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…HE JEWISH NEws Detroit's All ied Jewish Campaign Supports the UJA Causes A Weekly Review of Jewish Events Reserve May 15 For Israel Independence Day Celebration at Fair Grounds Coliseum VOLUME 15—NO. 7 2114 Penobscot Bldg.—Phone WO. 5-1155 Detroit 26, Michigan, April 29, 1949 Israel's Peace Policy Reaffirmed <4.74. 7 $ 3.00 Per Year; Single Copy, 10c ' Dr. Weizmann Reassures Vatican; Evatt for Speedy Welcome by UN By PHILIP SLO...…

…Allied Drive; all Swing Start Dexier Cel‘ier .D ettzso-Lt Vol. 51, No. 14 liArICLE .4174., 27 Friday, April 29, 1949 OA Chiefs Give 10c a Copy — $3 Pet Year acking to Frisch 40 Percent iShertok Scans of Drive's Soviet Curb Michigan Quota In on Zionism Awaits Candidate TEI, AVIV—tSpecial) — Moshe Sharett, foreign minister of Is- The 1949 Allied Jewish Cam- racl, declared here that Israel paign is in full blast following was "greatly d...…

…Purely Commentary Morgenthau, Gilman Stress Urgency Of Israel's Needs As AJC Opens By PHILIP SLOMOVITZ Recollections of Stephen S. Wise There is not a community in the world that does not know <./‘.ppeal, brought an enthusiastic the name Stephen S. Wise. " Most of them knew him personally. response to his sincere appeal. In a busy lifetime, during which he gave what appeared to be In- $310,000 was raised in pledges exhaustible energies to a...…

…I DETROIT JEWISH CHRONICLE Page Two Friday, April 29, 1941 Thousands Pay Tribute to Dr. Wise at Rites All Jewry Pays Honor at His Bier NEW YORK— (WNS) —More than 2,000 persons, including gov- ernment and Israeli representa- tives and hundreds of others who could not gain admission, paid final tribute to Dr. Stephen S. Wise at the funeral service at Carnegie Hall. Though admission was only by tickets distributed by the Free Synagogues, hu...…

…Weizmann Feted by Truman at State Function in Washington Direct JTA Teletype Wire to the . thanks of Israel for , the The Jewish News "great debt which we owe" the WASHINGTON — Presi- United States. -Replying to a dent Truman Monday tendered a luncheon to Israel's President Weizmann. The affair was a state function. President Tru- man paid high tribute to the Is- raeli Chief of State, referring to him as "a great leader and one of the world'...…

…Friday, April 29, 1949 DETROIT JEWISH CHRONICLE STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL Page Three German Exhibit in N. Y. Speeds RE -Nazificatio . n By PHINEAS J. BIRON THE GERMAN Industrial Fair in New York under auspices of the American Military Government provided official evidence of Gen. Clay's RE-Nazi- fication policy. The daily press tried to present the fair as goodwill promotion for friendly relations between the peoples of Germany and the Un...…

…As the Editor View-s the News ... Shalom, Mr. President Report of Michigan By DAVID SCHWARTZ (Copyright, 1999, Jewish Telegraphic Agency, Inc.) Yom Atzmauth Next Wednesday, May 4—the fifth of iyar on the Hebrew calendar—will mark the first anniversary of the establishment of the State of Israel. It is a great day on our calendar, and wherever there are Jews there will be re- joicing that the end has come to homeless- ness and that our pe...…

…DETROIT JEWISH CHRONICLE Page Four Detroit Jewish Chronicle Published by the Jewish Chronicle Publishing Co., Inc. 2827 Bal lurn Tower, Detroit 26, Michigan Friday, April 29, 1941 his Torch Flames On WOodward 1-1040 SUBSCRIPTION: $3.00 Per Year, 5ingle Copies, 10c; Foreign, $3.00 Per Yeat Entered as Second-clan usenet March 3. 1916, at the Poet Office at Detroit, Mich., under the Act of March 3, 1879 SEYMOUR TILCHIN, President Friday,...…

