…JNF to Have Office Building on Lot Sholem Aleichem School 30th Year Donated by Aaron Rosenberg Family To The Begin Sholem Aleichem School of Detroit will celebrate its 30th anniversary when the 1955-56 school year begins next month. Under Moishe Haar, its prin- cipal, the school is planning to enlarge its facilities and add more classrooms to better serve the new suburban areas, particularly Oak Park. Arrangements for transporta- tion for all...…
…SYNAGOGUE SERVICES CONG. BNAI MOSHE: Sabbath services at 7 p.m., today; at 9 a.m., Saturday. The Bar Mitzvahs of Morris Weiss and Steven Liebers will be observed. CONG. GEMILUTH CHASSODIM: Sabbath services at 7:25 p.m., today; at 9 a.m., Saturday. The Bar Mitzvah of John Grunberg will be observed. TEMPLE BETH EL: Sabbath services at 11:15 a.m., Saturday. The Bar Mitzvah of Joel Isaac Greenberg will be observed. CONG. SHAAREY ZEDEK: Sabbath s...…
…Israeli-Egyptian Talks Hit New Roadblock: Progress in Jordanian Talks: Hammarskjold Report Calls for 'More Lasting Settlement' Direct JTA Teletype Wire to The Jewish News JERUSALEM — Israel-Egyp- tian talks on reducing tension along the Gaza border virtually hit a roadblock Tuesday, with the Egyptians rejecting Israel- United Nations proposals on several key questions. However, thorny questions were referred back to the respective govern- me...…
…U. S. Press Criticizes Navy Department To Commission Maritime Graduate Landy .- NEW YORK (JTA)—The Navy from all parts of the country re- Department's refusal to _commis- gardless of political differences sion Eugene Landy, the 21-year- among them. old Jewish youth who graduated The Navy Department refused Friday from the Merchant Marine Mr. Landy the commission on the Academy at Kings , Point, Long grounds that his mother had been Island, w...…
…Lois Tachna Engaged Hebrew Benevolent Epstein-DrikeriVuptiai To Wed Albert Resnick Society to Honor Scheduled for December Martyrs' Memory Israeli Official Quits Post . For Rabbinate in Germany MUNICH, (JTA)— Rabbi Ad- oniyahu Kraus, an official of the Ministry for Religion in Jerusa- lem, has been named rabbi of the Jewish community of Regensburg and several nearby communities near here. Coming Soon In OAK PARK! IRV Another The first ...…
…ctivities in Society After Aug. 15, Mr. and Mrs. Harry M. Shulman, of Webb Ave. will be domiciled at 2641 Woodstock. Miss Shirley Elkowitz, of 16211 Ilene, is vacationing at Scaroon Manor, on Schroon Lake, N. Y. The following Detroiters visited Oakton Man'or, located on the -shores of Lake Pewaukee, Wisconsin: Mrs. B. Somlyo and Miss G. Somlyo, 17312 Stoepel, and Mr. and Mrs. Saul Rosner, 3000 Rochester. Geraldine Feingold, daughter of Mr....…
…"Education is that which ree Mothers' Club Picnic The Council of Mothers Clubs mains after one has forgotten everything one has learned in U of 11 Students Plan Wedding in September ctivities in Society of the Jewish Community Center school."—Einstein. will hold a picnic at Rouge Park next Wednesday at 12 noon. The For the Perfect Affair! group will meet at the Brennan swimming pools. Members may i reach the park by means of the Plymouth-Th...…
…Elaine Elbling Wed Reform Deny To Kenneth M. Schott Report of Israel Congregation MRS. KENNETH SCHOTT -In a candlelight ceremony per- .. formed Aug. 7, in the Sheraton- Cadillac Hotel, Elaine Elbling, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Jacob Elbling, of Greenlawn Ave., was united in marriage to Kenneth Murray Schott, son of Mr. and Mrs. Alex Schott, of Windsor, Ont. Rabbi Jacob M. Chinitz officiated. The bride's gown was of white, imported chantilly ...…
