…',,f 1h , ' ' THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Friday, February 5, 1982 39 Compare Maly, Variety And Price SUPERMARKETS ONE SUPERMARKET IS BETTER THAN THE REST dpirMegipi:eqp • R. FLEISCHMANN'S 100% CORN OIL PHILADELPHIA BRAND SOFT MARGARINE EMPIRE KOSHER FROZEN CREAM - CHEESE FRESH FISH SHOP AVAILABLE ONLY AT: COOLIDGE AT 10 MILE PH. 566-4641 GREENFIELD NEAR 8 MILE PH. 569-7285 GREENFIELD NEAR 11 MLILE PH. 569-1662 BAR-B-0 CHICKEN 1...…
…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS 40 Friday, February 5, 1982 Rabbi Tanenbaum to Speak to Detroit AJCommittee Unit Jospey Heads Sinai Board Rabbi Marc Tanenbaum, director of the interreli- gious affairs department of the American Jewish Committee, will address the Detroit AJCommittee 8 p.m. Thursday at the Jimmy Prentis Morris Branch of the Jewish Com- munity Center. Rabbi Tanenbaum will speak on "What's Ahead in Jewish-Christian Rela- tions." The p...…
…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Friday, February 5, 1982 41 CHATIIA: SENIOR CITIZENS PRESENT COUPONS I i I DOUBLE -'.. 6 I 1 1 e possimimmmomm.................mmum... I S CERTIFICATE I II AND THIRECEIVE 1 I I CITY ADDRESS LI NAME • If you are 65 or older, redeem this certificate and get two (DOUBLE) Cash Dividend Coupons for each dollar you spend, I I I excluding alcohol & tobacco products. Proof of age required. Offer expires 2/9/82. fammi...…
…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS 42 Friday, February 5, 1982 INVITATIONS Israeli Kibutz Kfar Bloom Builds a Synagogue 30% OFF By MOSHE RON The Jewish News Special Israel Correspondent From Most Catalogues • - Personalized Stationery Matches, Napkins, Etc. 20% OFF Call Sidell Goldman 557-4365 TEL AVIV — Many years ago it would have been im- possible for kibutz mem- bers, especially from the Hashomer Hatzair, to help build a luxurious, elegan...…
…THE DETROIT 1WISH NEWS All the world over it is true that a double-minded man is unstable in all his ways, like a wave on the streamlet, tossed hither and thither with every eddy of its tide. Get Acquainted Offer For February Men Only $.2 OFF . First Manicure Call EDIE at Tel-12 Barber Shop 356-9825 ..71 Friday, February 5, 1982 43 Israel Safer Than Detroit? Israel's low incidence of violent crime was the sub- ject of a recent artic...…
…44 THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Friday, February 5, 1982 French Jews Playing Active Role Pamphlet Aids vA iscbtZsosoisf in Mitterrand Administration Gary R Miller & Associates Photography with a Personal Touch By BEN FRANK PARIS (JTA) — Quickly and without much fanfare, the new president of France entered the offices where the civil marriage of one of his most trusted aides was to take place. It is not everyone that has the president attend h...…
…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Cardozo Scores Jewish Welfare Board Offers Camp Directory ( Engagements NEW YORK — The five- year-old Benjamin N. Car- dozo School of Law of Yeshiva University was the newest law school in the na- tion to advance its moot court team to the pre- quarterfinal rounds of the recent 32nd annual Na- tional Moot Court Competi- tion. It was also the first time that a Cardozo team had progressed from regional competition and...…
…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS 46 Friday, February 5, 1982 Senior Center Seeks Drivers The Southfield Senior Adult Center is seeking volunteers to deliver meals to homebound senior citi- zens. Routes take 45-60 min- utes to complete and a mileage reimbursement will be given. Volunteers are needed a minimum of one day per month. For information, call Shelly Dickey or Jeanne Clelland at the Southfield Senior Adult Center, 354- 9362. "In the Tradit...…
