The Michigan Daily - michigandaily.com NO THAI From Page 1A chef and co-owner, Noerung Hang, whose nickname is "No." "(TSA students) are taking it offensively, but we do not discrimi- nate against anyone who comes into our restaurant," Kim said. Kim, along with two of the other owners, is Korean. Fourth owner and head chef Hang is Hmong, but his family has been in the Thai food industry for years. Sarntivijai said the heritage of the owners doesn't matter. She said she would still be concerned even if the owners of the restaurant were Thai. Kim said he was shocked to learn that members of the Thai commu- nity were offended by the name. Upon learning about the letter, he e-mailed Sarntivijai immediately and requested a meeting. Kim said he and the other owners wanted to explain the name to TSA members. After hearing the reasons for the name. TSA offered "No's Thai," "Noe Thai!" and "No Thai!: by Mr. No" as possible alternatives to the existing name. "They said that the name was not discrimination and claimed that we were overreacting," Sarntivijai said. "We thought it was ridiculous, but we understand that changing their name would be difficult." Kim said the name is essential to his restaurant's success. "This is the identity and name of the restaurant," he said. He added that changing the existing brand would be unrealistic. Instead, the No Thai! owners offered to post a letter in the res- taurant explaining the context of the name. Sarntivijai said that though the letter explained the name, it did not apologize to the Thai commu- nity for what she said could be con- strued as an insult. Kim said he understood the concerns, but the story behind the name shouldn't be ignored. "They're taking it out of context," he said. "There is no hostility or discrimination implied. Of course, I can see why someone would be offended." TSA member Yingluck Thongpe- nyai said the context is irrelevant and the name is still offensive. "It's the name of the person, but the first impression is that they're saying 'No Thai people,'" she said. "It seemed obvious that they didn't care about the effect the name had on Thai people." Sarntivijai discussed TSA's con- cerns about the name at the recent Climate Matters conference, a Uni- versity-sponsored forum held Nov. 5 at the Trotter Multicultural Cen- ter for students to discuss their con- cerns about campus atmosphere. LSA senior Jim Schreiber said he got Expect Respect, a Univer- sity group that aims to ensure a campus climate of acceptance and diversity of which he is a member, involved in the matter after hear- ing Sarntivijai's concerns at the conference. TSA and Expect Respect have since started the "No Taste Cam- paign" to raise awareness of Thai students' concerns. Part of the campaign includes a Facebook.com group, which, as of last night, had 98 members. "We're not saying that we want people to boycott," Schreiber said. "We're trying to raise awareness. However, when people become aware of the issue, the end result tends to be that they decide not to eat there." Kim said the restaurant has loyal customers, including people of Thai descent, who continue to eat at the restaurant, which also has a loca- tion on North Fourth Avenue. He said the name was meant to be a "clever play on words" and "some- what ironic." He said the name was meant to inspire curiosity in cus- tomers - not because it is offen- sive, but because it could mean the restaurant doesn't serve Thai food, even though it does serve Thai food and the word "Thai" is prominently displayed. "We wanted a name to show that we weren't some generic Thai res- taurant," Kim said. "We wanted to be unique." But Schreiber said the name is still troubling. "It's an ambiguous name that can be taken offensively," he said. "Using nationality and ethnicity in a negative way is a bad marketing Monday, November 19, 2007 - 7A gimmick." Sarntivijai said that not all Thai students are upset with the name. She said most were puzzled, and some were indifferent. "To be honest, I'm pretty neu- tral," said Kongkom Hiranpradit, a College of Engineering senior and TSA member. "I feel a little offend- ed, but I don't really care. I think the best solution would be for them to make a slight change to a name that is more clear." Kim said he might change the name if enough people are still offended by it after they learn the history of the name. "If it turns out that people understand the context of the name and feel that we are doing a true wrong, we would consider changing the name, but I don't feel that this is the case now," Kim said. "It's not a statement - it's a name." CARR From Page 1A me, and I make the final deci- sion." When talking about qualities for a successor, Martin joked he wouldn't deviate much from the current regime. "If I had to replace Lloyd, I'd want to clone him," Martin said. After going 5-1 in his first six games against rival Ohio State, Carr is just 1-6 in his last seven against the Buckeyes. The Wolverines made a bowl game each year under Carr's tute- lage, but have just a 5-7 mark in them. Martin dealt with the rigors of a high-profile coaching turn- over last season when he hired basketball coach John Beilein after firing Tommy Amaker. Like the basketball coaching search, Martin is expected to cast a wide net for potential candidates. Michigan's entire coaching staff is under contract through next season, something Martin and Carr mutually agreed upon as a way to bring stability to the program. If the new coach decided to go a different direction with assis- tants, Martin would have to buy out the contracts of those leav- ing. Whoever fills in for Carr will have big shoes to fill. "It's not all about wins and loss- es, but if you look at the overall winning percentage at Michigan, you'll see that he's improved it over his 13 years," Martin said. "This is the best program in the country over a century. If we have to move on, then I'm going to make certain that whoever we bring in is some- body that can sustain the record that Lloyd has." - Daniel Bromwich and Jack Herman contributed to this report. MEETING From Page 1A that Carr would retire at a press conference on Monday morning and have been answering ques- tions from their friends and rela- tives for weeks. But Carr stepping down wasn't something the older players even considered when they first stepped onto campus. "It's something I didn't think I'd have to go through, coming in as a freshman," junior corner- back Morgan Trent said. "The talk really wasn't happening when I was a freshman." Players waited outside Carr's office to talk to him after the announcement. Right tackle Steve Schilling said that some gave Carr a hug and said good- bye to the coach, who has been at Michigan for 28 years. 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