…▪ Miss Kozenn Back from European Miss Chalnid to TVed Mrs. Michaels to Run Elkin's Suburban Office Wayne Law Graduate With the trend today toward Tonr; Plans Return in Spring of '56 suburban living, the Elkin Hotel and Travel . Bureau has opened an office at 296 N. Hunter, in Birmingham, just a block north of Maple Rd. Manager of the new subur- ban office wil' be Delphinc Finn Michaels who for 17 year. 41111WW:.:114W:. ----•••••••'- has been...…
…• to ‘,:vertisers Ad Warning It has come to the attention of The Jewish News that certain local advertising newspapers are soliciting ads for a Jewish New Year's Greeting Edition. These newspapers have sent out solicitations with attached copies of ads clipped from last year's Jewish News New Year's Edition. The Jewish News has no connection whatsoever with these soliciting newspapers and does not condone such action. Advertisers are warned n...…
…17-HOUSES FOR SALE 17-POUSES FOR SALE CLASSIFIED ADVERTISEMENTS Liners accepted from responsible firms or individuals by telephone up to 11 a.m., Wednesday. Deadline for dis- play classified ads is 4:30 p.m., Tuesday. Rates 10c a word, minimum charge $1.00, or $2.80 per column inch. (ALL VErmont 8-9364 13 10-ROOMS FOR RENT - FOR RENT-FLATS-INCOMES- APARTMENTS ROOM FOR RENT, reasonable, re- fined person, 20400 Sorrento. BEAUTIFUL 3-ro...…
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…t7—HOUSES FOR SALE 17—HOUSES FOR SALE 15855 KENTUCKY Nr. 7 Mile Rd. By Owner Open Sun. 1-5. 5-rm. brk. bung., glass enclosed knotty pine rear terr., carpets, drapes, gas ht., S&S, landscaped. Excellent shopping and trans. $15,- 500. UN 4-8477, No Brokers. 17—HOUSES FOR SALE Attention Huntington Woods Colonial Buyers 3 and 4 bedrms. with 2 1 /2 baths and Activities Room. OAK PARK SPECIAL RENSSELAER, 24247 For more information call A. 6...…
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…Alb ' Camp Tamarack to Dedicate Series Of Gifts at Ceremonies on Aug. 24 Rabbis Can Joke BY DAVID SCHWARTZ Bible Tales for Small Fry (Copyright, 1955, Jewish Telegraphic Agency, Inc.) Heine said 15 minutes of "laugh- ter daily should be part of one's religious devotions. According to the Talmud, Elijah was once asked who was sure of going to Heaven and he pointed to a comedian. For lightening the hearts of people, he was entitled to it. ...…
…Aid for the Retarded: A Major U.S. Responsibility A Tribute to Wayne County Training School and to Dr. R. H. Haskell Commentary, Page 2 A EWISH NE Weekly Review Rebuke to Bigots: Effective Action By Mich. Catholic Challenge to Politicians to Act Against Arming Arab States of Jewish Events Michigan's Only English-Jewish Newspaper—Incorporating The Detroit Jewish Chronicle VOLUME 26—No. 10 akc7 17100 W. 7 Mile Rd.—VE. 8-9364—Detroit 3...…
…Gus D. Newman Elected to Head Jewish Home for Aged Program Elected at last Sunday's meeting of the Jewish Home for Aged are the following community leaders who will plan activities at the Home: seated, from the left, ARTHUR A. FLEISCHMAN, secretary; GUS D. NEWMAN, president; SIDNEY J. ALLEN, first vice-president and executive committee chairman; and FRANK A. WETSMAN, second vice-president; standing are MAX J. KOGAN, treasurer; and IRA I. SONN...…
…Dulles Tells Arabs Ambassador Lawson W.11 Present Credentials in Jerusalem WASHINGTON, (JTAl—Secre- tary of State John Foster Dulles informed an Arab League dele- gation that the American Am- bassador to Israel will present his credentials in Jerusalem • but that this fact "implies no change in our attitude regarding Jerus- alem nor does it imply any change in the location of the United. States Embassy in Israel, which is in Tel Aviv." The am...…
