- 1 , ' I - he Michigan D.- F . ,,, ; = . i PI Vol. XIV, No.23. ANN ARBOR, MICHIGAN, SATURDAY, OCTOBER 25, 1913. PRI E FIVE VARSITY WILL STAGE BATTLE, ON WET FIELDI Coach Yost Declares Muddy Grounds Cause Good and Bad1 Teams to Look Alike. WOLVERINE LINEUP IS GIVEN LIGHT WORK ON DUDLEY FIELD (Special to The Michigan Daily.) I NASHVILLE, TENN., Oct. 24.-With Dudley field a veritable sea of mud, Michigan and Vanderbilt will battle to- morrow afternoon on a gridiron that, according to the veterans of the Wol- verine eleven, closely resembles the slippery field on which Michigan bow- ed to Syracuse last season. After looking at the Dudley field grid- iron today in a rain which began fall-] ing Thursday morning and had not abated late this afternoon, Coach Yost declared that a good and a bad teamnj looked alike on a wet field, but that he, expected Michigan to win, neverthe- less. Vanderbilt supporters, however, are; exactly the opposite opinion. The Com- modore supporters state that Michigan; cannot win, and that it is doubtful if the Wolverines will score against the, Yellow Jackets. In other words Van- derbilt students are confident of a tie game or better, and are backing their beliefs with hard cash in the odds of three to five that Michigan does not' win. Coach McGugin's team averages on-4 ly 166 pounds, but the line averages an even 200 pounds and the Michigan men are not expecting any walkaway.Coach Yost has announced his lineup, andt this afternon he sent the eleven men selected to start through a light work out on Dudley field in suite of the rain.i RETURN OF MICHIGAN TO WESTERN CONFERENCE DEPENDS'[ UPON SETTLEMENT OF BUT SIX CONVOCATION DRAWS ENTIR STUDENT DO DIFFERENCES MEET 017 '906 PRO VES CRISIS The Michigan-Conference difficulties date back for a beginning in 1906, when a conference of representatives of the large western universities, was called by President James B. Angell. Pro- fessor A. H. Pattengill represented the University of Michigan at the two meetings of the presidents' representa- I tives, which were held in Chicago on January 19, 1906, and March 9, 1906. Rules were suggested at this time, but final action was delayed until the vari- ous recommendations were submitted to the separate universities for adop- tion. The recommendations were sub- mitted with the, "Conference recom- mendation that in case these changes did not meet with acceptance, as the only alternative, suspension of inter- collegiate football for a period of two years." This was considered neces- sary because of the abuses that had grown up at the various institutions and the criticism that was directed at college sports, both by the general public and in the institutions them- selves. On March 9, 1906 the representatives reassembled in Chicago. The recom- mendations of the first meeting were then considered in order and passed upon. The three resolutions, that fin- ally resulted in Michigan's withdrawal were as follows: 2. "That no student shall participate+ in intercollegiate athletics for more than three years in the aggregate." ' To be effective September 1, 1906. 4. "That no more than five games of intercollegiate football shall be pIaved1 REAL DIFFERENCES ARE * SET FORTH A S FOLLOWS I. Training table, i. e. the payment by the Michigan Athletic association of the excess above $4.00 for the candidate:' board. 2. Freshman team competition, i. e. playing with teams outside their own institution. 3. Home rule, i. e. the Michigan Regents have demanded that the central government of the Conference shall have only the powers that are expressly delegated to it by a unanimous vote of the members of the Conference. 4. Faculty Control. In the Conference universities this means that the faculty or the President of the University must have, at least, a veto power over the board, which contains student or alumni representation. It is not necessary that the faculty have an initiative power of legislation. 5. Appointment of Coaches. At M ichigan the coaches are appointed by the Board in Contorl after advisement with and consent of the President of the University. Under Conference rules, "No coach shall be appointed except by the university governing bodies, upon the recommendation of the faculty or presi.ent, in the regular way and at a moderate salary." 6. Pr liminary Training. At the Conference universities there can be no preliminary training before September 20. Preliminary training. starts at Michigan two weeks before the opening of the university session. (The uni- versity seldom opens before october 1.) TO GET BACK INTO THE CONFER-3ICHIGAN CAN GO BACK INTO THE ENCE )ICIIGAN MUST GIVE UP: ].. Local control of athletics to Con- ference representatives. This rests up- on the principle that nine great west- ern universities have found it neces- sary to combine in protecting amateur college sports, instead of leaving this question, as has Michigan to the juris- diction of single, isolated governing boards. 