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…Hanukah Observed at CARIH Raise $5 Million for Research at Weizmann Inst. Over five million dollars for development and endowment needs at Israel's famed research center, the Weizmann Institute of Science, were contributed in special gifts by American donors during the past year, it was dis- closed at a dinner held Dec. 13, at the Americana, New York. The anouncement was made by Harry Levine, of Wellesley Hills, Mass., who presided at the 17...…

…Hanukah Festival Program Listed .Wancy Cohen Weds Histadrut Honors Its Volunteers; Israel Faces Internal Crisis by Israel Bonds to Close Campaign Rabbi Harold Ilahfi Told Histadrut volunteers and their from Mrs. Adele Mondry, Hista- Michael Baum, 10, son of Mr. A program has been completed for the Israel Hanukah festival and Mrs. Henry Baum,. 18410 this Sunday, 8 p.m., in the Foun- Wisconsin, a pupil of Yeshiva tain Room of Masonic Temple, Be...…

…Stamp Collector Spreads Story of Anti-Nazi Harand Movement Review Progress of Technion at Annual Function The progress attained at the Dr. Jacob Goldman presided pert. Rabbi Irwin Groner gave Israel Institute of Technology at the dinner program. Robert the invocation and the benedic- By RICHARD APTEKAR in Haifa—known as the Tech- Brody greeted the gathering tion. Joseph Epel made presen- When a Christian crusades nion—was outlined at the an-...…

…PI1111.1111114 Justice Douglas Hails American Kibbutz at Hashomer-Hatzair Event eivry Berry Appointed Head of UjA25th Anniversary Local Committee tional Hotels and of Midwest The people in Israel's collec- chain of ten kibbutzim establish- Properties Co. and is a director tive settlements, the kibbutzim, ed by members of the American (-9 n the Air: of the Public Bank. are putting into practice the Hashomer Hatzair Zionist youth This Week's...…

…Jewish jurist who lived in Hun- in 1848 and 1849 when he serv- gary during the 19th century, ed in the revolutionary armies. Danny Raskin's LISTENING CHANUKAH LATKES NOW 1.1 10 FOR $2 ORDER JUMBO SIZE LIBERMAN'S FOOD AT ITS BEST .. . At South Oakland County's Most Beautiful Delicatessen Restaurant! LARGEST SELECTION OF GIFT I POOD PACKAGES FOR THE VERY FINEST IN BUFFET PARTY TRAYS—ORDER NOW FROM PERRI'S Northwood Center Woodward at...…

…The Hanukah Story First Installment MANY YEARS AGO IN THE ANCIENT AND SO ANTIoCHUS SENT A LARGE ARMY LAND OF SYRIA/ THERE LIVED A KING.... AGAINST THE JEWS OF PALESTINE.... THE DETROIT JEWIS H NE ANTIOCHUS THIS KING'S AMBITION WAS TO UNITE ALL SURROUNDING- TRII3E5 INTO ONE EMPIRE ANO ONE RELIGION—GREEK IDOL WORSHIP! THE JEWS, OF COURSE, REFUSED TO CHANGE THEIR. RELIGION, SO THEY WERE TO BE THE FIRST OF H 5 INTENDED VICTIMS.... TAN THE SO...…

…Otto's Painting & Dry Wall Co. Rabbi Jose was wont to say: "In all my life I never called [For Hanukah—A 3-Voice Round] Slowly, proudly my wife 'my wife' but 'my home.' " —Gittin 52. A 3-Voice Round 2 Glail111=1111111111111P111111 11M1111111111,1 111111ffillIP 9335 Beech Rd. Detroit 39, Michigan of Who's the he - ro Greetings on Hanukah 1 PUBLIX CLEANERS How the Jews were the sto - ry! 19504 W. McNichols KE 2-3430 13035 W. Mc...…

