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Vol. XIV, No.23.
ANN ARBOR, MICHIGAN, SATURDAY, OCTOBER 25, 1913.
PRI E FIVE
ON WET FIELDI
Coach Yost Declares Muddy Grounds
Cause Good and Bad1
Teams to Look
WOLVERINE LINEUP IS GIVEN
LIGHT WORK ON DUDLEY FIELD
(Special to The Michigan Daily.) I
NASHVILLE, TENN., Oct. 24.-With
Dudley field a veritable sea of mud,
Michigan and Vanderbilt will battle to-
morrow afternoon on a gridiron that,
according to the veterans of the Wol-
verine eleven, closely resembles the
slippery field on which Michigan bow-
ed to Syracuse last season.
After looking at the Dudley field grid-
iron today in a rain which began fall-]
ing Thursday morning and had not
abated late this afternoon, Coach Yost
declared that a good and a bad teamnj
looked alike on a wet field, but that he,
expected Michigan to win, neverthe-
Vanderbilt supporters, however, are;
exactly the opposite opinion. The Com-
modore supporters state that Michigan;
cannot win, and that it is doubtful if
the Wolverines will score against the,
Yellow Jackets. In other words Van-
derbilt students are confident of a tie
game or better, and are backing their
beliefs with hard cash in the odds of
three to five that Michigan does not'
Coach McGugin's team averages on-4
ly 166 pounds, but the line averages an
even 200 pounds and the Michigan men
are not expecting any walkaway.Coach
Yost has announced his lineup, andt
this afternon he sent the eleven men
selected to start through a light work
out on Dudley field in suite of the rain.i
RETURN OF MICHIGAN TO
UPON SETTLEMENT OF BUT SIX
MEET 017 '906
PRO VES CRISIS
The Michigan-Conference difficulties
date back for a beginning in 1906, when
a conference of representatives of the
large western universities, was called
by President James B. Angell. Pro-
fessor A. H. Pattengill represented the
University of Michigan at the two
meetings of the presidents' representa-
I tives, which were held in Chicago on
January 19, 1906, and March 9, 1906.
Rules were suggested at this time, but
final action was delayed until the vari-
ous recommendations were submitted
to the separate universities for adop-
tion. The recommendations were sub-
mitted with the, "Conference recom-
mendation that in case these changes
did not meet with acceptance, as the
only alternative, suspension of inter-
collegiate football for a period of two
years." This was considered neces-
sary because of the abuses that had
grown up at the various institutions
and the criticism that was directed at
college sports, both by the general
public and in the institutions them-
On March 9, 1906 the representatives
reassembled in Chicago. The recom-
mendations of the first meeting were
then considered in order and passed
upon. The three resolutions, that fin-
ally resulted in Michigan's withdrawal
were as follows:
2. "That no student shall participate+
in intercollegiate athletics for more
than three years in the aggregate." '
To be effective September 1, 1906.
4. "That no more than five games of
intercollegiate football shall be pIaved1
REAL DIFFERENCES ARE *
SET FORTH A S FOLLOWS
I. Training table, i. e. the payment by the Michigan Athletic association
of the excess above $4.00 for the candidate:' board.
2. Freshman team competition, i. e. playing with teams outside their own
3. Home rule, i. e. the Michigan Regents have demanded that the central
government of the Conference shall have only the powers that are expressly
delegated to it by a unanimous vote of the members of the Conference.
4. Faculty Control. In the Conference universities this means that the
faculty or the President of the University must have, at least, a veto power
over the board, which contains student or alumni representation. It is not
necessary that the faculty have an initiative power of legislation.
5. Appointment of Coaches. At M ichigan the coaches are appointed by
the Board in Contorl after advisement with and consent of the President of
the University. Under Conference rules, "No coach shall be appointed except
by the university governing bodies, upon the recommendation of the faculty
or presi.ent, in the regular way and at a moderate salary."
6. Pr liminary Training. At the Conference universities there can be no
preliminary training before September 20. Preliminary training. starts at
Michigan two weeks before the opening of the university session. (The uni-
versity seldom opens before october 1.)