2. Competition of fresh teams with outside institutions. 3. Training table, i. e. payment of excess over $4.00 per week by Athletic Association. 4. Alumni and student control for, at least, a veto power vested somewhere in the faculty. 5. Start preliminary training on Sep- tember 20, rather than two weeks be- fore the opening of the university ses- sion. 6. Change the selection of the coach- es from the Board in Control of Athlet- ics to the appointment upon the rec- ommendation of the President or the faculty. The Michigan coaches, how- ever, have never been appointed with- out the sanction of the President. CONFERENCE AND HAVE: 1. Eastern relations, in track, base-, ball and football. 2. A seven game football schedule, with what universities she pleases. 3. Twelve baseball games with Con- ference teams and with no limit on number of outside games. 4. The present coaches and the pres- BEGIN OTIN ON NOV. 3R ** * * * * * * VOTE ON CON 'EIRENCE QUES- * TiON * - .. Voter: Students, faculty, and S alumni. Each allowed one * vote. a Question: "We petition the Re- * gents of the University of * Michigan for an unconditional * return to the Conference." " Vote: Unqualified, "yes" or "no." Method: Student: sign nam and class on back of athletic coupon number 35. SFaculty and Alumni: Any sign- ed form. Time: Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, November 34, and 5, 8:00 a. m. to 6:08 p. n;n. Places: Ballot boxes will be lo- cated as follow Michi an Union, The Miemigan Daily, ~ Waterman and l3arbour gym- nasiums, University hail, En- gineering building (2), Law building (2), conomics build- ing, General library, Chemical building, Medic building, Den- tal building, and Huston l'ros. ,Judges: Maurice .Myers,. anti- conference; Maurice Touime, pro-conference Dr. A.G. Hall, mediator. This board will count and tab- ulate all ballots, rejecting those which are not in strict accord-' ance with the regulations. Purpose:This is an earnest, con- scientio s effort to ascertain the real sentiment of the stu- dents, faculty, and alumni. No one can conscientiously vote until he has familiarized himself with the issues. (Signed) A. G. HALL, Registrar. " MAURICE MYERS, '1l-'14L.' MAURICE TOULME, '12-'14L. * * * * * * * * * President lutchins Announces 1 G ditorium Will Be Used for All Large Student Dkse Mis. * EARLE HiOORIE'S SELECTION * GIVEN FIVE MINUTE OVATF *- - * Michigan met as a family yesterd * for the first time in 43 years. Iri spective of department or class, 5,( * students and faculty members came * gether beneath the Maize and BI * vaults of Hill auditorium. Preside * harry B. Hutchins, in a scholarly a * dres, sounded the keynote of Michig *- ideals in saying that the university no place for a "dillettante." * Facing and flanking the auditoriu: * the students assembled by classes * 4:00 o'clock. The faculties, in vari * caps and gowns, pased in review, * they marched into the building. a President Hutchins' devoted most ? his speech to the differentiating b * tween scholastic and campus activith * urging all to select both as universi courses. He paid tribute to Presider 1Emeritus Angell andAelivered a me Ssage of greeting from the latter. I * urged student athletic activity and tI importance of private endowment 1 graduates. Earle Moore used the bells and tI echo of the Freize Memorial orga with telling effect. The selection w applauded by a five minute ovation. The program included: Organ pr lude, Professor Stanley; Invocatio Rev. MAr. Barrett of the Prosbyteria church; Address, President Hutchin Organ selection, Earle Moore, '1 America; Benediction. I All of the men stood the trip well and by any team in any season." appeared to be in good condition when 8. "There shall be no training table the team arrived Thursday evening. or training quarters for any athletic By way of entertainment, the Van- team." ent coaching system. 5. A definite standing in athletics at the end of the session. A championship is always possible. 6. Competition with rivals that are hers by nature and distribution of stu- dents and alumni. 7. Competition with teams that are under the same training and eligibility, rules. 8. Basketball reestablished. 9. More track meets and more home track meets. 10. Can be host at big all western meets. 