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…Robert D. Stein, son of Mr. and Mrs. Sol I. Stein, of - 18225 Fairfield, was installed student president of the Bnai Brith Hillel Foundation at the Univer- sity of Michigan, at the annual honors and installation program held in its building Sunday. Formerly executive vice-pres- ident, Bob Stein has held sev- eral posts in the Foundation. His place has been filled by the election of Myron Eisenman, of 18965 Monica. Other Detroiters who will be ...…

…— THE DETROIT JEW ISH NEWS- 8 Friday, May JWB Division Leader to Address World Physicists Gather in Israel at Nuclear Parley Center's 25th Annual Meeting "The Challenge of the Future for the Jewish Community Center" will be the topic of group work and education ex- pert Sanford Solender, who will address the 25th • annual meet- ing of Detroit's Jewish Center. The program will take place at 8:15 p.m., June 2, at the Davison branch. Solende...…

…Four modern, fully equipped buildings, erected at a cost of $1,250,000, to serve the cultural needs of Israel's growing popu- lation, will be dedicated within the next three months by the America-Israel Cultural Foun- dation. They will provide facili- ties for four major aspects of the Foundation's program in Israel: music, art, archaeology and cultural integration of new immigrants. The structures — the Rubin Academy of Music, Jerusalem; Muse...…

…Wayne State University Dinner Tuesday to Honor Prof. Samuel M. Levin on His Retirement font Faculty and on His Appoaching 70th Bithday CO Detroit's most prominent edu- cator and one of the Jewish community's outstanding per- sonalities, Prof. Samuel M. Le- vin, will be accorded a distinct honor next Tuesday evening. Prof. and Mrs. Levin will be tendered a dinner by the uni- versity faculty on the occasion of his retirement, on the eve of his...…

…The following graduation tal. The graduations commit- a n d confirmation exercises tee includes Mr. Stein and have been announced by Re- Mesdames Gertrude Millman, ligious schools for Shavuot Betty Plavnick, Ethel Lurie. week: Betty Lui and Helen Samberg. United Jewish Folk Schools Evergreen Jewish Cong. con- will have their Shavuot cele- secration class of ten girls will bration at 4 p.m., today, at use the number ten as the the Hayim Greenbe...…

…Fri day, May 23, 1958 Boyarskys to See From Pulpit, Organ Loft, Tickton Fetes 25th Year in Impressive Style It was the youngsters who The regular temple choir was ers, Dr. Richard C. Hertz and After listening to better than dedicated the yearbook to him. Israel, Europe 2,500 sermons during his tenure augmented for the evening, and Rabbi David A. Baylinson. Tickton mentioned that he Tickton, in teaching the con- Cantor and Mrs. Rubin Boyar- a...…

…Shavuot, the season which marks the period when Moses received the law at Sinai, will be observed in our commun- ity, beginning Saturday eve- ning. The festival will continue in orthodox and conservative congregation on Sunday and at Yizkor services Monday, while in reform congregations Yizkor services will conclude the holiday on Sunday. Following is a schedule of sabbath and Shavuot services in our synagogues: Cong. Bnai Moshe Evening servic...…

…Fri day, May 23, 1958 — THE DETROIT JEWISH NEW S-14 MAX COHEN, Chicago busi- ness leader and philanthropist, has been chosen as the first re- cipient of the Kether Shem Toy (Crown of the Good Name) Awarz: of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of Amer- ica, created to honor meritorious service to Jewish education and traditional Judaism. Cohen will be presented the award at the UOJCA traditional annual na- tional dinner in New York on ...…

…DaYENU toolrmallw Wayne Professor Publishes Book BY HENRY LEONARD "They Gather ed at the tory at Wayne since 1954, Dr. River," the story of America's Weisberger has taught among RODEPI4 S HA LO Dr. Barnard L. Lieberman was great revivalists, by Dr. Ber- other courses in American his- elected president of Temple CA. \E:gEa nard A. Weisberger, of the tory, "The Jews in America Emanu-El, at the annual con- Wayne State University history 1654-1...…