…THE 'kir ;E' VASH NEWS Russian Seeks Kin Here Boris Shteinberg of Mos- cow is seeking relatives be- lieved to be living in De- troit. The SHEL ROTT ORCHESTRA Alan Robock of College Park, Md., is helping Shteinberg search for his relatives and provides the following information: "Boris has two uncles, Girsh and Moyshe Rapoport, who came to De- troit from Byelorussia in 1914. Boris' grandfather, Shmul Rapoport, had six children. "A sister...…
…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS 48 Friday, February 5, 1982 Midrasha February Forum Stars Guitarist Janet Pont Kedem Wine Co. of Brooklyn, N.Y., announces. the introduction of Kedem California Zinfandel, Nouveau Vintage 1981, under its Kedem Estate Brand Label. Like all other Kedem Wines, the new Zin- fandel is kosher. Folk singer-guitarist Janet Pont will present An Evening of Jewish Music" 8:30 p.m. Thursday at the Louis and Esther LaMed Auditor...…
…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Israel Capital Recognition Bill Topic of House SPECIALTY PRINTING CARD 'n GIFT The Original JELLY BELLY Y2 lb. ASSORTED PKG. REG. PRICE $1.79 9.35 Wtih This Ad ARGE CHOIC VALENTINE CARDS A bill calling for the United States to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capi- tal has been sponsored by Michigan Congressman James Blanchard. Blanchard is the chief sponsor of the bill, House Resolution 136, which was presen...…
…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS 50 Friday, February 5, 1982 Youth News BETH ABRAHAM HILLEL MOSES youth department will sponsor a ague Oirdi en PbotograPbP 477.6664 Weddings and Bar Mitzvas movie day 12:30 p.m. Sun- day in the youth lounge. Children should bring a dairy lunch. Refreshments will be served, and there is a nominal charge. The youth lounge is open 6:15 p.m. Tuesdays for a hot dog dinner and games. For information, call Mike Klein,...…
…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Campers Sought by Hashachar Camp Young Judea, the Hashachar summer pro- gram sponsored by Hadas- sah, is taking enrollment for this year's sessions. Campers age 8-14 are in- vited to the Ortonville site to participate in swimming, rowing, sports, arts and crafts, drama, nature hikes, singing and dancing. Jewish history and culture and study of Israel are em- phasized. Shabat and kashrut are observed. The sessions will...…
…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS 52 Friday, February 5, 1982 Apts. Seek Funds for Park Bnai Brith Activities TZEDAKAH CHAP- TER will hold a Gift of Love luncheon 12:30 p.m. Feb. 13 in the home of Anne Vin- ocur, 20945 Andover, Southfield. Admission to the luncheon is gained with the purchase of a Gift of Love certificate to benefit the Children's Home in Is- rael. There will be an Anti-Defamation League Jewelry Appraisals YOU MUST PROTECT YOURSE...…
…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Center Restates Music, Dance Fest; Cultural Series to Begin The Jewish Community Center has rescheduled its Celebration of Jewish Music and Dance for 3:30 p.m. Sunday in the main Center complex. Among the performers not previously announced in the musical portion of the program are: Helen Ker- win, pianist; Marcy Chan- teaux, cellist; and Inez Re- dman, violinist. At 2:30 p.m. Sunday, Vladimir Frumkin and a group of s...…
…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS 54 Friday, February 5, 1982 CLASSIFIED ADVERTISEMENTS All real estate advertised in this newspaper is subject to the Federal Fair Housing Act of 1988 which makes it illegal to advertise "any prefer- ence, limitation, or discrimination based on race, color, religion, or na- tional origin, or an intention to make any such preference, limitation, or discrimination." This newspaper will not knowingly accept any advertisi...…
…; THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS 13—APARTMENTS 13 — APARTMENTS FOR RENT Luxurious 2 bedroom apartments. • 2 Full Baths • Carports W. 9 MILE AT PROVIDENCE DR. IN SOUTHFIELD 557-5339 Clean, quiet 2 bedroom apts., 1 townhouse, 1 single level. Adja- cent to Northland. From $300 per month plus security. Children ac- cepted. Available first week of Feb. Call 353-2996 for appt. GREENFIELD Near Lincoln Spacious 2 & 3 bedroom. Near shopping center...…
…56 Friday, February 5, 1982 16-B—CONDOMINIUMS FOR SALE THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS 16-B—CONDOMINIUMS FOR SALE GORGEOUS 2 BEDROOM RANCH W. BLOOMFIELD PEPPER HILL CONDO Three bedrooms, 2 baths, 2 car garage, upper unit. Immacu- late. Professionally 1st floor laundry, up- graded appliances. Cus- tom ceiling moldings, bal- cony and more. Land con- tract available. $87,500, $30,000 down with 11% interest. 3 to 5 years. Call today. CONDOMINI...…
…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS 17—HOUSES FOR SALE 17 — HOUSES FOR SALE SOUTHFIELD SIMPLE ASSUMPTION. Three bedroom brick ranch with 2 car attached garage. Family room with fireplace and rec room with bar. Freshly decorated. Owner ready to go. All terms will be con- sidered. $57,900. Call 559-2300. BEST BUY IN CONDOS. Three bedroom, appliances included. $67,500. Call 559-2300. (66584) REAL ESTATE ONE FARMINGTON HILLS TERMS PLUS PRICE Great f...…
…58 Friday, February 5, 1982 17—HOUSES FOR SALE SOUTHFIELD Evergreen-111/2 Mile Rd. Well kept 3 bedroom ranch, 1 1/2 baths, family room with fireplace, full finished base., cen. air, low fuel bills, storage and other extras. Att. 2 1/2 car garage, fenced yard, deck, trees. Land contract. $66,900. 357-0117 N. OAK PARK MUST SELL—MOVING OUT OF STATE Three bedroom brick ranch, family room with fireplace, large kitchen — all appliances include...…
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…60 Friday, February 5, 1982 40—BUSINESS CARDS CALLIGRAPHY — Any occa- sion. Very reasonable. Cindy. 559-2942, 352-2240. LADIES alterations. 20 years ex- perience. Reasonable. 968- 8490. HANDYMAN. Custom Painting. Interior or Exterior, and wallpaper hanging. 261-0392. RICH'S WALLCOVERING. Wallpaper Stripping. Free Esti- mates. (313) 756-6706. WHY PAY MORE CALL GLENN FOR YOUR BEST DEAL Licensed Electrical Contractor Violations Corrected A...…
…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Friday, February 5, 1982 61 Fanatic Church-State Separatists Injure Freedoms for All Citizens By REV. FRANKLIN LITTELL National Institute on the Holocaust rJ PHILADELPHIA — To say that the Holocaust was a breakdown of religious compassion and a triumph of evil is so banal as to bor- der on the bizarre. Before the breakdown of compas- sion there was a collapse of toleration. And Germany never had religious liberty,...…
…62 Friday, February 5, 1982 THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Volume Studies U.S. Immigrants in Israel By DAVID FRIEDMAN (Copyright 1982, JTA, Inc.) With the drop in immi- gration of Soviet Jewry, Is- rael is looking increasingly at Western Jewry, particu- larly the United States, as the next major supplier of immigrants. Yet American Jews, while united in sup- porting Israel, are not ex- pected to make aliya in the large numbers that Israel wants....…
…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Ex-Detroiter Dr. Selker OBITUARIES SADIE BERIN, 85, of Southfield, died Jan. 31. Survived by a son, Morris A.; seven grandchildren and eight great-grandchildren. * * * DANIEL L. BULKIN, 60, died Feb. 1. He leaves his mother, Mrs. Abraham (Esther) Bulkin; and two sisters, Mrs. Harry (Naomi) B---1- any and Mrs. Joan Q Survived by a sister, Marion Jane; and cousins. REUBEN LEVIN, 82, of Southfield, died Feb. 2. Sur...…
