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NO THAI
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chef and co-owner, Noerung Hang,
whose nickname is "No."
"(TSA students) are taking it
offensively, but we do not discrimi-
nate against anyone who comes into
our restaurant," Kim said.
Kim, along with two of the other
owners, is Korean. Fourth owner
and head chef Hang is Hmong, but
his family has been in the Thai food
industry for years.
Sarntivijai said the heritage of
the owners doesn't matter. She said
she would still be concerned even if
the owners of the restaurant were
Thai.
Kim said he was shocked to learn
that members of the Thai commu-
nity were offended by the name.
Upon learning about the letter, he
e-mailed Sarntivijai immediately
and requested a meeting. Kim said
he and the other owners wanted to
explain the name to TSA members.
After hearing the reasons for
the name. TSA offered "No's Thai,"
"Noe Thai!" and "No Thai!: by Mr.
No" as possible alternatives to the
existing name.
"They said that the name was not
discrimination and claimed that we
were overreacting," Sarntivijai said.
"We thought it was ridiculous, but
we understand that changing their
name would be difficult."
Kim said the name is essential to
his restaurant's success.
"This is the identity and name of
the restaurant," he said. He added
that changing the existing brand
would be unrealistic.
Instead, the No Thai! owners
offered to post a letter in the res-
taurant explaining the context of
the name.
Sarntivijai said that though the
letter explained the name, it did
not apologize to the Thai commu-
nity for what she said could be con-
strued as an insult.
Kim said he understood the
concerns, but the story behind the
name shouldn't be ignored.
"They're taking it out of context,"
he said. "There is no hostility or
discrimination implied. Of course,
I can see why someone would be
offended."
TSA member Yingluck Thongpe-
nyai said the context is irrelevant
and the name is still offensive.
"It's the name of the person, but
the first impression is that they're
saying 'No Thai people,'" she said.
"It seemed obvious that they didn't
care about the effect the name had
on Thai people."
Sarntivijai discussed TSA's con-
cerns about the name at the recent
Climate Matters conference, a Uni-
versity-sponsored forum held Nov.
5 at the Trotter Multicultural Cen-
ter for students to discuss their con-
cerns about campus atmosphere.
LSA senior Jim Schreiber said
he got Expect Respect, a Univer-
sity group that aims to ensure a
campus climate of acceptance and
diversity of which he is a member,
involved in the matter after hear-
ing Sarntivijai's concerns at the
conference.
TSA and Expect Respect have
since started the "No Taste Cam-
paign" to raise awareness of Thai
students' concerns. Part of the
campaign includes a Facebook.com
group, which, as of last night, had
98 members.
"We're not saying that we want
people to boycott," Schreiber said.
"We're trying to raise awareness.
However, when people become
aware of the issue, the end result
tends to be that they decide not to
eat there."
Kim said the restaurant has loyal
customers, including people of Thai
descent, who continue to eat at the
restaurant, which also has a loca-
tion on North Fourth Avenue.
He said the name was meant to be
a "clever play on words" and "some-
what ironic." He said the name was
meant to inspire curiosity in cus-
tomers - not because it is offen-
sive, but because it could mean the
restaurant doesn't serve Thai food,
even though it does serve Thai food
and the word "Thai" is prominently
displayed.
"We wanted a name to show that
we weren't some generic Thai res-
taurant," Kim said. "We wanted to
be unique."
But Schreiber said the name is
still troubling.
"It's an ambiguous name that
can be taken offensively," he said.
"Using nationality and ethnicity in
a negative way is a bad marketing
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gimmick."
Sarntivijai said that not all Thai
students are upset with the name.
She said most were puzzled, and
some were indifferent.
"To be honest, I'm pretty neu-
tral," said Kongkom Hiranpradit, a
College of Engineering senior and
TSA member. "I feel a little offend-
ed, but I don't really care. I think
the best solution would be for them
to make a slight change to a name
that is more clear."
Kim said he might change the
name if enough people are still
offended by it after they learn the
history of the name.
"If it turns out that people
understand the context of the
name and feel that we are doing
a true wrong, we would consider
changing the name, but I don't
feel that this is the case now," Kim
said. "It's not a statement - it's a
name."
CARR
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me, and I make the final deci-
sion."
When talking about qualities
for a successor, Martin joked he
wouldn't deviate much from the
current regime.
"If I had to replace Lloyd, I'd
want to clone him," Martin said.
After going 5-1 in his first six
games against rival Ohio State,
Carr is just 1-6 in his last seven
against the Buckeyes.
The Wolverines made a bowl
game each year under Carr's tute-
lage, but have just a 5-7 mark in
them.
Martin dealt with the rigors
of a high-profile coaching turn-
over last season when he hired
basketball coach John Beilein
after firing Tommy Amaker.
Like the basketball coaching
search, Martin is expected to
cast a wide net for potential
candidates.