…Fri day, May 23, 1958 — THE DETROIT JEWIS H NEWS- 16 All-Hebrew Program to Feature Kvutzah Israel Celebration Brevities George C. Kiba, manager of the transportation bureau of the Detroit Board of Commerce, will moderate the final panel discussion of the season for the HIGH SCHOOL INTERN A- TIONAL CLUB. "Transporta- tion" is the subject of the talk, to be heard at 7:30 p.m., Mon- day, at Parkman Branch Li- brary. Panelists will include Seym...…

…Joseph Leib, Theodor Herzl's Co-Worker, Has 85th Birthday Joseph Leib, the only known living Detroiter who worked with Dr. Theodor Herzl in the early days of the founding of the Zionist movement, will cele- brate his 85th birthday • next Thursday. Born May 29, 1873, in Jassy, • Romania, he was the youngest of • three children. His father, Chaim Leib, a towering man of 6'4", was one of the leading citizens of his community and the cantor of hi...…

…Friday, May 23, 1958 — THE DETROIT JEWI SH NEWS- 1 S Dr. Gerendasy Assumes Presidency Center Softball of Detroit District Dental- Society Dr. Samuel S. Gerendasy was officially elected president of the Detroit District Dental Soci- ety at the professional organiza- tion's annual meeting Thursday. As head of the 1,800-member Dental Society, Dr. Gerendasy brings almost 40 years of service to his chosen profession. He is the fourth Jewish dent...…

…omen's Mb activities Youth Education League will hold its annual installation of officers ceremony at 12:30 p.m., Wednesday, at Tam O'Shanter Country Club. Luncheon will be served. According to Mrs. Meyer Blatt, chairman, the program will be highlighted by an Israeli cantata, written, directed and enacted by members of the or- ganization. New officers, who will be in- ducted by Mrs. Ben Feldstein, a past president, are: Mesdames Joseph A. S...…

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…Emanu-El Confirmand 'At Home' on May 25 Temple Israel's Schedule of At Home Receptions Annual con; -nation serv- ices of Te,, Emanu-EI will be held Saturday eve- ning, May 24. An at home re- ception is planned the next day for the following Emanu- El confirmand: DIANE GAIL BACHMAN-, daughter of Dr. and Mrs. Morris E. Bachman, of 18284 Birchcrest, 8 to 11 p.m., May 28. No cards. HARRIET ANN BOOKSTEIN, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Harry W Bookste...…

…MRS. MANDELL SIMON In a candlelight ceremony April 20, at Beth Abraham Synagogue, Arlene Nachman, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Her- man Nachman, of Rutherford Ave., became the bride of Man- dell Simon, son of Mr. and Mrs. Jack Simon, of Tyler Ave. Rabbi Israel I. Halpern and Cantor Shabtai Ackerman officiated. The bride wore a floor-length gown of peau de soie, the slim, fitted bodice of which was ac- cented by a full skirt of paneled lace. It ex...…

…Choose Eight Young Men, Women Jewish Folk Chorus New Y or4 er to /Fed Two Detroiters in Spring Concert Hadassah Tourists' to Receive Annual -League Awards Slates The Jewish Folk Chorus, un- G a ry B e ?gni a n 'Jerusalem' Voyage the direction of Harvey An historic event was marked in New York on Monday when the SS. Jerusalem, the newest Zim Israel Navigation Co.'s Mediterranean passenger cruis- er, took off on its maiden voy- age from New Yor...…

…MISS WENDY BIDER Mr. and Mrs. Bennet Bider, of 3024 Cortland,. announce the en- gagement of their daughter, Wendy, to Murray M. Cooper, of the U.S. Naval Air Force, son of Mr. and Mrs. Louis J. Cooper, of 4023 Elmhurst. A Sept. 7 wedding is planned. r1111.0.100.1. ■ 14. ■ 41”44 ■ •• ■ 3 411111.1.1 ■ 410 ■ 0 gewry I v-Yn the Air! = I This Week's Radio and Television Programs of Jewish Interest WHERE IS THY BROTHER? Time: 9:30 a.m., Sunda...…