…64 Friday, February 5, 1982 THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS `Never Say Die!' Proclaimed Yiddish Battlecry (Continued from Page 2) bokher biz hirsh glik" (1963) and "Yerushelayem delite ilustrirt un dokumentirt" (1974), and, most importantly, members of my immediate family who helped me assemble the readings and check the bibliography, and, above all, who convinced me to include readings in Yiddish per se, so that through this volume the language wo...…
…The Facts Refute Arab Charges of 'Political Archeology' By NORMA GOLDMAN (Editor's note: Mrs. Goldman answers Arab charges, repeated in a recent nationally-syndicated Los Angeles Times article, that archeological digs in Israel are "political," or are destroying Arab ar- tifacts. A member of the faculty of Wayne State Uni- versity's Department of Greek and Latin Languages and Literatures, Mrs. Goldman participated last summer in the dig at C...…
…2 Friday, February 21, 1981 THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Purely Commentary The Standard Club Carved Noble Legacy for Detroit Jewish Community ... British-U.S. Attitudes on the Middle East ... Shylock Accented, Tarfut Temptation By Philip Slomovitz Goodbye Standard Club! • . . Regrettable Communal Loss The Standard Club now belongs to historical records as an institution that has served the community well and could not survive under the new co...…
…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Friday, February 27, 1981 nce a week at offi ill mar Genevieve Leman says, "I look forward to my weekly visits to American Federal. I've been going faithfully since my neighborhood branch opened. For me it's a real day brightener to hear, 'Good morning, Jenny.' I've been in other banks where you feel like a nobody standing in line. But at American they're never too busy to talk to me. They don't rush me. And they're...…
…THE JEWISH NEWS (LISPS 275-520i Incorporating The Detroit Jewish Chronicle commencing with the issue of July 20, 1951 Copyright @' The Jewish News Publishing Co. Member of American Association of English-Jewish Newspapers, National Editorial Association and National Newspaper Association and its Capital Club. Published every Friday by The_Jewish News Publishing Co., 17515 W. Nine Mile, Suite 865, Southfield, Mich. 48075 Postmaster: Send ad...…
…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Friday, February 27, 1981 5 Facts Refute the Arab Charges of 'Political Archeology' (Continued from Page 1) The dig currently being conducted during the sum- mers at Caesarea under the auspices of Drew Univer- sity, Madison, N.J., also exemplifies the openness of Israel to impartial archeol- ogy. With a permit from the Israeli Department of An- tiquities, Drew has been sending students and fa- culty from a consortium...…
…THE DETROIT 1EWII _NW T 6 Friday, February 21, 1981 Lebanese President Sarkis Defies Anti-Israel Arab Summit Bias friendly to Israel were avoided — and when they couldn't be avoided their testimony was suppressed in the panel's report. The featured interviews in Lebanon were with Muslim, PLO and anti-Israel Chris- tians. Like all anti-Semites — whether theological or Selectr:17 cultural or political — they ull knew the Jews were at the bott...…
…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Europe's M.E. Terms Listed WASHINGTON (ZINS) — A recent report in the Washington Post claims that the following are the principal features of the secret European Economic Community agreement on the Middle East: Israel will be acquired to withdraw from all territory occupied in 1967, including the Golan Heights and the Old City of Jerusalem; Jewish settlements in the "occupied territories" will have to be removed; a re...…
…8 THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Friday, February 27, 1981 f ORIENT PLUS Canard s Caribbean. HAWAII JOIN OUR GROUP DEPARTURES: 24 Days and 23 Nights • MAY 2 to MAY 25, 1981 • NOVEMBER 1 to NOVEMBER 24, 1981 Visit Cities: • TOKYO • NIKKO • KAMAKURA • HAKONE • MISHIMA • KYOTO • TAIPEI • HONG KONG • BANGKOK • SINGAPORE • HAWAII Join Our Group Departures on the Features Included: • Round trip GIT fare wide-cabin deluxe jets from Detroit. • F...…