…Illy Muscles are Really Tuned for Israel THE JEWISH NEWS Incorporating the Detroit Jewish Chronicle commencing with isstee of July 20, 1951 Member American Association of English-Jewish Newspapers, Michigan Press Association. Published every Friday by The Jewish News Publishing Co , 17100 West Seven Mile . Road, Detroit 35, Mich., VE. 8-9364 Subscription $4 a year, Foreign $5. Entered as second class matter Aug. 6, 1942, at Yost Office, Det...…
…Book Fair Contest Deadlines Extended; Renew Call for Volunteers for Dec. 4-6 Plans are progressing for the Dec. 4; children's events, Sun- day afternoon, Dec. 5; Yiddish observance of Annual Book Fair, set for Dec. 4, 5 and 6, at the and Hebrew night, Sunday, Dec. 5; women's day, Monday, Davison Jewish Center. Dec. 6; youth night, Monday, Book Fair is the major event Dec. 6. marking the observance of An- Featuring the Yiddish and nual Book Mo...…
…• 'Zionists Dance to Support Israel At Annual Balfour Ball Saturday 6--DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Senators Kefauver, Bridges of Testimonial for May Eshkol, McDaniel Attend UJA Pa rl ey In N.Y., Dec. 10-12 American policy toward Israel and the Middle East will be the theme of major addresses by Senator Estes Kefauver of Ten- nessee, Democratic leader, and Senator Styles Bridges of New Hampshire, Republican leader, Friday, November 12, 1954 Detr...…
…`Go Go Go' Is Rah Rah Theme of Goodfellow Clash , , "Go, go, go for a good cause" has been adopted as the theme of • this year's annual Detroit High School Championship Foot- ball Game, it was announced this week by Walter 0. (Spike) Briggs, chairman of the Old Newsboys Good f el lows spurts. committee. „ ets may be purchased from any DETROIT J '7.1-1 NEWS-7 policeman or by phoning WO. Friday, November 12, 1954 Annually the biggest sports ...…
…son, editor; Harry Bodzin, fi- nance; Alan Nathan, darlings; Morris Direnfeld, memoriams; Moe Tack, arbitration; Jack Ke- tai, arrangements; Bernard Goodman, publicity; David Gantz, secretary; Julius Passer- man, delegate-at-large; and Sam Finegood, George Karabe- nick, Alvin Solomon and Sey- mour Weisman, co-chairman. On the steering committee are Mesdames Charles Solovich, Leonard Sims, Gerald Goldberg, Robert Coggan, Samuel. Gutter- man, Ja...…
…Synagogues to Observe Tercentenary Sabbath Jacob Shatzky to Address Yiddish Meeting Dec. 19 Rabbis and lay leaders in all This Yiddish program will of Detroit's congregations report be featured by an address by that plans are being made for Prof. Jacob Shatzky, noted the observance of the Tercen- author and lecturer. tenary Sabbath, to mark the Scheduled for the first night American Jewish Tercentenary. of Hanukah, the evening also Tercenten...…
…10—DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Mrs. Joseph Newman Friday, November 12, 1954 Detroiter Attends Theological School Solomon Spiro, son of Rev. and Mrs. Joshua Spiro, of 7328 Thatcher, Detroit, has been en- rolled in the freshman class of the Rabbinical School of the Jewish Theological Seminary of America, New York City, it was announced by Rabbi Marvin S. Wiener, registrar. Mr. Spiro, born in Moncton, New Brunswick, Canada, was graduated from the Detro...…
