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…Obituaries DONALD RAYMOND BARGET, 84, of Commerce, died May 21, 2006. He is survived by his wife, Lillian Barget; children, Kenneth and Cherle Barget, Joyce Sieger and Charles Heebsh, Sally and James Scapa, Colleen Barget and Dave Bulger, Nancy and Steve Kulakowsky; grandchildren, Ralph, Shawn and Javier Mendez, Jacqueline, Danielle, Stephanie, Anna, Amanda and Gabrielle; great-grandchildren, Alex and Mora Mendez; brothers, Raymond, Warren an...…
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…J Contents JNOnline.us May 25-31, 2006 27 Iyar-4 Sivan 5766 Vol. CXXIX, No. 16 Nutritionally Speaking World/Israel By Ba rhara Be 7.110S. RD,I.D.'N Integrated Nutrition LLC Warren Buffett And Israel 15 ues- tion: Dear Bar., at's this latest con- troversy about dietary supple- ments? Jim. Before Israeli deal, Warren Buffett made mark on Jewish community. O pinion Murder, Not Paradise 20 Reflections on the terrorist killing of young D...…
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…Editor's Letter When you A Voice Of Conservatism Second of two parts W e can't expect non-Jews to respect and accept us as Jews as part of the pantheon of peoples if we don't show those feelings toward one another. Stifled somewhat by the horns of this dilemma, the Jewish community continues to grapple with its differences at the expense of what it shares as a culture and as a faith. Dr. Arnold Eisen, the new chancellor-desig- nate of the...…
…Letters Buy Domestic Cars Amazing that not once in an arti- cle on the decline of the Jewish community in Detroit and the loss of our young people to other cities is there a mention of one of the basic causes: Detroit, and the Jewish community in Detroit, are in decline because GM, Ford and Chrysler are in trouble ("A Message Worth Heeding;' May 11, page 5). Ironically, the problem can be seen in the parking lots of our synagogues, filled wit...…
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…Metro Fighting A I DS Mary Fisher accepts UNAIDS appointment. Mary Davis Fisher and UNAIDS Executive Director Peter Piot M ary Davis Fisher, the . artist, author and speaker who :travels the world advocating for those who share her HIV-positive status, has accepted the appoint- ment as special representative fot the Joint United Nations Program on HIV/AIDS (UNAIDS). As UNAIDS special representative, Fisher will continue to raise awarene...…
…Metro Well Done! Akiva students place in international Bible competition. F ourteen students from Yeshivat Akiva in Southfield participated in the annual Hidon HaTaNaKh, an international contest spon- sored by Israel's Education Department for 6th-12th-grad- ers in day and supplementary schools. Akiva seventh-graders Dovi Nadel and Noga Ben Ami placed second and fourth in the junior division. Elizabeth Goldmeier tied for second in the seni...…
…World The Buffett Connection Long before Israeli deal, Warren Buffett made his mark on Jewish community. Warren Buffett Chanan Tigay Jewish Telegraphic Agency New York W arren Buffett is not a Jew, and in fact describes himself as an agnostic. Still, the billionaire investment guru, who earlier this month made big news when his Berkshire Hathaway corporation bought an 80 percent share in Israeli metalworks conglomer- ate Iscar fo...…
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…JVS is grateful to the many individuals and corporations that made our 9th annual Strictly Business Luncheon an incredible success. With their assistance, JVS raised $355,000 to support services for the most vulnerable people we serve. Our thanks go to the following individuals and businesses for their commitment, care and concern for our community. Presenting Sponsor DaimlerChrysler Corporation Fund Awards Underwriter Luncheon Underwriter...…
…Dry Bones Opinion HAUS SAYS: ENO THE OCCUPATION: , Editorials are posted and archived on JNonline.us. WEN THE RETURN OF HUNGARY. , . Editorial Bonding With Israel 0 nly a handful of folks in the world can make an investment in Israel like Omaha billionaire Warren Buffett's $4 billion purchase of 80 percent of the Galilee-based Iscar Metalworking. But for the rest of us, investing in Israel is as simple as purchasing Israel Bonds. Whi...…
…Opinion OTHER VIEWS Murder, Not Paradise I did not know Daniel Wultz, the 16-year-old American victim of a homicide bomb- ing in Tel Aviv who died on Mother's Day. Neither did I know his parents, Sheryl or Tuly, who, after a tortuous monthlong vigil at their son's hospital bedside, flew his body home to Weston, Fla., last week for burial. So why, then, did the news of this horrific tragedy cut to my core with such emotional intensity? As a...…