11. More }frequent interchange of friendly relations between student bodies. derbilt students gave the Michigan team a long automobile ride to the home of Andrew Jackson this morning. Tonight a big mass meeting, at which Coach Yost and Captain Paterson were to speak, was planned. Coach Yost has announced Michi- gan's lineup for tomorrow as follows: Torbet, deft end; Raynsford, left tackle; Traphagen, left guard; Captain Paterson, center; Cochran, right guard; Pontius, right tackle;Lyons, right end; Hughitt, quarterback; Bastian, left half; Quinn, fullback; Galt, right half. M. A. MILLIGAN. THREE CONCERNS LOAN AUTOS FOR CLASS DEMONSTRA TION. Three automobile models have been loaned the class in motor construction, by the Packard, H udson, and Ford companies. The Packard Automobile company has loaned a $5,000 motor car of the latest model. It is a seven passenger machine and will be used by the de- partment for road demonstration. The ,Hudson car is one of the latest motors equipped with a Delco starting and lighting system. The Ford Motor Car company have also furnished one of their latest engines and it will be plac- ed on the floor the first of the week. Seven motors are now on the floor at the engineering building, and with the arrival of the three new ones, it will be necessary for the space, at first alloted to the motor construction class, to be extended. In a letter on January 14, 1908, Mich- igan formally withdrew from the In- tercollegiate Conference. The with- drawal was accepted at a Conference meeting on June 6, 1908. During the spring of 1906 Michigan competed in the Conference track meet at Evanston. In the autumn of the same year, Michigan played its last Conference game, against the Uni- versity of Illinois. The Universities of Chicago and Wisconsin cancelled their Michigan games that had been scheduled for 1906. During the college year of 1906-1907 Michigan lived up to the Conference rules strictly, but in the fall of 1907 a training table was established, under cover. Michigan's eastern relations began in November of 1907 with Pennsylva- nia and with the exception of the Min- nesota games of 1909 and 1910 there have been no athletic relations be- tween the Conference universities and the University of Michigan. Michigan entered the first eastern track meet in 1907. Under the present rules three year competition only is allowed. The objection to the three year rules came, not because of the rule itself but be- cause of the retroactive feature, which would have disqualified several Mich- igan stars. The issues since that time have changed somewhat and are set forth in another column. The governing bodies of several of the Conference universities have ex- tended an, invitation, in answer to res- FACLTY MEN WILL ADDRESS VEIEIN 11-WEEKLY 1'EETIN( Faculty members of the various d partments will be invited to addre the bi-monthly meetings of the mer section of the Deutscher Verein. TI decision was made at the first meetin of the section Thursday evening. Officers for the ensuing year wei also elected at the meeting. They anc president, Erwin Hartung, '14, vic president, Reuben Peterson, '15, an secretary-treasurer, F. F. Kolbe, '14. The time for all regular meetin has been set on Thursdays at 8: I o'clock. The next meeting will be he November 6. TO REPORT VANDY RESULTS AT FIELD Nashville Returns Will Be Announced During All-Fresh Battle With Adrian Today. TEAM IS IiN FAIR SHAPE. SEVERAL CLASSES SELECT OFFICERS' Three Juniors and One Sophomore Class Hold Annual Elections. Junior engineers, junior dents, jun- Union Dance Tickets Sell Fast. f More than 50 tickets have already been sold for tonight's membership dance at the Union. The remaining number may be obtained at the desk today. ior medic and sophomore medic classes Though Michigan students are de- held elections yesterday. The junior nied the pleasure of seeing the Maize engineers elected G. C. Abbott for and Blue Varsity in action today, those track manager. who attend the game between the All- The junior dents elected the follow- 1resh eleven and the team from Adrian ing officers: secretary, Lawrence A. college, will have the privilege of the Sherry; treasurer, Warren P. Gibson: next best thing-the hearing of play basketball manager, A. C. James; base- by play returns from the Nashville ball manager, William C. Melvin; sar- gridiron. geant-at-arms, B. W. Lathrop. For the benefit of the Wolverine The junior medics elected officers as football supporters, the Athletic asso- follows: vice-president, Lucile Elliot; ciation has arranged to receive the re- secretary, Oliver Heidt; treasurer, turns of the Vanderbilt battle after Carl Larson; football manager, E. E. each play. During the staging of the Koebbe; basketball manager, Alonzo