Michigan's entire coaching
staff is under contract through
next season, something Martin
and Carr mutually agreed upon
as a way to bring stability to the
program.
If the new coach decided to go
a different direction with assis-
tants, Martin would have to buy
out the contracts of those leav-
ing.
Whoever fills in for Carr will
have big shoes to fill.
"It's not all about wins and loss-
es, but if you look at the overall
winning percentage at Michigan,
you'll see that he's improved it over
his 13 years," Martin said. "This is
the best program in the country
over a century. If we have to move
on, then I'm going to make certain
that whoever we bring in is some-
body that can sustain the record
that Lloyd has."
- Daniel Bromwich and Jack
Herman contributed to this report.
MEETING
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that Carr would retire at a press
conference on Monday morning
and have been answering ques-
tions from their friends and rela-
tives for weeks.
But Carr stepping down wasn't
something the older players
even considered when they first
stepped onto campus.
"It's something I didn't think
I'd have to go through, coming
in as a freshman," junior corner-
back Morgan Trent said. "The
talk really wasn't happening
when I was a freshman."
Players waited outside Carr's
office to talk to him after the
announcement. Right tackle
Steve Schilling said that some
gave Carr a hug and said good-
bye to the coach, who has been at
Michigan for 28 years.
"I feel like he did what was
right for him, and it's sad not
to be working with him again,"
running backs coach Fred Jack-
son said. "He's the best person
I've ever worked with, and I've
been with him for 16 years. So
that's how Ilook at it. He's a great
person, and Michigan will never
replace him in my mind."
Athletic Director Bill Martin
will likely begin his coaching
search immediately, but most
players said they don't have a
clue who would take Carr's posi-
tion. Some acknowledged that
they had heard rumors about
current Louisiana State coach
and former Michigan assistant
coach Les Miles returning to
Ann Arbor.
Carr didn't tell the players
why he was retiring - just that
it was time for him to go. Most
said he didn't need to give them
a reason.
"I don't know if the pressure
of the job wore him down, but
I know it's a very stressful job
being the head coach at Michi-
gan," Adams said.
Said wide receiver Adrian
Arrington: "He obviously doesn't
want to coach anymore. He's
had a great career, an excellent
career. People retire."
Adams said that although he
wished Carr had decided to stay,
he was glad the coach was doing
what was best for him.
"I hope he goes and chills
out somewhere," Adams said.
"Spends some of that money he's
got. Just have fun. I want him to
have as much fun as he possibly
can."
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ARIES
(March 21 to April 19)
You might feel strongly attracted to
someone today. Relationships with oth-
ers are not casual. You feel emotionally
intense and excited about things.
TAURUS
(April 20 to May 20)
You might be unusually assertive with
co-workers today; conversely, others
might get unusually bossy with you!
(Take it easy.)
GEMINI
(May 21 to June 20)
Your romantic passions are aroused
today. You might develop aucrush on
someone. If you are in a relationship,
you feel very strongly about everything.
CANCER
(June 21 to July 22)
You might want to get your way with
a family member today. Others might
see you as coming on a bit too strong.
It's just that you're excited about some-
thing and you want to see it done the
way you want to see it done!
LEO
(July 23 to Aug. 22)
You're unusually persuasive today.
You can teach, sell or market anythingto
anyone. You want to convince others to
agree with you.
VIRGO
(Aug. 23to Sept. 22)
You'll work hard to earn money today.
However, you will work just as hard to
spend it! You feel obsessed about doing
something in financial terms. Be careful
not to be too demanding.
LIBRA
(Sept. 23 to Oct. 22)
The spirit of compromise is hard to
achieve today. Bosses and power types
are demanding, and you are not in the
mood to cooperate. Someone will have
to give. It might be you.
SCORPIO
(Oct. 23 to Nov. 21)
You're not in the mood to hear other
people go on about their religious or
political beliefs. You have your thoughts,
and you intend to keep them. (Try to live
and let live.)
SAGITTARIUS
(Nov. 22to Dec. 21)
You're extremely enthusiastic about
getting groups or members or friends to
endorse your ideas today. You want
everybody to go along with what you
think is right. But they might not agree!
And so it goes.
CAPRICORN
(Dec. 22to Jan. 19)
Discord with others, especially bosses
and parents, can arise today because hid-
den tensions suddenly surface. You feel
you've been putting up with something
for too long.
AQUARIUS
(Jan. 20to Feb. 18)
You're set to rally the troops today.
You see a better way of doing things, and
you want others to agree. Tally ho!
PISCES
(Feb. 19to March 20)
Relationships definitely can heat up
today. This could be a romantic passion,
or it just could be a plain, old-fashioned
disagreement. Your choice.
YOU BORN TODAY You are both a
realist and arromantic. Ever the crusader,
you will always fight for reform. You
understand the use of power in the
world. Family is important to you. You
like to bring out the best in others. Work
hard to build or construct something in
the year ahead. Your rewards will soon
follow!
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