…Halevy Music Center Cornerstone Laying Ceremonies Set for May $ THE JEWISH NEWS-5 Friday, April 29, 1949 Bnai Brith Women • Aid Cancer Drive Pharmacy Auxiliary Plans Dinner May 2 The Ladies Auxiliary of Alpha Zeta Omega (Pharmaceutical Fraternity), Omicron Chapter, will hold its annual mothers' and daughters' dinner at the Mayfair Room May. 2. Heading the program for the evening will be_ the installation ARCHITECT'S ?LAN F OR HALEVY BUILDI...…

…Friday, April 29, 1949 '. WOMEN'S CLUBS DETROIT JEWISH CHRONICLE Aid Cancer _Drive - - - Dr. Editha Sterba, pioneer in the field of child psychology, will speak on "Problems of Dis- cipline" at 8:30 p.m. Tuesday at the Downtown branch. Y.W.C.A., Park at Withered. Dr. Sterba will appear under the auspices of the P.T.A. of the City and Country school. The public is in- vited. [ Events , of the Week Infants Group Charts Dance . The Infan...…

…6—THE JEWISH NEWS Friday, April 29, 1949 The Young Adult Community Volunteer Corps Prepared Junior Kits for Solicitors Israel Youths Install Officers Chapter One, ZOD, Will Give Program to Buy National Fund Trees Veterans Sponsor Protest Rally on use Koch Release Students to View Human Relations Harold F. Moran, department commander of the Jewish War The problem of discrimination Veterans of Michigan announces be faced by college studen...…

…Page Six Bnai Brith Highlights Friday, April 29, 1949 DETROIT JEWISH CHRONICLE Campaign Leaders 'for "The Day 0 0 Brandeis Chapter A skit prepared by the dramatic group will highlight the Mother's Day banquet set by the Louis D. Brandeis Chapter fur May 4 at the Mayfair Room. For informa- tion, call Mrs. ESter Sherr, WE. 5- 4151, or Mrs. Jean Howell, WE. 5- 1000. . • • • Keidan Lodge Harry B. Keidan Lodge will meet Tuesday evening, M...…

…• FTrrdaEyj, EAW pri l-219,N1219VS-7 Ben F. Goldman, Bnai Brith Leader Samuel Heyman, Noted Engineer, To Observe 60th Birthday May 1 Service Bureau Zionist Leader, Dies, Aged 52 Samuel Noah Heyman, for many years one of Detroit's most active Zionists, • a nation- ally prominent engineer who rose to a high position in the General Motors Corporation,' in the Fisher Body Division, died Saturday morning, April 23, at his home, 4031 Glendale, aft...…

…Friday, April 29, 1919 DETROIT JEWISH CHRONICLE Million Jews in Arab World Page Sere. Orthodox Jewry to Memorialize Bar-Ilan in Day of Mourning Chajes Hatikvah Set for Carnegie Julius Chajes, music director of In the oriental cities and prim- the Center, has been commis- NEW YORK — A nationwide Rive hill villages of Africa's day of mourning in memory of president of the Rabbi Isaac sioned to harmonize and orches- northern coast and the A...…

…Complete 50 Years of Marriage MR. AND MRS. MORRIS FIREMAN . The golden spot in a long end happy marriage was reached April 30, when Mr. and Mrs. Morris Fireman of 1945 W. Phila- delphia celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary. Family and friends honored Mr. and Mrs. ,Fireman with a reception at Zack's, following a wedding ceremony. It was attended by their daughter, Mrs. Faye Ezrack; sons, Ben, Marvin and Jack Fireman of Los Angeles, and f...…

…Friday, April 29, 1949 DETROIT JEWISH CHRONICLE Page Eight in Me Realm Zocal Society Plans June 25 Wedding Katz-Tilchin Nuptials Held at Mayfair Room Jeanette Katz, daughter of Mr. and Mrs, Barnet Katz of Parkside avenue, became the bride of Aher Tilchin, son of Mr. and Mrs. Aaron Tilchin of Clements avenue, before 300 guests at a ceremony held April 3 at the Mayfair Room. Anne Rothenberg Wed to Leonard L. Radner Public Speaking Talk S...…