…To Wed in anuag Bar Mitzvahs Orthodox Armed Forces Unit Honors Chaplain The Bar Mitzvah of Irving Cold, son of Mrs. Dora Gold, of 3221 Webb, and the late Mr. Hy- man Gold, will be observed on Nov. 20, at Yeshivah Beth Ye-. hudah Synagogue. * Mr. and Mrs. Saul Rubin, of 18687 Northlawn, announce the Bar Mitzvah of their son, George Irwin, on Saturday, November 13, 11:15 a.m. at Temple Beth El. A reception in George's honor will be held from ...…
…• Dr. Hirsh Helps Mobilize Forces Here for Hadassah Medical School a Sachar. to Address Brandeis Associates Dinner Here Nov. 30 112—DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Friday, November 12, 1954 JWV Activities In a question and answer • DRAPES • Detroit Chapter of Brandeis Pfc. JOSEPH L. BALE POST period, Dr. Hirsh, analyzed, by cdm- University Associates will spon- , and AUXILIARY have CURTAINS • quoting figures, Hadassah's new pleted arrangements for ...…
…omen 3 eitth Activitiei 1 BRANDEIS CHAPTER, Pioneer August ; 18650 Woodingham. A Women, will meet Monday eve- , program of games and prizes ning, at the home of Mrs. Milton I will follow. Friday, November 12, 1954 • DETROIT JEWISH NEWS-12 ISRAEL CHAPTER, . Pioneer HOOD. at its board meeting a t • - raising affair. Paid-up members Women, will meet at 1 p.m., Nov. the home of Ters. Gilbert Aver - and their male guests are invit- .26, at the...…
…• Backfire-Schlachter Wedding on Dec. 26 rTales Out of School By Rena Katz Joni Handleman Slumlord Central High At Assembly of CiFWF The second annual William J. Shroder Memorial Awards will be announced at the 23rd Gen- eral Assembly of the Council of Jewish Federations and Welfare Funds in Atlantic City, Nov. 18- 21. The presentation will be made during the closing session on Sunday, Nov. 21. William Rosenwald, of New Y o r k, is ch...…
…...Coady Virginia A. Polasky ITo Wed Howard Koss Mrs. Lawrence W. Crohn has returned from Israel where she visited with her •thildren, Mr. and Mrs. David Crohn. Mr. and Mrs. Jack Maltz, of Oak Park, Mich., recently gave a surprise dinner and 30th anniversary party for their parents, Mr. and Mrs. Phillip Fagan and Mr. and Mrs. George Maltz. Guests included friends and relatives from Bay City and Detroit. Mr. and Mrs Joe Ellis and family, form...…
…To Wed in April News Brevities MISS PHYLLIS NEDELMAN Mr. and Mrs.. David Nedelman, of Sorrento Avenue, announce the engagement of their daugh- ter, Phyllis, to Lawrence J. Spec- tor, son of Mr. David Spector, of Ohio Avenue. An April wedding is planned. Film on Freedom of Press Available to Organizations BODZIN FAMILY CLUB in- stalled its new officers at its last meeting. President-elect Milton Duchan appointed the following committees: E...…
…Ativi/lei in Society Miss Brooks to Wed Martin Kobylanski Mr. and Mrs. Aaron B. Cohen, of 24036 Berkley, Oak Park, Mich., celebrated their seventeenth wedding anniversary last Sat- urday night at a surprise party in their home. Among the guests were the A. Berlins, Sam Markels and sons, Irving aand Sidney and the Herman Katzes. Delegates from the Sisterhood of Adas Shalom Synagogue who will attend the biennial convention of the National Wom-...…
…Joan Steinberg to Wed New Yorker March 6 M a rriagei JEWISH NEWS Hebrew School Students 18—DETROIT Friday, November 12, 1954 To Be Heard on WXYZ One of the highlights of the 28th annual Education Month, observed by the United Hebrew Schools, will be a radio program presented by students of the Schools' Adas Shalom Branch at 11 aim, Sunday, over station WXYZ. A playlet written and directed by Julius Schwartz, music direc- tor of UHS, will be...…
