I OPINION Page 4 Wednesday, January 19, 1983 The Michigan Daily Israeli peace drive: hanging ideas 4 How strong is the Israeli peace movement? Strong enough to -change ideas, perhaps, if not gover- nments, according to Dan Amit, one of the founders of the Commit- tee Against the War in Lebanon. Amit, who spoke on campus last week for the New Jewish Agenda, told Daily staff writers Julie Hinds .and David Spak about the peace movement's response to the in- vasion of Lebanon and the massacre -'of Palestinian refugees. Dialogue Daily: Meir Kahane recently came to campus to express his view that the in- vasion in Lebanon was good, but wasn't enough. He says his movement has great underlying strength in Israel. What do you think is the strength of Kahane compared to the peace movement? Amit: I think the strength of the Kahane movement is insignificant. That's not to say he isn't a danger. At one point we thought Begin wasn't a danger to our political system. Then he became prime minister. The peace movement's strength is very hard to gauge. One sees a demon- stration of 400,000 people, probably the largest demonstration in history, with 10 percent of the population protesting against the war. The movement has two parts. One part is Peace Now, which is pretty am- bigious, introverted, wanting to preser- ve Israeli morality. But it does not propose political solutions. Then there is the group I belong to, the Committee Against the War in Lebanon, which takes political positions on the war issues. We see this war as an attempt to foreclose a possible solution to the Palestinian problem. Daily: What are the practical aims of the Committee Against the War in Lebanon? Amit: We unconditionally oppose the occupation, annexation, and settlement of West Bank territories and so on. We conceive of what is a reasonable basis for a solution, the creation of two states in the area of Palestine, which is west of the Jordan River along the '67 borders. We recognize the PLO as the represen- tatives of the Palestinians. We are willing to go into activities which in- volve confrontation with the authorities which involve solidarity with the Palestinians to the extent that the government is trying to destroy their institutions in the occupied territories. Daily: Prime Minister Begin has faced crises before and always seemed to weather them. Now that things have quieted down about the invasion and the massacre, do you think Begin will emerge successfully from this crisis? Amit: He may. It's a touch and go question. There's nothing constitutional which will force him out, whatever the conclusion of the investigative commit- tee on the massacre will be. Our main problem at this stage is not a change of regime. It's a change of ideas. That's what the war is about. That's what our movement is about. The war was an attempt to ignore facing the idea that there is another national movement within our borders. Our work is the exact opposite. We want to force that question back onto the agenda. Daily: In the struggle of ideas, as you call it, Prime Minister Begin has been very emotional on the whole issue of the invasion, referring back to the Holocaust as justification for the gover- ment's actions. Is that fair? Amit: Begin has been doing this, and a number of people object to this misuse of the association. Obviously there's nothing in the situation which justifies such comparisons. It doesn't justify immoral atrocities and that's what he's trying to do with it. He's trying to use this horrible event in the history of the Jewish people to sort of placate people about the absolutely immoral acts being committed by his orders. Daily: Jacob Timmerman recently came out with a book that's critical of the invasion. He compares the treat- ment of Palestinians to the historical persecutions of Jews. Is that com- parison justified? Amit: The book has made a large im- pression, moreso here than in Israel. If one compares the fate of Palestinians right now to the fate of Jews under the Nazis, then I think it's unfair. As far as for other examples, I think the Palestinians are worse off now than the Jews were in many other places. It's unacceptable in a modern, liberal world. It's going to lead from one catastrophe to another. Daily: What do you think of the American press interpretation of the invasion? Amit: The American press was probably at one of its lowest moments since the early stages of the Vietnam war. The press, such as The New York Times, The Washington Post, has done a tremendous disservice in not giving a proper description of the war. I would claim it did so in favor of not letting Israel's image get too tarnished. Daily: Did it underplay internal protest? 4 A Daily Photo by DEBORAH LEWIS Amit: "Did you see an interview with a Palestinian from the camps after the massacre? Never." 4 Amit: It underplayed internal protest. It underplayed the. political meaning of what happened. It under- played the voice of the victims. Even when protest was recorded, it was always by Israelis. Did you see an in- terview with a Palestinian from the camps after the massacre? Never. Dialogue is a weekly feature of the Opinion Page. Sinclair Edited and managed by students at The University of Michigan Vol. XCIII, No. 89 420 Maynard St. Ann Arbor, MI 48109 Editorials represent a majority opinion of the Daily's Editorial Board Don't note Bartleby's i A N ENTERPRISING student has come up with an idea that looks like a golden opportunity for his classmates.t The potential gold mine is Bartleby's Notes, Ltd., a student-owned and operated professional note-taking ser- vice. For a fee, Bartleby's will go to a lecture, take notes, and type them up nice and neat, ready to be picked up by the subscriber in time for the next lec- ture. On the surface, Bartleby's looks good for everyone involved. 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Considering this statement, it is not unreasonable to wonder where Ms. Swain has dwelled the past year. The chairwoman might not be aware that natural resources students mobilized immediately upon the announcement of the review last year. But surely she must have noted the April Regen- ts meeting swelled with School of Natural Resources speakers and supporters. During the summer months students and faculty are effec- tively dispersed. So natural resources students only had the first three months of the fall term to start organizing again. Once more students gathered to voice their support of the school in two public hearings, while continuing to meet together, deciding-how to direct their energies. Finally, the student response to the review obviously could not have been developed until now, after the release of the budget committee's report. Working under a severe deadline, several graduate and undergraduate students met during Christmas break and began writing a response to the budget committee's recommen- dations. Now the ball is in Vice President Billy Frye's court. Hopefully, he will find the response thought-provoking. Otherwise, we may all find out how deaf the administration truly turns out to be. -Michael Penskar Graduate student, School of Natural Resources January 16 I I I To boo or not to boo Krell barks up wrong tree r r.. f+F fti . 4: >i. } i To the Daily: Wow, wow, wow! C. E. Krell does it again (Weekend, "Barking Heads," Jan. 14). His preview of the Bow Wow Wow concert was his usual inane drivel. It was even worse than his Peter Gabriel review. About half the article consists of his articulate statements about their name and how it relates to the world. Because of lines like "say it you send C. E. Krell to Lo ndon so he can write gossip for the New Musical Express. He would be perfectly content being with all the other pompous asses on their staff and we would save the Daily. Then I could take his spot on the Daily staff and write com- prehensive articles and reviews on new music bands. Then everyone would be happy. If every student at the Univer- sity donated a nickle to the "Transfer of Krell" Fund, we To the Daily:. I would like to comment briefly on a Jan. 13 letter in the Daily regarding fan response to Dan Pelekoudas. The letter, submitted by S. M. Johnson, said that U of M fans have been ignorant in their recent treatment of Michigan guard Dan Pelekoudas by booing each time Coach Bill Frieder sends the junior into the game. As was stated in the article, Bobby Knight, head basketball coach at Indiana University, goes onto the public address system whenever any of his Hoosiers receive this treatment. Bobby Knight has gained the respect of everv knowledgeable basketball result in a more negative reac- tion from the fans. Mr. Johnson, if you have wit- nessed any of Michigan's games this season, you would see why both Coach Frieder and the fans do not want to see Dan Pelekoudas on the court with a game on the line. He played con- sistently last year. The fans expect at least the same this year and obviously have been disappointed. Until Dan's play picks up, he will con- tinue to ride the bench. The fans pay good money to see the team play and the coach has the responsibility to field his best team. This does not include Pelekoudas at this time. Giving r i cepw 1mbwi i F