…Organization Leaders Plan, amPaign THE JEWISH NEWS ■ - 9 Sholom Units Install Leaders Friday, April 29, 1949 e ngagentenh • Leaders- of the Organizations' Division joined in the launChing of the 1949 Allied Jewish Cammpaign Sunday eve- ning. J•SEPI-li B.ERNSTEIN . (left) discussed the. $6,395,000 local 'drive' with 'RABBI-ISAAC STOLLMAN of thq Council of Orthodox "Rabibis - and ALEX' BELKIN (left). Bernstein and Belkin are chairmen o...…

…April Bride Mrs. Ben Kovinsky Attends Miami Nuptials Mr. and Mrs. M. Fishman of Cherrylawn avenue and Mr, and Mrs. M. Weingarden of Monica avenue are back from a Miami vacation. Lillian Takser of La Salle boulevard flew to New York City over the holidays to visit rela- tives. Mrs. Samuel Wohl of Calvert avenue has returned from Tuc- son where she spent the winter months. Mr. and Mrs. Theodore 11. Ole- sheimer of Eason avenue and daughter ...…

…World Leaders Greet Israel's President At Historic Festivities at Waldorf-Astoria Continued from Page 1 represented by the fuIfilhnent of the Zionist dream for the establishment of the Jewish State cannot be complete until Israel is admitted to full mem- bership in the United Nations. He emphasized that the act of admission must be accom- plished at this session of the UN General Assembly. His statement on Israel's admission to the UN follow...…

…Friday, April 29, 1919 DETROIT JEWISH CHRONICLE Page Ten 6 .9emenh • NCJW Slates Installation All in the Family 1 9 The engagement of Gloria liarrit:t Gurin, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Morris Gurin of New York, to Arthur Jerome Ross, son of Mrs. Claire Ross of Webb avenue, was announced at a dinner party held in New York. The bride-elect is studying psychology at the Uni- versity of Michigan.'Mr. Ross is a pre-medical student at the same ...…

…estitute, haunted by the ter- ible memories of martyrdom, ery often still stunned and de- oralized by the ordeals hrough which they have passed. o secure their transportation nd absorption in productive work is an immense task, the uccessful completion of which epends entirely upon the out- ( ome of the United Jewish Ap- peal, which merits the fervent upport of American Jewry. "I cannot possibly exaggerate he importance of a successful c l amp...…

…JWV to Mark SONGS OF ISRAEL Russell Day' Sunday, May 1, has been pro- claimed Harold Russell Day in Detroit by acting Mayor George Edwards. His appearance is sport-. sored by the Jewish War Vet- erans and the Bnai Brith Youth Organization. Russell will address a quarterly meeting of the Michigan JWV at 8 p.m., Sunday at the Center. At 2 p.m. he will speak at the youth jubilee. Rabbi Joshua Sperka will give the invocation. Irivng Berg ...…

…12 — THE JEWISH NEWS Friday, April 29, 1949 To Wed New Yorker Council Women Vote" Zukin's to Celebrate At Luncheon May 2 First Year on Dexter To celebrate its first • anni- versary on Dexter Blvd., Zukin's confectionery and delicatessen will hold a four-day celebration, beginning at 12 noon Sunday, May 1. _ Patrons visiting Zukin's be- tween 10 and 12 p.m. each eve- ning during the celebration may have their photographs -taken without ch...…

…• DETROIT JEWISH CHRONICLE Page Twelve Friday, April 29, 1919 CONY Strike Indorsed Here V;514E1,4 114E a5RAXLI PRt5oNeRS .cf-wAR OF AROIC AFAR -rzion RETURNED To )fiRuSALEcA TitVi • iota WITH 14i10A A . V.FECtoW viiilcm PASSED 14iRouol MANY TRIALS ANDIAISLit.ATIONS WAS FIRST Rt5cuEo FROM A SyNA806LIE IN EUROPr, BURNED - r}ta. NAz15 le-HE RESCUER, A RE.FLIGEE,AND SOLE SURv1VER A JVNISR COMMUNITY estoudgx THE More than 100 students at Wayn...…

…Tillie Feinbloom to Wed Leon Frankel This June AdivitieJ in Society Mrs. Oscar Blumberg of Glynn Ct. and Mrs. Rose Lipson of Merton Road, have returned from a few weeks' visit in the East. Mrs. Samuel Gerson of the Belcrest left last Saturday for Philadelphia where she will visit with her daughter and son-in- law, Mr. and Mrs. S. L. Kushner. • Mr. and Mrs. J. B. Lasky of Covington Rd., have returned from Miami Beach, where they spent the win...…