…Zedakah Club Slates Annual Donor Blue Book Seminars Lunchon Nov. 30, at Sheraton Cadillac Set By Women of JWF Preparing last-minute details for the annual donor luncheon of the Zedakah Club are, left to right, Mesdames SAMUEL WEX- - LER, president; HENRY LEVETT and JACK GREENBERG, donor chairmen. Zedakah is interpreted as include a fashion show by a meaning charity. ' local department store, music by Since the prithe intent of a Iry Field's O...…
…• •••••••••• ■ The Suburban Community-1 • • 0-W Young Israel tro Hold Late Service The . Young Israel Center of Oak-Woods, Coolidge and Allan Rd., invites all residents of the area to attend the first of its late Friday services at 8:30 p.m., today. An oneg shabbat to follow will feature community s i n g i n g, states Morris Novetsky, presi- dent. Rabbi Yaakov I. Homnick will preach on "The Pyramid of Judaism," an exposition of the basic p...…
…DETROIT JEWISH NEWS-21 Friday, November 12, 1954 U.S. Jewish Delegation Confers with JDC Leaders and Israeli Officials Refugee Scientist Wins Nobel Prize PARIS (JTA)—The ninth an- , nual conference of Joint Distri- STOCKHOLM, (JTA) — The bution Committee country direc- Swedish Academy of Science tors concluded here after five named Prof. Max Born as a joint days of activity during which recipient of the Nobel Prize in the directors and thei...…
…Father a Bond Trustee Make 22--DETROIT JEWISH N 19E54WS Friday, November 1Z, Earlier Thanksgiving Deadline Forms for our issue of Nov. 26 will close a day earlier than usual, on account of Thanksgiving. Deadline for all copy for that issue will be at noon on Tenth Anniversary Friday, Nov. 19. —__— deadline for the Nov. 26 issue will be at 11. Hashofar Society for Advance- a.m. Classified. Tuesday, Nov. 23. ment of Jewish Music will cele- ...…
…Dantrty Raskin's Egyptian's Collapse Halts UN Debate JWF Mystery Bus Tour Set for Next Thursday DETROIT JEV.ISI-1 NEWS-23 Friday, November 12,1954 Thursday a group of Jewish City of flop , J f.cr Hionor I UNITED NATIONS, N.Y., ed suddenly and dramatically women will spend a relaxed and John &tilos on 80, th Birthday (JTA)--Security Council consid- before it could take formal ac- educational day on the Mystery eration of Israel's • complain...…
…13-FOR RENT-FLATS-INCOMES- APARTMENTS CLASSIFIED ADVERTISEMENTS Liners accepted from responsible firms or individuals by telephone up to 11 a.m., Wednesday. Deadline for dis- play classified ads is 4:30 p.m., Tuesday. Rates 10c a word, minimum charge $1.00, or $2.80 per column inch. CALL VErmont 8-9364 24-DETROIT JEWISH NEWS 16-HOUSES FOR RENT 5 ROOM furnished flat for winter. Gas heat. Middle aged couple only. TO. 8-5882. DEXTER-Elmhur...…
…- 17-HOUSES FOR SALE 17-HOUSES FOR SALE 2 BEDROOM duplex. Meyers Road. Mac- Dowell School district. Available De- cember 1st. Must have children. UN. I 2-4708. ' TUXEDO-PETOSKEY. Beautiful 5 room bungalow, 3 years old. gas heat. S2,000 down. Jacobson. TE. 4-4646. WISCONSIN near 7 Mile Road. Bunga- low with many features. Large bed- - 1'00M and lavatory upstairs. 2 bed- rooms and bath clown. Knotty pine recreation room. Garage. Priced righ...…
…17 - 17-HOUSES FOR SALE HOUSES FOR SALE OAK PARK OPEN SUN. Church St. 21750, 3 blocks S. 9 Mile Rd. New large 3-bedroom ranch homes, wide overhang; face brick; large bath, wet vanity, plaster; breakfast nooks, seat 10; paved st. $800 Dn. to Vets RAND & TAIPALE BLDRS. BR. 3-2162 15651 W. McNichols Rd. 18653 WOODINGHAM OPEN SUN. 2-5 Beautiful face brick Eng. style, 3 bedrm., all large rooms, gas ht., side drive, garage. Immediate poss. ...…