TO GET BACK INTO THE CONFER-3ICHIGAN CAN GO BACK INTO THE
ENCE )ICIIGAN MUST GIVE UP:
].. Local control of athletics to Con-
ference representatives. This rests up-
on the principle that nine great west-
ern universities have found it neces-
sary to combine in protecting amateur
college sports, instead of leaving this
question, as has Michigan to the juris-
diction of single, isolated governing
2. Competition of fresh teams with
3. Training table, i. e. payment of
excess over $4.00 per week by Athletic
4. Alumni and student control for, at
least, a veto power vested somewhere
in the faculty.
5. Start preliminary training on Sep-
tember 20, rather than two weeks be-
fore the opening of the university ses-
6. Change the selection of the coach-
es from the Board in Control of Athlet-
ics to the appointment upon the rec-
ommendation of the President or the
faculty. The Michigan coaches, how-
ever, have never been appointed with-
out the sanction of the President.
CONFERENCE AND HAVE:
1. Eastern relations, in track, base-,
ball and football.
2. A seven game football schedule,
with what universities she pleases.
3. Twelve baseball games with Con-
ference teams and with no limit on
number of outside games.
4. The present coaches and the pres-
ON NOV. 3R
** * * * * * *
VOTE ON CON 'EIRENCE QUES-
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Voter: Students, faculty, and
S alumni. Each allowed one
a Question: "We petition the Re-
* gents of the University of
* Michigan for an unconditional
* return to the Conference."
" Vote: Unqualified, "yes" or "no."
Method: Student: sign nam
and class on back of athletic
coupon number 35.
SFaculty and Alumni: Any sign-
Time: Monday, Tuesday, and
Wednesday, November 34, and
5, 8:00 a. m. to 6:08 p. n;n.
Places: Ballot boxes will be lo-
cated as follow Michi an
Union, The Miemigan Daily, ~
Waterman and l3arbour gym-
nasiums, University hail, En-
gineering building (2), Law
building (2), conomics build-
ing, General library, Chemical
building, Medic building, Den-
tal building, and Huston l'ros.
,Judges: Maurice .Myers,. anti-
conference; Maurice Touime,
pro-conference Dr. A.G. Hall,
This board will count and tab-
ulate all ballots, rejecting those
which are not in strict accord-'
ance with the regulations.
Purpose:This is an earnest, con-
scientio s effort to ascertain
the real sentiment of the stu-
dents, faculty, and alumni.
No one can conscientiously
vote until he has familiarized
himself with the issues.
A. G. HALL, Registrar. "
MAURICE MYERS, '1l-'14L.'
MAURICE TOULME, '12-'14L.
* * * * * * * * *
President lutchins Announces 1
G ditorium Will Be Used for
All Large Student
* EARLE HiOORIE'S SELECTION
* GIVEN FIVE MINUTE OVATF
* Michigan met as a family yesterd
* for the first time in 43 years. Iri
spective of department or class, 5,(
* students and faculty members came
* gether beneath the Maize and BI
* vaults of Hill auditorium. Preside
* harry B. Hutchins, in a scholarly a
* dres, sounded the keynote of Michig
ideals in saying that the university
no place for a "dillettante."
* Facing and flanking the auditoriu:
* the students assembled by classes
* 4:00 o'clock. The faculties, in vari
caps and gowns, pased in review,
* they marched into the building.
a President Hutchins' devoted most
? his speech to the differentiating b
* tween scholastic and campus activith
* urging all to select both as universi
courses. He paid tribute to Presider
1Emeritus Angell andAelivered a me
Ssage of greeting from the latter. I
* urged student athletic activity and tI
importance of private endowment 1
Earle Moore used the bells and tI
echo of the Freize Memorial orga
with telling effect. The selection w
applauded by a five minute ovation.
The program included: Organ pr
lude, Professor Stanley; Invocatio
Rev. MAr. Barrett of the Prosbyteria
church; Address, President Hutchin
Organ selection, Earle Moore, '1
All of the men stood the trip well and by any team in any season."
appeared to be in good condition when 8. "There shall be no training table
the team arrived Thursday evening. or training quarters for any athletic
By way of entertainment, the Van- team."
ent coaching system.
5. A definite standing in athletics at
the end of the session.
A championship is always possible.
6. Competition with rivals that are
hers by nature and distribution of stu-
dents and alumni.
7. Competition with teams that are
under the same training and eligibility,
8. Basketball reestablished.
9. More track meets and more home
10. Can be host at big all western
11. More }frequent interchange of
friendly relations between student
derbilt students gave the Michigan
team a long automobile ride to the
home of Andrew Jackson this morning.
