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The poll, commissioned by the Public Broadcasting Service (PBS), showed that 39 per cent of the nearly 600 adult televi- sion viewers questioned felt that Ford was "ahead on the debate." Carter was favored by 31 per cent and 30 per cent thought it was a draw. The pollsters also asked the supporter for each candidate what they thought of the other. Only eight per cent of the Ford supporters felt Carter "won," while 13 per cent of the Carter supporters felt President Ford had done better. FOR 82 MINUTES, they ans- wered questions and traded! barbs. Then the sound broke down. And on the stage of the antique Walnut Street Theater, the two candidates stood wait- ing to speak their final words in a confrontation that could shape the campaign ahead. Cart er got the first question, and ABC newsman Frank Rey- nolds put it, noting that the Democratic nominee had said he expected to clear up concern about alleged imprecision in his programs, and asking for specific proposals to cope with unemployment. The response was a summa- tion of the programs Carter has put forward during his cam- paign. "We'll never have a bal- anced budget until we get our people back to work," he said. Carter CARTER SAID he HESA] would channel research and de- lost their velopment spending into pro- months" grams that would create jobs, beings."C would invest tax money in hous- ment figu ing loans and subsidies, would 7.9 per c seek a Sivilian Conservation was une Corps - style program for de- eight mil pressed areas of the major Ford s cities. the econc In large measure, the 12-ques- jobs is to tion sequence of responses, fol- eral spen lowups and rebuttals produced payers h a recitation of positions and spend the points the two candidates had dent said jobs in the last three "and they are human Government unemploy- res for August showed ent of the work force mployed, or nearly lion people. aid the way to spur omy and create new keep the lid on fed- ding and let the tax- have the money to emselves. The Presi- he favors an addition- [D 500,000 people have . last three months open debate before an election," he said. "They al- ways fight for the programs they're against the other 312 years . . IN AN EARLIER exchange, Carter had said that if he was to be tied with all acts of a Congress in which he never served, Ford should be identi- fied with the administration of Richard Nixon, in which he did': serve. "I think the real issue in this campaign and that which you must decide on Nov. 2 is wheth- er you should vote for his prom- ises or my performance in two' years in the White House," Ford said. Minutes later, as he left the theater, Ford said the debate' had been great, "I enjoyed it very much." Asked who h, won, the President replied: "The American people." WITH 10 MINUTES to go, t audio portion of the televis debate failed. The sound fade-out came so after Carter began stepping his attack on Ford, referrii to an almost complete brea down in relations between tl President and Congress. "So far, aside from avoidir another Watergate, Mr. Fo has not accomplished one si gle major program for this cou try," he said. JIMMY CARTER was lat stopped in mid-sentence by sound failure that never real series ad was explained to the candidates or to the audience in the thea- ter. The President stood the entire time as technicians back he stage tried to find what was ed wrong. Carter smiled and sat down in his chrome and plas- on tic stool for the first time in up the debate. ng So they wrapped it up on over- k- time, with summations that he were, in essence, reviews of their standard campaign speech- ng es. rd "We have suffered because we haven't had leadership in this - administration," Carter said. n "We've had a government of stalemate." It is a theme he hits from every platform-and er one he raised at intervals dur- a ing the debate, the first of three ly between the White House rivals. made before. There were no al $10 billion tax cut. dramatic new proposals. He said that would permit Carter told Ford to his face him to recommend moderate what he has been telling Dem- spending increases "in the qual- ocrats around the country: that ity of life area," and still sub- he doesn't think the President mit a balanced federal budget to has done anything to demon- Congress in January, 1978. strate leadership. He said a Re- "I CANNOT and would not publican like Dwight Eisenhow- endorse the kind of programs er was capable of dealing with that Gov. Carter recommends," a Democratic Congress, but Ford said. He said Carter has Ford is not. endorsed a Democratic plat- FORD SAID Carter hadn't form that envisions about 60 been more specific as debater additional spending programs than as campaign orator. He that would add $100 billion and said Democrats are what is perhaps as much as $20 bil- wrong with Washington and lion to the federal budget. with Congress. Carter has said in the past Describing the President's ap- that he has no firm figure for proach to joblessness, Carter the cost of the programs he ad- said Ford does not take into vocates, but that he would de- account the human dimension fer the programs until funding of unemployment, "a terrible was available without increasing tragedy in this country." taxes. "This affects human beings, At his lecturn, Carter smiled and his insensitivity . . . has as if to scoff at what the Presi- made this a welfare administra- dent had said. "Mr. Ford takes tion and not a work adminis- the same attitude that the Re- tration," Carter said. publicans always take in the ............. i i 7 i I {!t I r t Lady Bird 'hurt''by Carter's LI3J remarks AUSTIN, Tex. (AP)-Ms. Lyndon John- travels along with all the other Democratic son said yesterday she was "distressed, hurt presidents." Ms. Johnson said. and perplexed" by Jimmy Carter's remarks about her late husband in a magazine in- AT THAT POINT she broke off her con- terview. Carter has apologized for his com- versation with reporters by walking with her ments about Johnson. daughter, Luci Nugent, to greet Ms. Car-; Ms. Johnson's statement was released ter. She took both of Ms. Carter's hands in shortly before the former first lady toured hers, but the two did not embrace. the Lyndon Baines Johnson Library with After a brief tour of the library exhibits, Carter's wife, Rosalynn. Ms. Johnson, Ms. Nugent and Ms. Carter went into seclusion for 20 minutes to have SHORTLY BEFORE Carter arrived, Ms. coffee. Johnson was asked by reporters for com- Asked by reporters afterward if they dis- ment on Carter's remark to a Playboy in- cussed the Playboy interview, Ms. Carter terviewer that Presidents Nixon and John- said: "We didn't say Playboy one time." son engaged in "lying, cheating and dis- Carter was quoted as saying in the Play- tortion of the truth." boy interview, which will appear in the magazine's November issue, " . . I don't She said that she had told her staff that think I would ever take on the same frame if anyone sought her comment, "They could of mind that Nixon or Johnson did - lying, say I was distressed, hurt and perplexed." cheating and distorting the truth." Ms. Johnson confirmed that the Democratic Jody Powell, Carter's press secretary, presidential candidate had called her after said Carter was not making excuses for the advance reports of the Playboy interview statement, but apologizing for it. He said were released. Carter was trying in the interview to point "I, felt it was very nice of him to call out "we all have our shortcomings and me. He told me he had said a great deal because of that we ought not to judge oth- of nice things about my husband on his ers too harshly for their mistakes." ........ ....: :: v r.:; .. .a"v:::.... it}r ':}}'... . ..... ..r."1 :": ."".: < :v:.: . .......... ............ r ...s :.... r: .."...:.. ..... s v-.::. {":"..:.r.:n".rs LINDA WERTMULLER'S . SEVEN BEAUTIES Has Been Cancelled CAUSE: DISTRIBUTION FOUL-UP) INSTEAD COME AND SEE A DAVID BOWIE in Nicholas Roeg's (director of "Don't Look Now") $ THE MAN WHO$ FE LL TO EART H -A sci fi film about a stranger (Rowie) in a strange land ( tryng o return home to his parchsed, desert panet, on which his family is dying. 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