…The Hanukah Story Second Installment CROWING OLD— AND MATTATHIAS WAS /WIRED BY MATTATHIAS AND HIS THOUGH PEW IN NUMBER THIS 5/MLLE/UT HE CALLED HIS SONS TO HIS SIDE ONE DAY, WITH THE ALTAR COMPLETED,ThEjEWS WERE FIVE SONS THE ISRAELITES FORMED BAND OF HAlIDIM(P/O1 U5 MEN) COMMANDER OF ✓UDAH APPOINTED COMMANDED TO MAKE AN OFFERING TO A SMALL ARMY AND FLED THROUGH CAUSED THE ENEMY TO SUFFER THE CREEK 0005—WHEN SupoeNLv THE DARKNESS INTO THE HI...…

…Moussakas Test Skill of Cook Holiday Best Wishes Industrial Meyer Weingarden F1 Sons, Inc. (Copyright, 1962, Jewish Telegraphic Agency, Inc.) but not brown. Add the beef, Kosher versions of Moussakas, the layered casseroles of the Balkans, are favorites not only of Jewish families from the part of Europe, but of all ethers who have tasted them. Although they are not at all difficult to make and are composed of the most inexpensive, every...…

…Third Installment But EVEN AS SADLY BEATEN AS HE WAS Continued from Page 34 ALTHOUGH HOPELESSLY OUTNUMSERED,THE ISRAELITES,THROUG) – A FTER HEARING OFJUDAH ANTIOCHUS DID NOT GIVE UP... FOR A THE MASTERFUL LEAPERSHiP oF',..1UOAH MACCABEUS, 50M AND SE C A LI 5 E OFJUDAH'5 WI - S. MACCAEEUS`MANY VICTORIES...: YEAR LATER..:. MEN.... 1 , i , DEFEATED ,ANTIOCHUS' OF HIS FOUR DECISIVELY THE ACTS OF VALOR . - BROTHERS, THE PEOPLE THAT_ HAD ....._...…

…By MAX NORDAU The nations that emancipated the Jews have mistaken their own . feelings. In order to pro- duce its full effect, emancipation should first have been complet- ed in sentiment before it was declared by law. But this was not the case. The history of Jewish emancipation is one of the most remarkable pages in the history of European thought. The eman- Hanukah Greetings TEK INDUSTRIES 132 Manchester TO 8-8123 "WINIIIMI1•1•11 ■ IMP...…

…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEW S — Friday, De cember 21, 1962 — 38 The lialtukah Story Final Installment (Continued from Page 36) AGAIN ANTIOCHUS'MEN itERE THROWN THEN JUDAH CALLED "I'd HIS PEOPLE SACK IN DEFEAT... THE JeWS HAD FINALLY Rif, THEIR LAND OF THE HEATHEN DICTATOR.... TO REBUILD THEIR TEMPLES AND PURIFY THEM.... AND 9111...t TO THIS l'Act,JEWS ALL OVER THE 9U1 ' IT WAS POUND TWAT THERE WORLD, ON THE TWENTY-FIFTH PA4 OF KISLEV, CE...…

…Einstein's Views on Immortality, Israel Buys U.S. Agricultural Commodities WASHINGTON, (JTA)—Israel peace" agreement being sign& will receive $68,000,000 in sur- this week by Israeli and U. S World Security Told in Volume b I. Ohs American agricultural corn- officials. The agreement cover: modities, with payment in Israeli a three-year period, terminating Karsh, In Search of Greatness' pounds, under a new "food for in 1965. Sincere Best Wishe...…

…Justice Rutlege on 'Separation' S. Africa Jews Differ with Israel's Stand on Their Country at UN By EDGAR BERNSTEIN (Copyright, 1962, Jewish Telegraphic Agency, Inc.) JOHANNESBURG—Dr. Teddy Schneider, chairman of the Jew- ish Community Council in Pre- toria said: "We are aware of Israel's special difficulties and serious problems, yet we cannot but regret her overall vote for sanctions against our country." He was expressing the general fe...…