…Friday, May 23, 19 58 — THE DETR OIT JEWISH NEWS-26 List At Home Receptions for Beth El Confirmands Annual confirmation services of Temple Beth El will be held on Sunday morning, May 25. At home receptions will be held that afternoon and evening, unless otherwise noted, for the following Beth El confirmands: Mrs. Joseph J. Dubin, newly- elected president of the Women's Auxiliary of the Mai- monides Medical Society, will be installed into of...…

…Tales Out of School "The Youth of a Nation are the Trustees of Posterity."—Disraeli MISS HELENE PENN At a recent dinner party, Mr. and Mrs. Sol Penn, of Marlowe Ave., announced the engage- ment of their daughter, Helene Doris, to Merton J. Robbins, son of Mr. George Robbins, of Nor- wood Ave., Oak Park, and the late Mrs. Ann Robbins. A Jan. 3 wedding is being planned. Mumford Senior Elected to Retailing Club Office Mumford High School se...…

…Joel Sperka Wins JWV's Bale Post to Install Colman of Aug. 24 Wedding First Wayne U Attorney Albert Colman, new- commander of Pfc. President's Key ly-elected Joseph L. Bale Post, will be in- Nippersink Manor Plans Belles-Bachelor Holiday Miss Seskind Tells Nippersink Manor will hold a meet new friends and spend five "Belles and Bachelors Holiday," days in various activities, in- the week of June 29 to July 3, eluding get-acquainted parties, ...…

…United Hebrew Schools Adas president; Louis Berest and Nor- Shalom Branch PTA will hold man Leemon, vice - presidents their next meeting at 8:30 p.m., Theodore Cranitz and Emanuel Tuesday, at the synagogue. Stu- Feinberg, secretaries; and Mor- dents as well as parents are in- ris Bloomberg, treasurer. In- vited to the discussion, "The stalling officer is Mrs. Nathan Value of Higher Education." Starman. Two Midrasha students, Joel Recipients of...…

…cLAceirrn owl „,,,m A DVERTISEMENTS Liners accepted from responsible firms or individ- uals by Telephone up to 11 a.m., Wednesday. Dead- line for display classified ads is 4:30 p.m., Tuesday. Rates 10c a word, minimum charges $1.00, or $2.94 per collymn inch. CALL VErmont 8-9364 10-ROOMS FOR RENT Friday, May 23, 19 58 NICELY FURNISHED room for gen- tleman or lady in private home. Unlimited telephone. UN. 3-9765. OAK PARK WIDOW - own hom...…

…17—HOUSES FOR SALE HUNTINGTON WOODS 3 bdrm. and family rm. Colo- nial! 1st floor lay! New carpt! Pass hall! Big kitch! Stall show- er! Quick poss. Beaut. street! By appt. only. Mr. Williams. GROSS REALTY UN 4-3100 13420 W. 7 MILE MARK TWAIN-CURTIS SCHATTEN REALTY \ \ NR. 8 MILE RD. 3 bdrm. brk. ranch, lge. lot, garage, fenced and landsc., nr. Northland, gas ht., disposal, all tiled kit., compl. carptd. VE 6-5904. • , .• rm. ranch...…

…OAK PARK—$2300 DN. IMMEDIATE POSSESSION San Juan, 19193 Open 2 to 5 Sun. Brick 6 rm. ranch, only 3 yrs. old total price $15,500. TY. 6-7003 3-bedrm. and rear den, 2-car gar., English colonial. Priced to sell under $17,000. Edith Good- man. DI. 1-1540, VE. 8-0077. GROSS REALTY O Oak Park 25540 DUNDEE the . newest & most beautiful center ent. 3 bedrm. Col. Huge fain. rm., 14x24 liv. rm., full din. rm.. scr. terr. stall, carpets, drapes, ...…