…Friday, April 29, 1949 Teen•Age Sophisticates DETROIT JEWISH CHRONICLE Map Dance Festival By HELEN TENNENBAUM LIVERY PENNY you give to the .124 Allied Jewish Campaign, mul- tiplied by the contribution of others, adds up to a whole lot, and the campaign will divide the • proceeds to help dozens of activi- ties in Detroit, in the nation and abroad. You can have a party and in- vite some of your friends to con- tribute to 1 h e AJC and then ...…

…14—THE JEWISH NEWS Friday, April 29, 1949 Recent Bride Ala Guests from Detroit at the dinner in honor of Dr. Chaim Weizmann, President of Israel, at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel, New York, included Nate S. Shapero, who was the first national presi- dent of the Sieff Institute; now the Weizmann Institute of Science; Mr. and Mrs. Walter Field, Mr.1 and Mrs. Fred Ginsburg, Mrs. Ralph Davidson, Mrs. Morse Sautson, Mrs_ Joseph M. Welt, Mrs. Abraha...…

…Perri v ixericatt r ••• Pale Fourteen . DETROIT JEWISH CHRONICLE Friday, April 29, 1949 thronicle Want Ads Bring Results Classified Ads Accepted up to 10 A. M. Wednesday Rates:. 6c Per Word. Minimum Charge $1.00, Payable in Advance of Publication 2827 BARLUM TOWER PERSONAL APTS. & FLATS WANTED WANTED-6-room flat In northwest section Adults. TY. 6-3390. WO. 1-1040 HEI.P Young employed couple find 3 room apartment. or income. Will ...…

…Beth Yehudah Maps 32nd Annual Meeting Congregational Activities Statement by Detroit Rabbis Endorses Allied Jewish Drive Temple Israel Gives Graduates Diplomas At May 6 Exercises The commencement services of Temple Israel High School will be held at 8:30 p.m. Friday, May 6, in the Lecture Hail of the Detroit Institute of Arts. Presentation of diplomas to the 19 graduates will be made by the president of Temple Israel, George M. Stutz. Scho...…

…P eriodical Cotter CLIFTON AVENUE - CINCINNATI 20, 01110 Fridiy. April 21, ISO DETROIT JEWISH CHRONICLE IMiatver Chairman Unveiling Notice S.Z. Sermon r • The families of the late Men- to Honor Wise dell Sarasohn, Robert Sarasohn Services Were at Hebrew Benev- olent. He is survived by his wife, DAVID GOLDRATH, of 2415 Rose; and daUghte:rs,: Mrs Freda Oakman boulevard, died April 19. Paratzer, Mrs. Shirley Taub, Mrs. Services were at Ira K...…

…16 — THE JEWISH NEWS Harry Cohen Again Heads Z Day; Annual ZOD Meeting on May 19; Announce Scholarship to Israel Friday, April 29, 1949 Bale Post Named Cage Champions By Maxine R. Levin Jewish News Art Editor „ , • y ‘idener and Sarkisian Two-Man Show - •I had a real treat in a pre- view of the two man show which Walter Midener and Sarkis Sar- kisian opened this week at the Artists Market. Seeing their work in their studios and find-...…

…Page Sixteen DETROIT ..It!WISH CHRONICLE OUR ATHLETES Campus Club Gets Kell for Sport Banquet Friday, April 29, 1949 JWV The liVeizmanns Guests of U.S. BULLETIN Mrs. Samuel Rhodes, president of the Department Auxiliary, in- ducted the Ladies Auxiliary of the Sholom Post and installed its officers Thursday at Shaarey Zw ic k. following The following were installed: Mesdames Leo Panzer, president; Irving Hencken, Lowell Stolerow, Hyman S...…

…Dann. ) , Raskin 's LISTENING T TammuimitilinimmmumminimmimintimuniuminummuffinlimmminnuntimunimiE. WHEN THE EVENING'S fes- THE LARGEST PRISON in the world . . . with population of tiviities were finished . . . we about 5,700 . . . loomed huge in had an opportunity to talk with front as we neared Jackson the boys . . . One of the Detroit State Prison of Southern Mich- fellows, confined for an offense igan . . . to join other guests minor -...…