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…- THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS — Friday, December 21, 1962 — 42 — .61111111111/Wip How Deep Is Anti-Semitism in England? By SAMUEL J. GOLDSMITH, tial danger in times of social JTA Correspondent in London stress or economic recession. (Copyright 1962, Jewish Telegraphic Now we have for the first Agency, Inc.) LONDON — There has never time something approaching a been a scientific survey of anti- scientific survey. Far from com- Semitism in Brit...…

…submitted. This move was de- feated on a separate roll call in which again Israel voted for the word "accept." the proposition that in a reli- convert gentiles in substantial UNITED NATIONS, N.Y. — The world has been delivered This contention is the basis giously open society like the numbers to Judaism or face of a strong appeal by Rabbi (JTA)—The General Assembly's into the hands of fools. Sanhe- I Samuel Teitelbaum, who has- Administrative...…

…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS -- Friday, December 21, 1962 -- 44 • CLASSIFIED ADVERTISEMENTS Liners and display classified ads accepted from re- sponsible firms or individuals by telephone up to noon Wednesday. For rates and information . . 13-FOR RENT APARTMENTS ATTRACTIVE furnished room, pri- vate bath, professional person pre- ferred. EL. 7-1587. (JUST NORTH OF 7 MILE ROAD) DESIRABLE room, home like atmos- phere, privileges. Good transp. F...…

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…Dr. Simon Bernstein, Scholar, Zionist, Dies Noted Figures Mourn Passing of Sokolsky NEW YORK, (JTA)—Dr. Si- mon Bernstein, prominent au- thor, scholar and veteran Zionist, died here at the age of 80. He was an expert on Hebrew poetry of the Middle Ages, and the author of numerous works on the subject. Born in Latvia, Dr. Bernstein attended yeshivas in Poland and thereafter Universities of Berlin and Strasbourg. He received his Ph.D. at the U...…

…111 63 fro E-1 4.1 A Ilied Drive Formula Adopted for 1963 Urgent Appeals to Community for Stepped-Up Giving in Emergency Needs Overseas, Local Obligations After several hours of deliberations on community needs and Detroit Jewry's obliga- tions to overseas causes and Israel, a steering committee of 30, selected at the annual budgeting conference of the Jewish Welfare Federation, agreed upon a formula for the allocation of funds to be rai...…

…Annual - Federation Budgeting - Conference Next' Sunday The Jewish Welfare Federation will hold its pre-campaign budget conference, 10 a.m., Sunday, Dec. 16, at the Jewish Community Center, 18100 Meyers. Max M. Fisher, president of the Federation, will preside. A continental breakfast will be served . at 9:30 a.m. ' The budget conference will develop a formula for allocating funds to be raised from the Federa- tion's 1963 Allied Jewish Campai...…

…Purely Commentary Tributes to Simons, Sobeloff . . . Israel's Naturalization Issue By Philip SIOMOVitZ Call for Greater Jewish Action in Negroes' Defense It merely inflames their fanaticism. So I doubt the wisdom Of advertising the author of this latest frenzy." By MILTON FRIEDMAN Isidore Sobeloff has rightfully earned the tine of Chief Mark Twain was noted for his epigrams. This writer was the (Copyright, 1962, Architect of our major com...…

…Generous Contributions Provide Funds for Expanded'Facilities for Home for the Aged Do not worry for the morrow, Miserable is the life of one for you know not what the mor- whose wife rules over him. row may bring. Ben Sira. Betza 32 ' (Continued from Page 1) all our needs together, and course of the evening to corn- fl At Monday night's dinner, when we talk about the coin- mend the activities of Don La- It Herbert Aronsson announced munity w...…

…-4 111.111$111.111.41•11M~OlimallginimmilliWT . THE JEWISH NEWS 1951 incorporating the Detroit Jewish Chronicle commencing with issue of July 20, GETT:iNg TO THE SECOND FLOOirt, Member American Association of English—Jewish Newspapers, Michigan Press Associations, National Editorial Published Association. every Friday by The Jewish News Publishing Co., 17100 West Seven Mile Road, Detroit 35, $6 a year. Foreign $7. Mich., VE 8-9364. Subscr...…