…DETROIT JEWISH NEWS-27 Bonn Scored for Reparation Failure BONN, (JTA) — Dissatisfac- tion with slow progress in the legislative implementation and practical application of the 15- month-old Federal Indemnifica- tion Law for individual Nazi vic- tims has reached a new pitch of intensity here. In an unexpected flare-up on the floor of the Bundesta g, spokesmen for the two major parties of the Adenauer coalition criticized the Ministry of Fin- ...…
…JNF Conference Mobilizes Youth, Establishes Detroit Comnuttees for Bequests & Insurance Histadrut Busy with Multitude Of Pre-Campaign Activities Nathan Shecter, chairman of include Sara and Chaim Fersh- second yahrzeit, conducted by the Detroit Histadrut Cam- ko, a husband and wife musical Cantor Judah Goldring, accom- paign's furniture division, this team recently arrived here from week announced that arrange- Israel. panied by Mrs. Goldrin...…
…Purim's Lesson!' 'The Ungodly Are Like Thorns THE JEWISH NEWS A Weekly Review In the Flesh' Editorial, Page 4 /OL. 25, No. 1 of Jewish Events 17100 W. 7 Mile Rd.—VE. 8-9364—Detroit 35, March 12, 1954 As a Volunteer Worker in the 1954 Allied Michigan's Only English-Jewish Newspaper—Incorporating The Detroit Jewish Chronicle ceS 31. , Enroll NOW Jewish Campaign $4.00 Per Year; Single Copy, 15c Eisenhower Rep • rt Stresses Aid T...…
…Purely Commentary Metropolitan Division Selects Chairmen; Will Direct AJC All-Out Days Between You and Me (Copyright, 1954, Jewish Telegraphic Agency) By BORIS SMOLAR Mrs. Samuel A. Green and Mil- ton Lucow will once again head Mission to Israel Israers Plea for 'Revitalized Zionist Movement` the Metropolitan Division of the What is really the situation in Israel? . . I am being asked Eliezer Livneh, member of Israel's Knesset, in a Jerusa...…
…U.S., Israel Formalize 10-Year Most Favored Nation Agreement Josephthal, Shazar Here To Spark UJA Campaign WASHINGTON, (JTA) — The , International Co n f e r e n c e on instruments of ratification of Civil Aviation which closed the Treaty of Friendship, Com- i March 4 in Paris. During the coerce and Navigation between ' discussions, a number of dele- Israel and the United States I gations underlined Israel's spe- were exchanged between the c...…
…THE JEWISH NEWS bicoriserating the Detroit Jewish Chronicle commencing with issue of Aar 20. 2931 American, Jewish Tercentenary Member American Association of English-Jewish Newspagns, Michigan Press Association. Published every Friday by The Jewish News Publishing Co., 17100 West Seven Mile Road, Detroit 3&. Rich:.. VL. 114811/6 Siiihneription 64. a year. foreign. SS. Entered as second class matter Aug. 6. 1942, at Post Office. Detroit, M...…
…Center 'Family Day' Program Offers Exercise and Fun for Morn, Dad, Baby WILLIAM WEISS and his four - year - old son, FREDDIE, pause in their art work to ad- mire a house just completed by another son, seven - year-old SAMMY. A 1 1 three are parti- cipants in the family day pro- gram, which takes place three Sundays a month at the Woodward JeW- ish Center. Parents join their children in swimming, skating, movies, ce- program of planned fun and...…
…Plan International Bond Conference 6—DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Friday, March 12, 1954 1)r. Hantke, Keren Hayesod Head, 80 Plans for the first international conference to provide eco- nomic aid for Israel were drawn at a meeting of the executive committee of the Israel Bond Organization. Among those who took part in the program to expand the scope of the Israel bond drive were (left to right) SAMUEL ROTHBERG, a member of the board of governors and...…