…Obituaries MRS. HELEN GARFIELD, 64, of 2556 W. Philadelphia, died on April 18. Funeral services were held at Hebrew Benevolent So- ciety. Rabbi Isaac Stoliman of- ficiated. She is survived by her husband, Rev. Jacob Garfield; a son, Herman, daughters, Mrs. Eve Sheldon, Mrs. Edith Freund- lich, and two grandchildren. * * * MRS. JENNIE DORFMAN, 58, of 3751 Gladstone, died April 19. Funeral services were held at , the Hebrew Benevolent Society. ...…

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…Exclusive in Michigan—Dr. Weizmann's Autobiography Israel's Historic Challenge: Jewish State's Formative Stages; Attitude to Religious issues The lifetime of Chaim Weizmann, now spans the lifetime of the Zionist movement he led during most of his years—a movement with small beginnings which has culminated in establishment of a new and independent nation. But the fight is not ove , Dr. Weizmann continues his autobiography: r , By Chaim Wei...…

…Science and Zionism: Another Installment in Dr. Weizmann's Autobiography ISM NEWS A Weekly Review ~~~ Detroit's Allied Jewish Campaign Supports the UJA Causes VOLUME 15—NO. 6 of Jewish Events . —Page 20 2114 Penobscot Bldg.—Phone WO. 5-1155 Detroit 26, Michigan, April 22, 1949 34 .4110. 1„.-. 22 $3.00 Per Year; Single Copy, 10c Morge thou to e '49 Allie Campaign at Cass ally Sunday Exodus. 1949 Detroit's Allied Jewish Campaign is k...…

…Turn Sod for Dexter Center 13stitcri.,t .TauriAh, CHRONICLE Vol. 51, No. 13 41-111+, 27 Friday, April 22, 1949 Only Auglo-Jewish Paper It'ith Full Local ('overage Ceremony Scheduled for Sunday 10c a Copy — $3 Per Year Nation Mourns Dr. Wise Champion Morgenthau of Freedom Here Sunday Dies at 75 if ut i• Is t- le 0, to n. 8 of id be es ill lie 08 ,a- ve It e Ler -ly nd me ire on 27 an, 'he tat cd, ed. With pre-campai...…

…U. S. Spokesmen Take Firm Pro-Israeli Stand at UN 2—THE JEWISH NEWS Friday, April 22, 1949 Movie-Producing Company Founded Israeli -American by Emanuel Neumann to Moshe Sharett at the Waldorf Astoria ceremony attended by 300 Zionist and civic leaders. The. plan, By ADA OREN drawn up by engineers of the (Member of the Staff of the Jewish Agency's . Commission on Jewish Telegraphic Agency Palestine Surveys, will be sub- Bureau in Tel Aviv.) ...…

…Page Two ADL Reports Amity Gains Parley Speaker Pioneer Units Slate Events NEW YORK—(Special)—More gains than losses were scored by the Anti-Defamation League of Bnai Brith in its fight against anti-Semitism during 1948. BATTLE GAINS "The facts in this careful sur- vey point to many inequities in American life. But they also point to the conscientious efforts of many Ameficans who are work- ing to cleanse our nation of anti- Semitism and ...…

…Enemies Seek Postponement Of Israel's Admission to UN -ROME (JTA)—Pope Pius XII asked for the establishment of an international regime in Jeru- salem in an encyclical letter dis- patched co all Catholic bishops. Expressing satisfaction at the armistice in Palestine, the Pope declared that there was no real peace there. He invited the bishops to emphasize this situa- tion to their congregations. In addition to requesting inter- nationalization...…

…Friday. April 22. 1949 DETROIT JEWISH CHRONICLE Page Three STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL Ridicules Reports of Soviet Reversal on Israel By P111NEAS J. B1RON TOURNALISTS IN the Jewish and non- Jewish Jewish fields are writing with an all- knowing air about the change in the Soviet policy towards Israel. Rumors from "reliable sources" were circulated that when Israel would be on the agenda at the' • the UN, the Soviet representa- tives, yes, the ve...…