…Detroiters who were the pio- neer supporters of the historic task that made possible the re- vised translation of The Torah— the Five Books of Moses—con- ducted by noted Jewish scholars under the direction of the Jewish Publication Society of America, will be the first to receive their inscribed deluxe copies. The presentation to the 135 Detroiters who were the first to provide a fund to finance the JPS translation committee's ef- EDWIN WOLF ...…

…I 0111100.011•141111•11.41 ■ 114.111110• ■ 0•111 ■ OMIN.04111.01.041•11, (1 ■ 111•.0 Allt.tlil.04M111.1•1111.1411111100.M071111•011111101 ■ 0••••„.....-.7 Science Firm he Seek Knesset Debate on Israel Ownership of the (Direct JTA Teletype Wire to The Jewish Ness) Boris Smolar's JERUSALEM — The Liberal, Herut and Mapam parties sub- mitted to •srael's parliamentary speaker Tuesday an urgent re- , quest for debate on the forma- tion of a g...…

…(Continued from Page 1) Addressing more than 2,000 'delegates and guests at the UJA banquet Saturday night, former President Harry S. Truman ex- pressed admiration for "the pa- tience and restraint" of Israel's diplomatic corps who, he said, "year in and year out have been subjected at the United Nations and other public forums to a barrage of abuse on the part of representatives of Israel's neigh- bors." Israel has more than lived up to the h...…

…THE DETROIT JE WISH NEWS -- Friday, De cember 14, 1962 to "Our concentration is on the future," he said. "I urge you to go forward together and we can make Detroit the best kind of a community only if we work together." Commenting on the references that were made at the luncheon to Mrs. Sobeloff, the Federation executive paid honor to his wife and her partnership with him in his work here by stating that she possessed "the neces- sary traini...…

…. be based on the fact that he aspect" of all Jews, he said, once 'was, or may still consider was "that we cannot cut our- himself to be, Jewish. This deci- •selves off from the historical sion should make abundantly past" and still remain a Jew." clear that, just as all Israelis "Whether religious, non-re- are not Jews, so all Jews are ligious or anti-religious, all Jews not Israelis. It is possible to be are bound to the Jewish peo- a Chris...…

…N. Y. Zionists Sell $250,000 in Bonds NEW YORK, (JTA) — More than $250,000 worth of Israel bonds were sold at a dinner hon- oring 15 branches of Farband Poale-Zion, fraternal and labor Zionist groups which were cited for outstanding service to Israel. Abba Eban, Israel Minister of Education, was the guest speak- er at the dinner. JDC Notes Growing Needs; Adopts $30,769,000 Budget NEW YORK, (JTA)—A bud- get of $30,769,000 for 1963 was adopte...…

…MORRIS LIEBERMAN HARRY SCHUMER Chairman SIDNEY SHEVITZ Honorary Chairman 1st Vice-Chairman Philip D. Goldstein, Sam Kaufer, Hyman Lipsitz, Jack Malamud Mrs. Chana Michlin, Mrs. Emma Schaver Vice-Chairmen DIVISION AND TRADES FARBAN D Jacob Glaser Morritz Schubiner David Sislin IRVING POKEMPNER Chairman Executive Board L.Z.O.A. Bernard Schiff Paul Sislin Sam Yagoda PIONEER WOMEN Mrs. Belle Glenner ORGANIZATIONS Sam Kaufer Nathan Ro...…

…SYNAGOGUE SERVICES Dr. Finkelstein, Safran Share Seminary Honors CONG. BETH EL: At Sabbath services 8:30 p.m. today, Rabbi Hahn will speak on "The Ghetto That Reform Jews Are Creating." At services 11:15 a.m. Saturday, Dr. Hertz will speak on "What Makes a Good Brother?" The Bar Mitzvah of Howard E. Gurwin will be observed. CONG. SHAAREY ZEDEK: Sabbath services 4:45 p.m. today and 9 a.m. Saturday. The Bar Mitivahs of David L. Bennett and Ho...…