…Tilehin-Aaron Starts 140 Homes in Bloomfield 17—HOUSES FOR SALE 17—HOUSES FOR SALE SAN JUAN AT OUTER DR. ROSEMONT 20534 OPEN SUN. 2-5 • Attractive 6-rm. bung. 2 bed- rms. up, 1 down, paneled rec. rm.. bar with hot and cold run. water. Lge. kit., gas lit., 1 1,4 brk. gar., trans., shops, school. Best buy. ONLY $14,500. Mr. Operman. Oak Pk.-2 Left 7-rm. F. brk. ranch. 3 bedrms. plus den. F.A. gas ht., solid dr., triple track alum. S&S, ca...…

…▪ Kenosha Builders to Open New Models 17—HOUSES FOR SALE 17—HOUSES FOR SALE Griggs 16261 MARLOWE 19911 OPEN SUN.. 2-5 Two new models, being con- structed by Kenosha Building - No. of Jas. Coz. Gorg. 6-rm. F. brk. ranch. Adorable liv. rm., Co., are now nearing comple- lge. din L, beaut kit., cor. pan- * * * tion in Oak Park, it was an- eled table spat., rec. rm. and nounced this week by Irving bar. Entire bsnit. tiled. Close to Outer Dr. ...…

…7 7— HOUSES FOR SALE 138 Cranbrook Cross Rd. S. FREE CARPETING DRAPES SODDED LAWN & BUSHES BASEMENT FLOOR TILED $4,000 worth of improve- ments installed in builders' model. Duplicate of this house located 8 doors away sold for $39,500 (without above listed improvements) lost year. We will now sell this builders' model plus the above listed improvements at the some price. This house has 4 bed- rooms, 2 1/2 baths, 2-car at- tached garage, ...…

…18666 OPEN SUN. 2-5 ;74 Z 1-i W in E. 8 E-4 W 1:4 Friday, May 23, 1958 W = E-4 ONLY $2500 dw.n!!! Take over this tremend. house-8 rms., 3 bdrms., kit., sep. brkfst. rm., den, rear lib., 3 baths, fin. rec. rm., carpt., drapes, 2-car gar. Must see today. GROSS REALTY UN 4-3100 Huntington Woods Make an offer. Owner asking $24,900. 3 bedrm., Eng. gas a:c. ht., new carpets & drapes, new kitchen, 1st lay. Best value in Huntington Woods. ...…

…Open 70-Home Project in Oak Park 26-LAKE PROPERTY FOR SALE COTTAGE for sale or rent. Year around rents bring $1.000. Call DI. 1-1573. LAKE FRONT summer home, fully furnished. 7 bedrooms, 2 baths, fireplace, golf course across the street, 2-car garage, located at Leamington. 36 Miles from bridge. Make appointment to see. Phone VE. 8-7245, VE. 6-62.56. Grand opening of a group of 10 ranch homes by the M & K Building Co. was announced this we...…

…1 Our Letter Box 1 Jews Urged to Wear 1 I Israel '10th' Emblem Former Detroiter Wm, Blumenthal Writes 'Question-Answer Book' Israel's Tenth Anniversary William R. Blumenthal will which he went into his research World Committee, in a special proclamation, urged every Jew be remembered as a former di- —these combine to make a good Phoebus Tuttnauer's humane Slaughter throughout the world, including rector of Keren Hayesod cam- book. Editor, ...…

…Monument Unveilings Tailor Dies After Beating; Robbed of $22 Obituaries fri Jacob Kogan, an 81-year-old The family of the late Isa- ALEX COHEN, 13233 La- tailor, who had operated a shop tt The family of the late Azre Salle, a resident of Lansing, dore Kowal announces the un- Burk announces the unveiling for 35 years in the basement of veiling of a monument in his of a monument in his memory Mich., for 65 years before corn- an apartment at ...…

…Prof. Comitnager. Sen. Lehman L'Instiee Frankfurter S Tend' Anniversary Israe Join in Acelaimitio, E DE TRO IT JEW ISH become en- the Jews, have not been the grow and to One of the great high- riched. It is this same na- ii Mumford uttered a strong pro- , least contributors to civlza- By Special Correspondent lights of the gathering was ture that is to me so striking test against the use of nuclear tion," he added. "Through Is- of The Jewish...…