…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Travel Unlimited presents: WORLD GATHERING \ OF J EWISH HOLOCAUST I SURVIVORS ISRAE L i51 [4, SPECIALLY CUSTOM DESIGNED TOUR For Friday, February 27, 1981 9 KOSHER PASSOVER TOURS APRIL 16-27, 1981 Your Choice of BARCELONA® or WALDMANS® Your Tour Includes: SHAARIT HAPLAYTAH ORGANIZATION Members, Relatives and Friends Join Rabbi Charles Rosenzveig at the WORLD GATHERING Of JEWISH HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS In ISRAEL ...…
…10 THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Friday, February 21, 1981 Neusner's 'Jewish War' Speech PASSPORT PHOTOS Echoed in Advance Reports In Living Color Color PASSPORT PHOTOS 2 for $695 Bostonians heard (read!) Prof. Jacob Neusner's speech, "The American Jewish Community — Mak- ing Some Sense of Our- selves," six weeks before he was to deliver it at Cong. Shaarey Zedek here this coming Tuesday evening. Ready while you wait bet-crest photo STUDIO...…
…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Friday, February 21, 1981 IE TAGAmm- MIAMI, FT. LAUDERDALE TAMPA/ST. PETE One-way, Night Coach Right now is the time to get your low, low fares to Florida— Delta's one-way Buy 'N Fly Discount Fareg. And there are no restrictions. Only $149 Day Tourist, $139 Night Coach, $169 Day First Class, $149 Night First Class to Miami, Ft.Lauder- dale, Tampa/St.Pete, Orlando/Walt Disney World, West Palm Beach, Jacksonville, ...…
…- 12 THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Friday, February 21, 1981 Haig, Shamir Nearing Accord on Talks LEISURE TIME TOURS INCL. AIR FARE FR NY NETANYA ISRAHS WIYIERAn$1565 EL AL faxes and tops 4 WEEKS-2 MEALS DAILY FULL TOURING • DAILY PROGRAMS Pius 10`o for NEW! 16 TOURING DAYS LEISURE TIME TOURS. 310 Madison Ave NYC 10017 State 1212 , 599.2323 • Out-ot-state 7011. F REE 800.223 2624 ISRAEL, EGYPT, GREECE BICYCLE • KIBBUTZ • 26-40-DAY TOU...…
…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS $600,000 Is Returned to Libya (Continued from Page 1) Department three weeks ago said the Libyan gov- ernment was "supporting a wide range of terrorist groups in every area of the globe" and arranged assas- sinations of dissidents abroad. Jewish organizations and individuals have com- plained to Georgetown Uni- versity since Libya made its original contribution and also have been critical of qeorgetown's acceptance of...…
…14 Friday, February 21, 1981 THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS GALLERY ESTATES AUCTION N CB 1\10 F:t-)c) t\I I Saturday, February 28 at 12 Noon Sunday, March 1 at 1 p.m. in our gallery ci C ALLED ScIPPO SuN DAC(' 77 o Clis IVE - 71:1 1 S HAN:E Z A R, Featuring 17th, 18th and 19th Century Antiques of every description From a prominent Bloomfield Hills Collector (name withheld by request). Mrs. Jeanette Skuller, Buffalo, N.Y.,.Irving Lundeen...…
…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Journalist Reminds of Israel's Benefits to Residents of the Administered Areas By CARL ALPERT HAIFA — There have been so many politically in- spired resolutions of con- demnation against Israel, so many fiery denunciations of Israel's alleged cruel pol- icy of repression against the Arabs both within its own borders and in the occupied areas of Judea and Samaria, so much repetition of falsifi- 'zation and manufacture...…
…16 Friday, February 27, 1981 THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Envoys Assess 'Normalization' TEL AVIV (JTA) — Far more Egyptians would like to come to Israel, as tourists out of curiosity or as businessmen to trade, than the Egyptian government is apparently prepared to allow, according to the Is- raeli Ambassador to Egypt Eliyahu Ben-Elissar. Speaking on a radio pro- gram marking the first an- niversary of the opening of the Israel Embassy in Cairo,...…