…Representatives of all elements in Detroit Jewry and spokesmen for many organizations and movements are joining in honor- ing Judge Ira G. Kaufman, at the fifth annual dinner of Merkos L'Inyonei Chinuch (Chabad Lu- hold its pre-Hanukah dinner- dance 6:30 p.m. Sunday at the synagogue, under the chairman- ship of Manny Lax. Cocktails will precede dinner and music for dancing will be provided by Sam Barnett and his orchestra. A holiday program w...…

…▪ Were it. not for darkness we could not appreciate the light. Zohar Tetzaveh. TO MIAMI CALL DI. 1-7111 FREE Dave "Jack the Bellboy" Schaefer of WJBK radio and guest recording artists will be featured at a "record hop" 7:30 p.m. Saturday by the Beth Aaron Senior USY at Beth Aaron. 18000 Wyoming. Tickets may be purchased at the door. Jewish youths between 15 and 18 are invited. Dr. Ernst Simon, distinguished Israeli scholar and educator,...…

…Louis M. Elliman, a trustee of the State of Israel, well known Detroiter who is a lifelong friend of Robert Briscoe, Lord Mayor of Dublin, will be the chairman of the Hanukah Festival for Is- rael, Sunday, Dec. 23, 8 p.m., in the Fountain Room of Ma- sonic Temple. The Detroit Israel Bond Com- mittee is sponsoring the affair. Elliman's father was an asso- ciate of Dr. Theodor Herzl. The late Jacob M. Elliman was for many years one of th e leadi...…

…Archbishop of Canterbury Appeals Ben-Gurion Pledges Retaliation in Force for Christian-Jewish Understanding If Syria Continues Israel Border Attacks are called upon to blend their LONDON, (JTA) — A warn- Von Horn, chief of the U.N. peace and cooperate with UN deepest convictions with the ut- Truce Supervision Organization, officials, must also use its in- ing that the Western world still most reverence for others whose TEL AVIV — Prime Minis...…

…UNITED NATIONS, N.Y., (JTA) — Israel hit back this week at its Arab caluminators who, in 15 speeches in six days, have tried to batter Israel with charges of aggression against Arabs and with Hitlerian at- tacks which equated Jews, Is- rael and Zionism with Nazism and Fascism. The Israeli answer came in an address by Ambassador Michael S. Comay, Israel's per- manent representative, before the General Assembly's 110- member Special Political Co...…

…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS — Friday, December 14, 19 62 -- 18 — UNIVERSITY 1-8699 7525 WEST McNICHOLS ROAD • DETROIT 21, MICHIGAN Dining Room and Cocktail Lounge Dear Friends: We wish to express our heartiest thanks to the Detroit Jewish community for its friendship and for its sense of fair play and justice. For more than 10 years, having operated in the heart of the Jewish community, we have enjoyed the friendliest relationship with our ...…

…Park Chapter League of Wo- Berkal, DI 1-7589, or Mrs. Louis men's Voters. Co-hostesses will Grossman. * * be Mrs. Louis Grossman and JEWISH WOMEN EURO- Mrs. Samuel Flam. Refresh- PEAN WELFARE ORGANIZA- ments will be served. A Hanu- TION board will meet noon KINNERET CHAPTER, Pio- kah gift shop will be displayed Tuesday at the home of Mrs. M. neer Women, will meet 12:30 at the meeting. For informa- Spilberg, W. 6381 Outer Dr. p.m. Wednesday at ...…

…Center Premiers Shostakovich Cello Concerto, Olefsky Is Soloist A new Cello Concerto by Di- mitri Shostakovich will be played for the first time in Detroit on Tuesday evening at the Jewish Center, 18100 Meyers, by Paul Olefsky, cellist, with the accom- paniment of the Center Sym- phony Orchestra, under the di- rection of Julius Chajes. Olefsky, former solo cellist of the Philadelphia Orchestra and the Detroit Symphony, has just completed a se...…