…Eban's Factual Expose of Real Culprits in Middle East Aggressions Editorial, Page 4 Incident in Ottawa and the Life Articles THE JEWISH NEW A Weekly Review The New Israeli Ambassador to Canada of Jewish Events Michigan's Only English-Jewish Newspaper—Incorporating The Detroit Jewish Chronicle VOLUME XXXI — No. 25 aaaf:kao 27 17100 W. 7 Mile'Rd. — VE 8-9364 — Detroit 35, August 23, 1957 Commentary, Pg. 2 $5.00 Per Year; Single Co...…

…Friday, Aug ust 23, 1957 — THE DETROIT J EWI SH N EW S-2 Purely Commentary By PHILIP SLOMOVITZ Incident in Ottawa—and the Life Articles An international postal workers' conference is now in prog- ress in Ottawa, the beautiful capital of Canada. Postal problems are being studied and discussed here by representatives of postal systems from the entire world. We bumped into a Philippines' delegate to this conference at the Parliament Building,...…

…Teen-Ager Is Golf Champ JWV to Probe Shell Cl aims Before Instituting Boycott I DENVER (JTA) — Sanford (Sandy) Zisman, 17-year-old 64 tti Je 'ish high school student he e, recently became Colora- do' - junior golf champion. on the base which require Earlier, delegates went on Kraditor of New York, a past the United States Govern- national commander and chair- record as opposing the action of man of the JWV Foreign Af- the U.S. Senate in tac...…

…THE JEWISH NEWS Incorporating the Detroit Jewish Chronicle commencing with issue of July 20, 1951 Member American Association of English-Jewish Newspapers. Michigan Press Association. National Editorial Association Published every Friday by The Jewish News Publishing Co.. 17100 West Seven Mile Road, Detroit 35, Mich., VE. 8-9364. Subscription $5 a year. Foreign $6. Entered as second class matter Aug. 6. 1952 at Post Office. Detroit Mich., un...…

…Building Trades Council to Sponsor $100,000 Trade School in Israel Plans for construction of a_ is planned for 6:30 p.m., Sept. building trade school in Israel 12, at the Veterans Memorial in cooperation with the Hista- Building. drut were announced this week In announcing the project, by Andrew McFarlane, presi- McFarlane said, "The unity of labor'in all corners of the earth will be preserved and all efforts must be expended to strengthen la...…

…`Big Three' Action in Middle East tiro edby U. S. Anti-War Society Russian Guests Ask Questions 'Liquidation' "• Warning to Advertisers Beware of -Misrepresentation NEW YORK (JTA)—The So- • was "in accordance with inter- The-tactics of local neighborhood advertising bulletins cietv for the Prevention of national law" was hailed as "a c and of a couple of so-called national publications in solicit- hopeful sign." The Society VIENNA (JTA)—Di...…

…Due to the loss of a working day on Labor Day, there will be an earlier deadline for our issue of September 6. All copy for that issue must be in our hands at noon on Friday, Aug. 30. Why More ■ and More Folks ; Save The American Way! a Governor A. B. (Happy) Chandler of Kentucky (center, in dark suit) poses with Cap- tain Eliezer Acsel, Master of the Zim Lines' newest luxury passenger liner, Theodor Herzl, on the bridge of the vessel p...…

…to O-W Young Israel LDoubles Capacity Young Israel Center of Oak- 4 - THE D ETROIT J E1 = Woods has set aside a period beginning Wednesday and ex- tending through Sept. 2 for reg- is tration of children in its He- brew, Sunday and nursery schools. According to Max Nusbaum, president, the schools will open on Sept. 8 with greatly expand- ed facilities. During the summer, the con- gregation has been undertaking an overall expansion program. Wh...…

