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Israeli peace drive: hanging ideas
How strong is the Israeli peace
movement? Strong enough to
-change ideas, perhaps, if not gover-
nments, according to Dan Amit,
one of the founders of the Commit-
tee Against the War in Lebanon.
Amit, who spoke on campus last
week for the New Jewish Agenda,
told Daily staff writers Julie Hinds
.and David Spak about the peace
movement's response to the in-
vasion of Lebanon and the massacre
-'of Palestinian refugees.
Daily: Meir Kahane recently came to
campus to express his view that the in-
vasion in Lebanon was good, but wasn't
enough. He says his movement has
great underlying strength in Israel.
What do you think is the strength of
Kahane compared to the peace
Amit: I think the strength of the
Kahane movement is insignificant.
That's not to say he isn't a danger. At
one point we thought Begin wasn't a
danger to our political system. Then he
became prime minister.
The peace movement's strength is
very hard to gauge. One sees a demon-
stration of 400,000 people, probably the
largest demonstration in history, with
10 percent of the population protesting
against the war.
The movement has two parts. One
part is Peace Now, which is pretty am-
bigious, introverted, wanting to preser-
ve Israeli morality. But it does not
propose political solutions. Then there
is the group I belong to, the Committee
Against the War in Lebanon, which
takes political positions on the war
issues. We see this war as an attempt to
foreclose a possible solution to the
Daily: What are the practical aims of
the Committee Against the War in
Amit: We unconditionally oppose the
occupation, annexation, and settlement
of West Bank territories and so on. We
conceive of what is a reasonable basis
for a solution, the creation of two states
in the area of Palestine, which is west of
the Jordan River along the '67 borders.
We recognize the PLO as the represen-
tatives of the Palestinians. We are
willing to go into activities which in-
volve confrontation with the authorities
which involve solidarity with the
Palestinians to the extent that the
government is trying to destroy their
institutions in the occupied territories.
Daily: Prime Minister Begin has
faced crises before and always seemed
to weather them. Now that things have
quieted down about the invasion and the
massacre, do you think Begin will
emerge successfully from this crisis?
Amit: He may. It's a touch and go
question. There's nothing constitutional
which will force him out, whatever the
conclusion of the investigative commit-
tee on the massacre will be.
Our main problem at this stage is not
a change of regime. It's a change of
ideas. That's what the war is about.
That's what our movement is about.
The war was an attempt to ignore
facing the idea that there is another
national movement within our borders.
Our work is the exact opposite. We want
to force that question back onto the
Daily: In the struggle of ideas, as you
call it, Prime Minister Begin has been
very emotional on the whole issue of the
invasion, referring back to the
Holocaust as justification for the gover-
ment's actions. Is that fair?
Amit: Begin has been doing this, and
a number of people object to this
misuse of the association. Obviously
there's nothing in the situation which
justifies such comparisons. It doesn't
justify immoral atrocities and that's
what he's trying to do with it. He's
trying to use this horrible event in the
history of the Jewish people to sort of
placate people about the absolutely
immoral acts being committed by his
Daily: Jacob Timmerman recently
came out with a book that's critical of
the invasion. He compares the treat-
ment of Palestinians to the historical
persecutions of Jews. Is that com-
Amit: The book has made a large im-
pression, moreso here than in Israel. If
one compares the fate of Palestinians
right now to the fate of Jews under the
Nazis, then I think it's unfair. As far as
for other examples, I think the
Palestinians are worse off now than the
Jews were in many other places. It's
unacceptable in a modern, liberal
world. It's going to lead from one
catastrophe to another.
Daily: What do you think of the
American press interpretation of the
Amit: The American press was
probably at one of its lowest moments
since the early stages of the Vietnam
war. The press, such as The New York
Times, The Washington Post, has done
a tremendous disservice in not giving a
proper description of the war. I would
claim it did so in favor of not letting
Israel's image get too tarnished.
Daily: Did it underplay internal
Daily Photo by DEBORAH LEWIS
Amit: "Did you see an interview with a Palestinian from the camps after
the massacre? Never."
Amit: It underplayed internal
protest. It underplayed the. political
meaning of what happened. It under-
played the voice of the victims. Even
when protest was recorded, it was
always by Israelis. Did you see an in-
terview with a Palestinian from the
camps after the massacre? Never.
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LETTERS TO THE DAILY:
Student responses to the NR review
To the Daily:
In an article in the Daily
("Frye gets NR protest letter,"
Jan. 15), Mary Ann Swain,
chairwoman of the Budget
Priorities Committee, stated that
natural resources students, have
had nine months to develop their
case on the school's budget
review. Considering this
statement, it is not unreasonable
to wonder where Ms. Swain has
dwelled the past year.
The chairwoman might not be
aware that natural resources
students mobilized immediately
upon the announcement of the
review last year. But surely she
must have noted the April Regen-
ts meeting swelled with School of
Natural Resources speakers and
During the summer months
students and faculty are effec-
tively dispersed. So natural
resources students only had the
first three months of the fall term
to start organizing again.
Once more students gathered
to voice their support of the
school in two public hearings,
while continuing to meet
together, deciding-how to direct
Finally, the student response to
the review obviously could not
have been developed until now,
after the release of the budget
Working under a severe
deadline, several graduate and
undergraduate students met
during Christmas break and
began writing a response to the
budget committee's recommen-
Now the ball is in Vice
President Billy Frye's court.
Hopefully, he will find the
Otherwise, we may all find out
how deaf the administration truly
turns out to be.
School of Natural Resources
To boo or not to boo
Krell barks up wrong tree
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To the Daily:
Wow, wow, wow! C. E. Krell
does it again (Weekend,
"Barking Heads," Jan. 14). His
preview of the Bow Wow Wow
concert was his usual inane
It was even worse than his
Peter Gabriel review.
About half the article consists
of his articulate statements about
their name and how it relates to
Because of lines like "say it
you send C. E. Krell to Lo ndon so
he can write gossip for the New
Musical Express. He would be
perfectly content being with all the
other pompous asses on their
staff and we would save the
Then I could take his spot on
the Daily staff and write com-
prehensive articles and reviews
on new music bands. Then
everyone would be happy.
If every student at the Univer-
sity donated a nickle to the
"Transfer of Krell" Fund, we
To the Daily:.
I would like to comment briefly
on a Jan. 13 letter in the Daily
regarding fan response to Dan
The letter, submitted by S. M.
Johnson, said that U of M fans
have been ignorant in their
recent treatment of Michigan
guard Dan Pelekoudas by booing
each time Coach Bill Frieder
sends the junior into the game.
As was stated in the article,
Bobby Knight, head basketball
coach at Indiana University, goes
onto the public address system
whenever any of his Hoosiers
receive this treatment. Bobby
Knight has gained the respect of
everv knowledgeable basketball
result in a more negative reac-
tion from the fans.
Mr. Johnson, if you have wit-
nessed any of Michigan's games
this season, you would see why
both Coach Frieder and the fans
do not want to see Dan
Pelekoudas on the court with a
game on the line. He played con-
sistently last year.
The fans expect at least the
same this year and obviously
have been disappointed. Until
Dan's play picks up, he will con-
tinue to ride the bench.
The fans pay good money to see
the team play and the coach has
the responsibility to field his best
team. This does not include
Pelekoudas at this time. Giving
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