…Buchenwald Option. to Brotherhood, Loynd Tells Round Table Session Ina Lubin to Wed Gerald Kahn Davis and Company, was hon- ored for his "long leadership in promoting the cause of good will among peoples of the world" at the $35-a-plate dinner. Nate S. Shapero, chairman of the board of Cunningham Drug Stores and co-chairman of the dinner, presented the 1962 Brotherhood Award to Loynd. Loynd recalled vivid histori -cal reminders of alternativ...…

…1,1 Hanukah Events Are Announced - Sark-II eberma;1 Plans for special observances THE DETROIT LABOR of the festival of Hanukah have ZIONIST MOVEMENT, includ- been announced by schools and ing Farband, Pioneer Women grOups in the community. In- and Habonim, will hold its an- cluded, to date, are the follow- nual Hanukah celebration 8:30 ing: p.m. Dec. 24 at the Hayim THE HILLEL DAY SCHOOL Greenberg Center, 19161 Schae- will hold an integrated ...…

…MOSA T.0 LODGE, F.&A.M., has elected Dr Nathan Starman as worshipful master. Other officers are Douglas A. Purther, senior wafden; Mitchell Gold- stone, junior warden; Sol Lum- berg, treasurer; Theodore Isaacs, secretary; Aaron Katz- man, senior deacon: and Morris Watnick, junior deacon. Instal- lation ceremonies- will be held 8:30 p.m. Dec. 26 at the Scottish Rite Cathedral, preceded by a dinner in the Fountain Ball- room. A reception and dan...…

…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS — Friday, December 14, 1962 — 24 Doreen Kline Will Wed Donald Sand People Make News DR. BELA SCHICK, prominent pediatrician and immunologist, was honored by New York's Beth El Hospital at a dinner markiag his 85th birthday with the an- nouncement that a new nursery center at the hospital would be named for him. MISS .DOREEN KLINE Mr. and Mrs. Edward Kline of Sherman Oaks, Calif., an- nounce the engagement of their ...…

…MRS. SIDNEY WALLACE Mrs. Sidney Wallace, presi- dent of the Detroit League of the Children's Asthma Research Institute and Hospital at Den- ver, announces the commence- ment of campaign plans for the group's annual donor luncheon, to be held Wednesday, Jan. 16, at Town and Country Club. A program of entertainment is now being planned by commit- - tees in charge. Detailed plans Will be an- nounced at a luncheon meeting at the home of Mrs. Robe...…

…Rabbi Herbert Parzen's History of Zionism Emphasizes Continued Need for Strengthening Movement To a former Detroiter, Rabbi Herbert Parzen, goes the dis- tinction of having written one of the most convincing appeals for the retention of the Zionist spirit and the strengthening of the Zionist movement. In his latest book, "A Short History of Zionism," published by Herzl Press, Rabbi Parzen not only evaluates the entire Zionist idea, reviewing,...…

…(More Clubs Page 19) TOWN AND COUNTRY CHAPTER, Women's American ORT, will meet Tuesday at the home of Mrs. Milton Superstine, 20271 Murray Hill. Hostesses will 'be Mrs. Rhoda Golden and Mrs. Ann Carron. Mrs. Sol Cohen, program chairman, has invited Robert M. Cohn, physi- cal and health education direc- tor of the Juvenile Detention Home, to speak on "Youth Prob- lems." * * ALONAH CHAPTER, Pioneer Women, will hold its annual paid-up membership ...…

…00 _1963 Allied Campaign Women's Division Leaders e.t r-t r-i a.) ps:2. a) c.) a) >7.* . 1;r4 zn O fa The Women's Division of the Jewish Wel- fare Federation has chosen a complete slate of leaders for the 1963 Allied Jewish Cam- paign. In photo, from left: standing, Mesdames Seymour J. Frank, vice-president of cam- paign; Morris J. Brandwine, general solicita- tion chairman; Samuel J. Rhodes, headliners chairman; Julien Priver, Sey...…