Tonight a big mass meeting, at which
Coach Yost and Captain Paterson were
to speak, was planned.
Coach Yost has announced Michi-
gan's lineup for tomorrow as follows:
Torbet, deft end; Raynsford, left
tackle; Traphagen, left guard; Captain
Paterson, center; Cochran, right guard;
Pontius, right tackle;Lyons, right end;
Hughitt, quarterback; Bastian, left
half; Quinn, fullback; Galt, right half.
M. A. MILLIGAN.
THREE CONCERNS LOAN AUTOS
FOR CLASS DEMONSTRA TION.
Three automobile models have been
loaned the class in motor construction,
by the Packard, H udson, and Ford
The Packard Automobile company
has loaned a $5,000 motor car of the
latest model. It is a seven passenger
machine and will be used by the de-
partment for road demonstration. The
,Hudson car is one of the latest motors
equipped with a Delco starting and
lighting system. The Ford Motor Car
company have also furnished one of
their latest engines and it will be plac-
ed on the floor the first of the week.
Seven motors are now on the floor at
the engineering building, and with the
arrival of the three new ones, it will
be necessary for the space, at first
alloted to the motor construction class,
to be extended.
In a letter on January 14, 1908, Mich-
igan formally withdrew from the In-
tercollegiate Conference. The with-
drawal was accepted at a Conference
meeting on June 6, 1908.
During the spring of 1906 Michigan
competed in the Conference track
meet at Evanston. In the autumn of
the same year, Michigan played its
last Conference game, against the Uni-
versity of Illinois. The Universities
of Chicago and Wisconsin cancelled
their Michigan games that had been
scheduled for 1906.
During the college year of 1906-1907
Michigan lived up to the Conference
rules strictly, but in the fall of 1907
a training table was established, under
Michigan's eastern relations began
in November of 1907 with Pennsylva-
nia and with the exception of the Min-
nesota games of 1909 and 1910 there
have been no athletic relations be-
tween the Conference universities and
the University of Michigan. Michigan
entered the first eastern track meet in
1907. Under the present rules three
year competition only is allowed. The
objection to the three year rules came,
not because of the rule itself but be-
cause of the retroactive feature, which
would have disqualified several Mich-
The issues since that time have
changed somewhat and are set forth in
The governing bodies of several of
the Conference universities have ex-
tended an, invitation, in answer to res-
FACLTY MEN WILL ADDRESS
VEIEIN 11-WEEKLY 1'EETIN(
Faculty members of the various d
partments will be invited to addre
the bi-monthly meetings of the mer
section of the Deutscher Verein. TI
decision was made at the first meetin
of the section Thursday evening.
Officers for the ensuing year wei
also elected at the meeting. They anc
president, Erwin Hartung, '14, vic
president, Reuben Peterson, '15, an
secretary-treasurer, F. F. Kolbe, '14.
The time for all regular meetin
has been set on Thursdays at 8: I
o'clock. The next meeting will be he
TO REPORT VANDY
RESULTS AT FIELD
Nashville Returns Will Be Announced
During All-Fresh Battle With
TEAM IS IiN FAIR SHAPE.
Three Juniors and One Sophomore
Class Hold Annual
Junior engineers, junior dents, jun-
Union Dance Tickets Sell Fast. f
More than 50 tickets have already
been sold for tonight's membership
dance at the Union. The remaining
number may be obtained at the desk
ior medic and sophomore medic classes
Though Michigan students are de- held elections yesterday. The junior
nied the pleasure of seeing the Maize engineers elected G. C. Abbott for
and Blue Varsity in action today, those track manager.
who attend the game between the All- The junior dents elected the follow-
1resh eleven and the team from Adrian ing officers: secretary, Lawrence A.
college, will have the privilege of the Sherry; treasurer, Warren P. Gibson:
next best thing-the hearing of play basketball manager, A. C. James; base-
by play returns from the Nashville ball manager, William C. Melvin; sar-
gridiron. geant-at-arms, B. W. Lathrop.
