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Editors note: 4If they come and say we've got to have 60 scholar-
ships for women, where are we gong to get it? If the p~oliticianls
don't startwusing some judgement instead of just going after the
female vote t. Penn State coachJoe Paterno did not finish his
statement reacting to the en~forcemtent of the new federal regula-
tions known as Title IX. The regulations, which went into effect
July Z1,.are intended to ban sex discrimination at schools and
colleges.
The Department of Health, Education and Welfare established
the guidelines to be followed to comply with Title IX. These guide-
lines raised a furor in athletic departments around the country.
drawing reactions from, among others Paterno and NCAA President
John A. Fuzak who said, "Without. a doubt, HEW's Title IX pro-
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knows just what's going to come out of this thing. I think that vantage would be the school that didn't get federal funds. Most
you're going to have men's programs and women's programs ex- of the large schools do get federal funds. This law pertains to
isting side by side and, as I said, we have that now. And each schools that do get federal funds. That doesn't mean that ath-
year, as time goes on, add more women's teams. So I really letic departments get federal funds. That means the institution
think that the HEW regulations are going to change the course of gets federal funds. So I would think that some small schools
what would happen anyway. We've had women's team sports for would probably not have to comply with this if they did not get
two or three years now, long before HEW came out with their federal funds.
guidelines, and I think most schools have. I think most schools DAILY: Would private schools then have an advantage?
have very little difficulty on their campuses with the women.
gram is calculated - and I thnk by some evten tially so -
to destroy those popular and successful college sports." The women are reasonable and happy with it. Cna:Piaeshoswudb ta datg.Adal
MichganAthlticDirctorDonCanam aso as ome houhtsmale schools would be at an advantage. Like Notre Dame, for
about the Ttle IX guidelines and what they will mean. Sportsintcewhhisotalmebtsprd iaeyoudav
Editor Brian Deming interviewed Mr. Canham in August about the Canham: Where does the money come from? Nobody's mak- a tremendous advantage. If you're forced into equal expenditure
new regulations. Here is a portion of that interview.
ing any money in athletics, it's obvious. Any money we make of dollars on top of that. There's no advantage if you're not
DAILY: What is Title IX and what does it say? here we're paying off our mortgages on our tennis building, our forced into that. If you're forced into spending $800,000, on your
hockey building, our Tartan Turf. We don't make any money on women's field hockey team like you spend on your men's foot-'
Canham: Title IX is a bill passed by Congress to equalize; athletics. If .we do, we keep our facilities up a little better than baltayuhv;navnag fasho hr o o'
education on the campuses. The problem is not with Title IX. 'most. Financing of a men's program is a very serious situation. ;bl em o aea datg fasho hr o o'
Title IX is a good bill. I don't know anybody who's finding fault Only ten per cent of the schools in the country are breaking even !have to comply with the .guidelines now..
with Title IX. The concern has been what HEW says Congress in the men's program. Now, if you add a womens program, DAILY: How does Michigan compare with other schools as
intended. And they have read into Title X in their guidelines as n ing iscn ey
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DAILY: What is this going to mean for Michigan?
Canham: Well, I don't think it's going to mean much of a
different operation for a lotof schools because I thinkmany
schools are in compliance with Title IX right now. I think also
that you're going to find that the guidelines that we originally
heard about, the guidelines that were originally handed down by
HEW will not be finally enacted, finally enforced. What I mean
by that is, one of the things that bothered us originaly was that
the student body shall elect the varsity sports that you have every
year. Well, that's just sheer nonsense. It took us a long. time to
get HEW to realize that it was nonsense. You couldn't possibly
run an athletic program if your student body decided your foot-
ball team wasn't good enough this year, let's try soccer next
year. So, that's been changed. Now they have some other things
that bother us. As we understood, HEW was saying that you
shall spend equal funds on men and women. You shall spend.
equal funds on your men's football team as you spend on your
women's fied hockey team. That's just ridiculous. It can't be
done. And that's what these people at HEW were trying to do.
DAILY: So the problem is . . .
Canham: Funding. Who's got the money? We haven't got
enough money here at Michigan or anywhere else to add sports
and staffs. We're doing just the opposite. We're reducing staffs
and women we feel are breaking even at least.
DAIILY: Does Title IX say you have to have one men's
scholarship for every women's scholarship?
"I don't know if anybody can say what
the situation's going to be. I don't think
anybody can say what it's going to be in
the short run because, at this point, I don't
think anybody knows just what's going to
come out of this thing. I think that you're
going to have men's programs and wo-
men's programs existing side by side and,
as I said, we have that now."
-Michigan Athletic Director Don Canham
where does the money come from? If it comes at the expense
of the men's program, you're going to have fewer sports. You're
going to be dropping the baseball team, dropping the tennis team,
dropping the golf team.
DAILY: So minor sports would be hurt.
Canham: There are no minor sports. You can't say base-
ball's a minor sport. It's the national pastime. I don't think golf
is a minor sport. Sports that don't bring in revenue are going
to have to be dropped because you can't drop your money-making
sports. You're not going to have enough to pay the women's sal-
Canham: I don't think any better or any worse. When a
school is losing money, as we have had some in the Big Ten
doing, the university picks it up out of general fund money, out
of their expenditures, it's their obligation. So that, the program,
because they're losing money in the Big Ten, aren't being cur-
tailed. But it's costing the university money to run an athletic
program whereas at Michigan and Ohio State, it is not. If we
do run a deficit, because of the women's program, at Michigan
or anywhere else, an institution must make one of two choices:
Either drop sports or have financing.
DAILY: Are you continuing to make efforts to change the
guidelines of HEW?
Canham: Yes. Several congressmen are upset with the guide-
lines. Not- only for athletic reasons, but for other reasons. Sen-
ator Tower from Texas and James O'Hara from Michigan are:
working to change the guidelines by law. And we're supporting
them, you bet.
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Canham: Well, that's one of the other areas. But they're now aries, let alone anything else.
saying no. They didn't say that. There's no possibility we could DAILY: What about bi schools versus small schools? Do
match the women's scholarships with our men's scholarships. If D Yt big schools versdsall soolsiDo
we were forced to do that we'd drop the men's scholarships, that's bikeschoshi
all. We just can't do it. We haven't got the money and there's
no possibility we can do it. And no one else in the country can. Canham: I suppose that the school that would have an ad-
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DAILY: Are then their attitudes changing?
Canham: Well, I don't know whether they're changing their
attitudes. HEW isn't. They're the most difficult people I've ever
dealt with. They're not changing their attitude. But I think someC
people who understand what the financial crunches are on the
university campuses are having some chance to get things
changed.
DAILY: So right now these guidelines are not going to par-
ticularly affect Michigan?
Canham: No, because first of all, you've got three years to
comply. It would be just impossible to do it now. You'd be firing
coaches and eliminating sports and everything else if you pro-
pose to do anything along the lines suggested. Now in the next
few years we hope to get some sanity into the equality of the
thing.
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