…Tear Them Out! As -the Editor Views the News Book Exposes Prejudice ; Strong Justice Weapon Spain's 'Al Het' A brochure entitled "Spain and the Sep- hardic Jews" published by the Spanish Em- bassy in Washington, seeks to prove that Gen. Francisco Franco's regime treats the Jews in Spain well. Of particular interest is the attempt of this pamphlet to prove that the Jews were ex- pelled from • Spain in the 15th century for "religious and not...…

…DETROIT JEWISH CHRONICLE Page Four Friday, April 22, 1949 Detroit Jewish Chronicle Published by the Jewish Chronicle Publishing Co., Inc. 2827 Barium Tower, Detroit 26, Michigan WOodward 1-1040 SUBSCRIPTION: $3.00 Per Year, Single Copier, 10c; Foreign, $5.00 Pa. Year &tenet se Second-clan !natter March 3, 1916, at the Poet Office at Detroit, Mich., under the Act of March 3, 1879 SEYMOUR TILCHIN, President Friday, April 22, 1949 GEORGE...…

…THE JEWISH NEWS Detroit's First Modern Orthodox Rabbi Came Here 60 Years Ago the orthodox Jewish community By - IRVING I. KATZ It is generally known that the of Detroit. venerable 82 - year old Rabbi Aaron M. Ashinsky of Pittsburgh, was Detroit's first modern orth- odox rabbi sixty years ago. Rabbi Ashinsky was born in Poland in 1867 and received his Smichah (ordination) at the age Of 19. He came to New York in 1886 when there were a handfu...…

…Friday, April 22, 1919 DETROIT • Survey Impact of Constitution JEWISH CHRONICLE 111111"4/ IIANnIfirs Page Five - — Plans for June 9 Conclare Stirs I eaffue Clubwomen . A symposium on The Israeli Constitution—Its Impact on World Affairs," will be held Tuesday evening at the Lee Plaza under the at.-pices of the Business and Profe-sional Chapter of the American Jewish Congress. Various phases of the Constitu- tion will be discussed by a...…

…THE DAY IS THIS SUNDAY Women Prepare for Intensive One-Day Drive Sunday, April 24 or The Day, as it is better known tom the workers and prospects in general solicitation of. the Wo- men's Division of the 1949 Allied Jewish Campaign will find two thousand women ringing doorbells as they cover 14,000 prospect slips. With their campaign kits ready to tuck under their arms, the army of general solicitation workers awaits Sunday, April 24, when t...…

…DETROIT JEWISH CHRONICLE Page Six of Zocal Society • in the Realm Eve Weingarden Weds Dr. Irving Hirschman Morris Cantors Wed for Quarter Century • Mr. and Mrs. Joseph Klinger of Cortland avenue held a tele- vision party. Among the guests Mr. and Mrs. Morris Cantor of were Mr. and Mrs. Harry Cohen Chicago boulevard celebrated, of Richton avenue and Mr. and their - 25th wedding anniversary Mts. Jack Yourofsky of Cortland at a family dinne...…

…Services in Our Synagogues Congregational News Steel Merchant Aids Beth Yehudah School Saul Kalt, Detroit steel mer- chant who resides on West Grand Boulevard, has contributed to the operation of the Beth Yehudah schools f o r whole day, . it was announced this week. Privately edu- cated till the age of 13 in the traditional Jew- ish manner, Kali then attended a n d graduated f r om Hutchins Kalt Intermediate and Northwestern High Schools. ...…

…Friday, April 22, 1949 - — -- Detroit Guests Spend Holiday in Mt. Clemens DETROIT JEWISH •CHRONICI,E Troth Revealed Th e following were guests from Detroit at the Colonial Hotel in Mt. Clemens for the Passover Holiday: Mr. and Mrs. Meyer Applebaum, Mr.. Joseph Barnett, Mr. and Mrs. Julius Berman, Mr. :aid Mrs. Jacob Blumberg, Mrs. - B.. raver, Mrs. W. Car!stein, Mr. and Mrs. A. M. Dunitz, Mrs. R. Fiehner. Also Mr. and Mrs. Nathan Fishman, ...…