…Bnai Moshe Plans Auxiliary, Suburb Holy Day Services Plans are now being made by Cong. Bnai Moshe for its High Holy Day services, to be held Sept. 26 and 27 and Oct. 5. In addition to regular services in the main sanctuary, there will be supplementary and suburban services. The supplementary services will be held in the social hall of the Dexter and Lawrence congregation. Rabbi Emanuel Applebaum and Cantor A. A. Rosenfeld will officiate. Dr. ...…

…• Freed Sailor Tells U. S. Catholic Oro- an Voices Charges Publish Fact ooks .Bonn Confirms Delay in Israel Relations L) of Mistreatment . Against Jews While Praising Judaism on Traffic A h cidents BONN, (JTA)—The question Two excellent affic accident a TEL AVIV, (JTA)—Raphael fact books have j st been pub- of establishment of normal dip- I I , , NEW YORK, (JTA) — The , tory; they may not realize it, Eylon. the Israeli seaman de- tanned f...…

…In Lighter l'ein Advance Farm Development I srael to Promote ititArab-Israe l Series of Industrial Enterprises By JACOB RICIIMAN An AJP Feature The Philosopher's Destination The German-Jewiih philoso- pher, Moses Mendelssohn, was an intimate friend of Frederick the Great. Once, while promenading on "tinter Den Linden," the chief thoroughfare in Berlin, the King met his learned friend. After saluting, each other the monarch asked his Jewis...…

…Friday, August 23, 19 57 — THE DETR OIT JE WISH NEWS-1 2 Israel Alerted By Syrian Troops Moving at Tiberias Israel Editor Says, U.S. Holds Only H ope for ME Peace From Detroit, Grab went to The United States carries the I vakia, and educated at the Uni-; only Western hope of bringing versity of Prague, Grab has Chicago for a tour through the ! a peace settlement to _the been active in the newspaper Middle West and out to Cali- not mean that...…

…LORD BUFFET Thursday, Friday, Saturday, August 22, 23, 24 8926 W. 7 MILE AT WYOMING KOSHER STYLE RESTAURANT Complete With Table Service BEEF BUFFET For Your Luncheon and Dinner You'll Find Pleasure and Convenience in the • CORNED BEEF • HOT DOGS • PASTRAMI • SALAMI FINEST BEEF AVAILABLE EXPERTLY AGED DELICIOUSLY PREPARED COMPLETE A Taste Treat You'll Never Forget! FINEST COUNTER SERVICE Serving Nationally Known Brands DELIGHTFUL...…

…Fr iday, Aug ust 23, 19 57 — TH E DET R OIT J EW I SH NEWS-1 4 Chajeses, Back from Concert Tour, Thrilled at Reception in Europe Interlochen Honor Carol Rosenbaum Wed Carol Fenwick Wins Top Hart thrilled her almost as Carol Fenwick, announced last week as one of five win- much as winning the competi- to Fred J. Pollack tion, she said. ners in recent concerto audi- tions at the National Music Returning last week from their , remember Lieberm...…

…Miss Pzysner Wed to Gilbert C. Osnos MRS. GILBERT C. OSNOS Before an altar banked with yellow and white mums and daisies and trailing vines of string smilax, Margaret Pays- ner repeated nuptial vows on Aug. 18 with Gilbert Charles Osnos. The double - ring ceremony was performed by Rabbi Mor- ris Adler in the home of the bride's parents, Dr. and Mrs. Harry Aaron Paysner, of Birm- ingham. The bridegroom is the son of Mr. and Mrs. Herman Osnos,...…

…• U) Et: activities in Society Steven I. Victors on Honeymoon Cruise Mr. and Mrs. Samuel Pinkis, of Condon Ave., Oak Park Music Study Club to Host Israeli Radio Director law, Dr. and Mrs. Norman (Edythe) Lowell, and grandsons, ra1 Bruce and Craig, of Oakland, Calif. Here with them is a nephew, Duane Paul, of San Mateo, Calif. -) SAM ROSENBLAT Mr. and Mrs. Kenneth Molitz have returned from Chicago, Ill.. where they resided while Mr. Mo...…