…
…Left: Matt Pearl and Alyssa Gold take a quiet breather from the swings. Opposite page: Elana Kaminer plays on her family's computer. Below: Matt and Alyssa go "higher and higher" C PHIL JACOBS Editor GLENN TREIST Photographer att Pearl is pushing a child on a swing in her Novi backyard. Her high squeals of delight demand that she go higher and higher. It's a late summer after- noon. Traffic jams along nearby 1-96, but Alyssa Gold, 6 1/2,...…
…How a group of teens provides respite to parents of special needs children. a week, the teens play with the special needs children, and with their siblings. It's a way to give parents a break, whether to go grocery shopping or just time to look in the eyes of a spouse. It's time, free time. In about two years, the Daniel Sobel Friendship Circle volunteers have grown from a handful of teens. They are still growing. The organiza- tion also incl...…
…L "This is a circle," said Rabbi Levi Shemtov. "It brings together Torah, the Jewish people and God. If you don't care, then something is really missing from your life." "There is not enough in the Jewish community for our families, there is next to nothing," said Carolyn Morris, the mother of 5 1/2-year-old Sammy. When she and her husband, Michael, learned their son was autis- tic, Carolyn spent a month on the phone searching for services a...…
…=my was • e wor idl I were th ro ocean, trea sadness, fe The ocean's and we stre Water to reach for elp. We went to our synagogue nursery school and were turned away — huge tidal wave hit us. To the JCC nursery school, and we were turned away again. To the Jewish Information Service, which told us that not one single Jewish disabled children's charity existed in Detroit. Another wave. To the Jewish Family Service where we were told that it is ...…