For the benefit of the Wolverine The junior medics elected officers as
football supporters, the Athletic asso- follows: vice-president, Lucile Elliot;
ciation has arranged to receive the re- secretary, Oliver Heidt; treasurer,
turns of the Vanderbilt battle after Carl Larson; football manager, E. E.
each play. During the staging of the Koebbe; basketball manager, Alonzo
Freshman-Adrian game, a man with a Smith; track manager, Nelson Milli
megaphone will keep the spectators in- baseball manager, William Vis; Chair-
formed as to just what the Varsity is man of social committee, W. R. Lillie.
doing in the southland. Soph medic class elected as fol-
The All-Fresh will probably line up lows: president, George Watt; vice-
Craven, 1 e; Finkbeiner, I t; Rehor, president, Helen Moore; secretary, W.
1 g; Nieman, c; Skinner, r g; Cerney, F. Watton; treasurer, Mary Fisher; I
r t; Huebel, r e; Ziger, q; Splawn, If; track manager, N. Becker. The candi-,'
Maulbetsch, f b; Calvin, r h. It is ex- dates for basketball and baseball man-'
pected, however, that others of the eger did not obtain majorities and so'
players will get an opportunity to play another election will be held next
before the contest is over. Tuesday morning from 10:00 to 10:15E
The Adran team was expected to ar- o'clock in the physiological building.
rive early this morning. The candidates for basketball manager
" -_-- --are: John O'Leary and Fred Currier
olutions submitted by'the Michigan Re- and for baseball manager are: E. G.'
gents, stating that Michigan would be Galbraith and William Ayres.
welcome into the Conference, but only Junior laws elected Lewis G. Christ-
according to Conference rules as they man for president Thursday. . Karl
now stand. ' Mohr withdrew before the contest.
WESTERN CONFERENCE QUESTION BO
(Editors Note-There are,mnany l Iatails of the dispute between the 1
tercollegiate Conference and Michigan which are not clear to the avera
student at Ann Arbor. A thorough k onledge of the situahton is necessa
to a competent discussion of fhlie quesm]i and the castng of a competent b
lot in the final voting. The Michigan ailly invites questions on most poill
and will endeavor to satisfactorily answer every query. The questions shov
be addressed to lbe Question Box Editor and must be short. The queri
must be signed with the name of the author, although- upon request the e
itor will sign the question with initials and class numerals.)
MICHIGAN NEEDS NEW AND MORE YELLS
Believing that one of the main rea- yells and will choose any that are
sons for the inefficiency of the Michi- adaptable for use on Ferry field. The
gan cheering system is the lack of suf- selection will be made before the Syra-
ficient yells, The Michigan Daily is to- cuse mass meeting and the new yells
day starting a competition for new tried out at that time. The date for this
yells. I meeting will be announced later.
A committee consisting of Professor Any one may enter this competition
Thomas C. 'Trueblood, of the oratory and an opportunity will be given for
department, author of the "locomotive" authors of new cheers to demonstrate
yell, Earl Moore, of the school of mu- them before the committee.
sic faculty, and Carroll B. Haff, Var- Address all communications to Cheer
sity cheerleader, will pass upon the Eidtor, care The Michigan Daily.
I. Will the re-entry of Michigan in
the Conference mean the loss of the
games with Cornell, Pennsy and the
rest and participation in the Eastern
Intercollegiate track. meet? A. V. B.
It will not. Michigan can play as
many games with eastern schools as
she shall elect. Illinois last year sent
a team to the Penn relay games. Chi-
cago played Cornell in football two
years ago. Michigan might decide to
cut down the number of games played
in the east to substitute contests with
western schools but this would not be
neecssary as the rule prescribing four
ganes each season with Conference
schools was rescinded at the last meet-
ing of the Conference.
11. "What is the justice, if there is
any, of the "Boycott Rule" which pire-
vents Michigan's p laying Conference I
M nhools when other universities are
gi'anted that right? L. B. '15L.
The 'so-called "Boycott Rule" was al
purely disciplinary measure intend<
to act against the other Conferenc
colleges. It was brought on when Mi:
nesota, during the dispute relative
the Michigan-Minnesota games in 190
and 1910, seemed about to follow th
lead of Michigan and withdraw fro
If Michigan were allowed, after a
bitrarily withdrawing from the Con
ference and attempting to bring abo
I breaking of its rules, all the benefi
of Conference competition, the othe
universities would see fit to do tl
same thing and the Conference won
have been immediately broken to pie
es. The Conference was organized fo
the promotion of purer college athle
ics obtainable only through united ac
tion. A disorganized combination I
schools such as would have resulte
had not the boycott against Michiga
been enforced,,would be powerless t
promote such athletic standards.