Freshman-Adrian game, a man with a Smith; track manager, Nelson Milli megaphone will keep the spectators in- baseball manager, William Vis; Chair- formed as to just what the Varsity is man of social committee, W. R. Lillie. doing in the southland. Soph medic class elected as fol- The All-Fresh will probably line up lows: president, George Watt; vice- Craven, 1 e; Finkbeiner, I t; Rehor, president, Helen Moore; secretary, W. 1 g; Nieman, c; Skinner, r g; Cerney, F. Watton; treasurer, Mary Fisher; I r t; Huebel, r e; Ziger, q; Splawn, If; track manager, N. Becker. The candi-,' Maulbetsch, f b; Calvin, r h. It is ex- dates for basketball and baseball man-' pected, however, that others of the eger did not obtain majorities and so' players will get an opportunity to play another election will be held next before the contest is over. Tuesday morning from 10:00 to 10:15E The Adran team was expected to ar- o'clock in the physiological building. rive early this morning. The candidates for basketball manager " -_-- --are: John O'Leary and Fred Currier olutions submitted by'the Michigan Re- and for baseball manager are: E. G.' gents, stating that Michigan would be Galbraith and William Ayres. welcome into the Conference, but only Junior laws elected Lewis G. Christ- according to Conference rules as they man for president Thursday. . Karl now stand. ' Mohr withdrew before the contest. WESTERN CONFERENCE QUESTION BO (Editors Note-There are,mnany l Iatails of the dispute between the 1 tercollegiate Conference and Michigan which are not clear to the avera student at Ann Arbor. A thorough k onledge of the situahton is necessa to a competent discussion of fhlie quesm]i and the castng of a competent b lot in the final voting. The Michigan ailly invites questions on most poill and will endeavor to satisfactorily answer every query. The questions shov be addressed to lbe Question Box Editor and must be short. The queri must be signed with the name of the author, although- upon request the e itor will sign the question with initials and class numerals.) MICHIGAN NEEDS NEW AND MORE YELLS Believing that one of the main rea- yells and will choose any that are sons for the inefficiency of the Michi- adaptable for use on Ferry field. The gan cheering system is the lack of suf- selection will be made before the Syra- ficient yells, The Michigan Daily is to- cuse mass meeting and the new yells day starting a competition for new tried out at that time. The date for this yells. I meeting will be announced later. A committee consisting of Professor Any one may enter this competition Thomas C. 'Trueblood, of the oratory and an opportunity will be given for department, author of the "locomotive" authors of new cheers to demonstrate yell, Earl Moore, of the school of mu- them before the committee. sic faculty, and Carroll B. Haff, Var- Address all communications to Cheer sity cheerleader, will pass upon the Eidtor, care The Michigan Daily. I. Will the re-entry of Michigan in the Conference mean the loss of the games with Cornell, Pennsy and the rest and participation in the Eastern Intercollegiate track. meet? A. V. B. 14L. It will not. Michigan can play as many games with eastern schools as she shall elect. Illinois last year sent a team to the Penn relay games. Chi- cago played Cornell in football two years ago. Michigan might decide to cut down the number of games played in the east to substitute contests with western schools but this would not be neecssary as the rule prescribing four ganes each season with Conference schools was rescinded at the last meet- ing of the Conference. 11. "What is the justice, if there is any, of the "Boycott Rule" which pire- vents Michigan's p laying Conference I M nhools when other universities are gi'anted that right? L. B. '15L. The 'so-called "Boycott Rule" was al purely disciplinary measure intend< to act against the other Conferenc colleges. It was brought on when Mi: nesota, during the dispute relative the Michigan-Minnesota games in 190 and 1910, seemed about to follow th lead of Michigan and withdraw fro the Conference. If Michigan were allowed, after a bitrarily withdrawing from the Con ference and attempting to bring abo I breaking of its rules, all the benefi of Conference competition, the othe universities would see fit to do tl same thing and the Conference won have been immediately broken to pie es. The Conference was organized fo the promotion of purer college athle ics obtainable only through united ac tion. A disorganized combination I schools such as would have resulte had not the boycott against Michiga been enforced,,would be powerless t promote such athletic standards.