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nent m viewer assessment of
their style.
The poll, commissioned by
the Public Broadcasting Service
(PBS), showed that 39 per cent
of the nearly 600 adult televi-
sion viewers questioned felt
that Ford was "ahead on the
debate." Carter was favored by
31 per cent and 30 per cent
thought it was a draw.
The pollsters also asked the
supporter for each candidate
what they thought of the other.
Only eight per cent of the Ford
supporters felt Carter "won,"
while 13 per cent of the Carter
supporters felt President Ford
had done better.
FOR 82 MINUTES, they ans-
wered questions and traded!
barbs. Then the sound broke
down. And on the stage of the
antique Walnut Street Theater,
the two candidates stood wait-
ing to speak their final words
in a confrontation that could
shape the campaign ahead.
Cart er got the first question,
and ABC newsman Frank Rey-
nolds put it, noting that the
Democratic nominee had said
he expected to clear up concern
about alleged imprecision in
his programs, and asking for
specific proposals to cope with
unemployment.
The response was a summa-
tion of the programs Carter has
put forward during his cam-
paign. "We'll never have a bal-
anced budget until we get our
people back to work," he said.
Carter
CARTER SAID he HESA]
would channel research and de- lost their
velopment spending into pro- months"
grams that would create jobs, beings."C
would invest tax money in hous- ment figu
ing loans and subsidies, would 7.9 per c
seek a Sivilian Conservation was une
Corps - style program for de- eight mil
pressed areas of the major Ford s
cities. the econc
In large measure, the 12-ques- jobs is to
tion sequence of responses, fol- eral spen
lowups and rebuttals produced payers h
a recitation of positions and spend the
points the two candidates had dent said
jobs in the last three
"and they are human
Government unemploy-
res for August showed
ent of the work force
mployed, or nearly
lion people.
aid the way to spur
omy and create new
keep the lid on fed-
ding and let the tax-
have the money to
emselves. The Presi-
he favors an addition-
[D 500,000 people have . last three months
open
debate
before an
election," he said. "They al-
ways fight for the programs
they're against the other 312
years . .
IN AN EARLIER exchange,
Carter had said that if he was
to be tied with all acts of a
Congress in which he never
served, Ford should be identi-
fied with the administration of
Richard Nixon, in which he did':
serve.
"I think the real issue in this
campaign and that which you
must decide on Nov. 2 is wheth-
er you should vote for his prom-
ises or my performance in two'
years in the White House," Ford
said.
Minutes later, as he left the
theater, Ford said the debate'
had been great, "I enjoyed it
very much." Asked who h,
won, the President replied:
"The American people."
WITH 10 MINUTES to go, t
audio portion of the televis
debate failed.
The sound fade-out came so
after Carter began stepping
his attack on Ford, referrii
to an almost complete brea
down in relations between tl
President and Congress.
"So far, aside from avoidir
another Watergate, Mr. Fo
has not accomplished one si
gle major program for this cou
try," he said.
JIMMY CARTER was lat
stopped in mid-sentence by
sound failure that never real
series
ad was explained to the candidates
or to the audience in the thea-
ter. The President stood the
entire time as technicians back
he stage tried to find what was
ed wrong. Carter smiled and sat
down in his chrome and plas-
on tic stool for the first time in
up the debate.
ng So they wrapped it up on over-
k- time, with summations that
he were, in essence, reviews of
their standard campaign speech-
ng es.
rd "We have suffered because we
haven't had leadership in this
- administration," Carter said.
n "We've had a government of
stalemate." It is a theme he
hits from every platform-and
er one he raised at intervals dur-
a ing the debate, the first of three
ly between the White House rivals.
made before. There were no al $10 billion tax cut.
dramatic new proposals. He said that would permit
Carter told Ford to his face him to recommend moderate
what he has been telling Dem- spending increases "in the qual-
ocrats around the country: that ity of life area," and still sub-
he doesn't think the President mit a balanced federal budget to
has done anything to demon- Congress in January, 1978.
strate leadership. He said a Re- "I CANNOT and would not
publican like Dwight Eisenhow- endorse the kind of programs
er was capable of dealing with that Gov. Carter recommends,"
a Democratic Congress, but Ford said. He said Carter has
Ford is not. endorsed a Democratic plat-
FORD SAID Carter hadn't form that envisions about 60
been more specific as debater additional spending programs
than as campaign orator. He that would add $100 billion and
said Democrats are what is perhaps as much as $20 bil-
wrong with Washington and lion to the federal budget.
with Congress. Carter has said in the past
Describing the President's ap- that he has no firm figure for
proach to joblessness, Carter the cost of the programs he ad-
said Ford does not take into vocates, but that he would de-
account the human dimension fer the programs until funding
of unemployment, "a terrible was available without increasing
tragedy in this country." taxes.
"This affects human beings, At his lecturn, Carter smiled
and his insensitivity . . . has as if to scoff at what the Presi-
made this a welfare administra- dent had said. "Mr. Ford takes
tion and not a work adminis- the same attitude that the Re-
tration," Carter said. publicans always take in the
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Lady Bird 'hurt''by
Carter's LI3J remarks
AUSTIN, Tex. (AP)-Ms. Lyndon John- travels along with all the other Democratic
son said yesterday she was "distressed, hurt presidents." Ms. Johnson said.
and perplexed" by Jimmy Carter's remarks
about her late husband in a magazine in- AT THAT POINT she broke off her con-
terview. Carter has apologized for his com- versation with reporters by walking with her
ments about Johnson. daughter, Luci Nugent, to greet Ms. Car-;
Ms. Johnson's statement was released ter. She took both of Ms. Carter's hands in
shortly before the former first lady toured hers, but the two did not embrace.
the Lyndon Baines Johnson Library with After a brief tour of the library exhibits,
Carter's wife, Rosalynn. Ms. Johnson, Ms. Nugent and Ms. Carter
went into seclusion for 20 minutes to have
SHORTLY BEFORE Carter arrived, Ms. coffee.
Johnson was asked by reporters for com- Asked by reporters afterward if they dis-
ment on Carter's remark to a Playboy in- cussed the Playboy interview, Ms. Carter
terviewer that Presidents Nixon and John- said: "We didn't say Playboy one time."
son engaged in "lying, cheating and dis- Carter was quoted as saying in the Play-
tortion of the truth." boy interview, which will appear in the
magazine's November issue, " . . I don't
She said that she had told her staff that think I would ever take on the same frame
if anyone sought her comment, "They could of mind that Nixon or Johnson did - lying,
say I was distressed, hurt and perplexed." cheating and distorting the truth."
Ms. Johnson confirmed that the Democratic Jody Powell, Carter's press secretary,
presidential candidate had called her after said Carter was not making excuses for the
advance reports of the Playboy interview statement, but apologizing for it. He said
were released. Carter was trying in the interview to point
"I, felt it was very nice of him to call out "we all have our shortcomings and
me. He told me he had said a great deal because of that we ought not to judge oth-
of nice things about my husband on his ers too harshly for their mistakes."
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