…Palestinians Are as Divided as Arabs Sisco Tells ZOA Leadership Meetings PHILADELPHIA (JTA) — A veteran diplomat and former Undersecretary of State told the national executive committee of the Zionist Organization of America Sunday that the Palestinians are as divided as the Arab states and that "there is no Palestinian leader who can speak and act for the broad majority of the Palestinian people and '-to can make an agree- - NEED IN V ITA...…
…18 Friday, February 21, 1981 THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Alawis Seek Israeli Citizenship HURRY! BEFORE TIME RUNS OUT J. GOLAN HEIGHTS (JNI) — Over half of the 950 resi- Warsaw Prof at Yeshiva U. NEW YORK (JTA) — The non-Jewish head of Warsaw University's de- partment of ancient Near East and Hebrew studies is serving as visiting research professor at Yeshiva Uni- versity, where he is gather; ing material for new Polish-language books on the...…
…THE DETROIT JEWISH Mendelevich Says Attention Is Lacking for Jewish Prisoners in the Soviet Union viewers that he felt insuffi- cient interest was shown in prisoners of Zion while they languish in Soviet camps. He called for public action on behalf of the two non- Jewish participants in the Leningrad escape attempt, Yuri Fedorov and Aleksei Murzhenko, who; he said are still detained "in the most harsh conditions." He also mentioned Ida Nudel...…
…20 THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Friday, February 21, 1981 We Jews must not ap- point a leader in any com- munity without first con- sulting the people. —Talmud .FIRESTONE JEWELRY Wholesale Diamunas & Jewelry ' . Remounting Jewelry & Watch Repo'ling, SUITE 318 ADVANCE BLDG. 23077 Greenfield at 9 Mile (313) 557-1860 ■ 1111111111=1111110 4111=1111111 Resignation Tied to Yerida Issue their approach to "yerida." He recommended that a De- put...…
…Friday, February 21, 1981 21 THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Pianist Varani to Appear in Concert With the CSO Pianist Flavio Varani will be soloist with the Cen- ter Symphony Orchestra 3:30 p.m. March 8 in the Aaron DeRoy Studio Thea- ter of the main Jewish Community Center. He will perform Beeth- oven's Piano Concerto in C Major and Chopin's Con- certo in E Minor. Theme and Variations for String Orchestra by Julius Chajes Bribe Witness Hit TEL A...…
…22 Friday, February 21, 1981 THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Arab-Jewish Cooperation Rule of Thumb in Acre VIBRANT GROWING SYNAGOGUE in Conservative Jewish tradition seeks By LARRY STEVEN PRICE TEACHER/CANTOR to have teaching; Bar/Bat Mitzvah; and some Cantorial re- sponsibilities. Over 250 member families, near University of Tennessee; T.V.A., other scientific, educational, industrial and religious advantages. Duties to begin August 1981. Sala...…
…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS Friday, February 27, 1981 23 The Midnight Fury' by Historian-Author Susan Gross Exposes 'Lurid' Role of Queen Isabella in Inquisition NEW YORK — Queen Isabella is generally cre- dited with sponsoring Christopher Columbus's voyage of discovery to the New World and unifying the feuding provinces of Spain into a mighty empire. Less known is the ruthless monarch's role in master- minding one of the most vic- ious persec...…
…THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS 24 Friday, February 21, 1981 Director Discusses National Lampoon Project; Polanski Honored by L.A., Foreign Critics CG Productions Complete Sound & Light Show • Music • Lights • MC By HERBERT LUFT (Copyright 1981, JTA, Inc.) HOLLYWOOD — Henry Jaglom, director of two of the sequences in the four- part feature, "National Lampoon Goes to the For Parties of all Kinds • Bar & Bat Mitzva • Sweet Sixteens, etc Craig ...…
