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BOOK REVIEW:,
They Went to College
THEY WENT TO COLLEGE, by Ernest
Havemann and Patricia West. Harcourt,
Brace and Co.
THIS IS A BOOK about college graduates.
The material for the book comes from
a many year survey paid for by a "not
completely altruistic" Time Magazine. It is
believed to represent rather adequately the
facts and opinions of all living college grad-
uates at the time of 1947. As a book it is
easily read, and if you can understand Little
Orphan Annie you can follow the graphical
presentation.
This unusual mutation is the product
of a collaboration, between a journalist
Havemann, and sociologist West. The re-
search was done by the Columbia Uni-
versity Bureau of Applied Social Research.
Whether it should be labeled a caricature
of a sociological treatise, or a journalistic
effort rendered slightly dry by frequent
reference to numbers, is a moot point.
If the findings are true-more to be said
about this later-they should be of prime
interest to anyone in college, out of col-
lege, and/or planning to send children to
college. Mr. Havemann makes every ef-
fort to garnish up the data with a rather
flowery style, which is no doubt meant
to be "striking." I confess that at times it
was a bit difficult to see the cake for the
frosting.
Here are a few things that the study
found: First of all college graduates tend to
make considerably more money than non-
college people. Secondly college graduates
are younger as a group than non-college
people, and are predominantly male. Fewer
male graduates are bachelors than males in
the total adult population, but the female
graduates, in surprisingly large numbers,
are spinsters. Also college graduates are
found to be predominantly Republicans, al-
though the younger ones are less conserva-
tive than their predecessors. Finally if you
went to an Ivy League school (Harvard, Yale,
etc.) and were supported entirely by your
parents the chances are good that you will
make more money than your less fortunate
fellow graduates. But no matter where you
go, you're almost sure to be glad you did.
In addition, facts and opinions are pre-
sented about the family stability of college
prsons, the church and political behavior of
the graduate, the "Greasy Grind" vs. "Big
Man on Campus" controversy (using Have-
mann's terms), and how those "who work-
ed their way through" compare with those
who lived off the old man. If your interest
is more in the line of bread and butter
findings they are presented here. Income
differences are'compared for different fields
of study, grade averages, extra-curricular
participation, and other variables. You can
find all your pet gripes mentioned by grad-
uates of past year, with even so.me quotes
from ex-Michigan students. If you are an-
noyed by the type of person who thinks of
college as a parade of raccoon coats, or
disturbed by the type who thinks all col-
lege students are "a bunch of young radi-
cals," you can argue from these "facts." It
may even work as a pacifier for straining
parents who wonder if it is "all worthwhile."
All of this sounds good-for more good
sounds read the rather immodest review
of the book in "Time Magazine"--but
there is some cold water that certainly
deserves to be thrown. Without going into
a long discussion of sampling statistics,
let's just say that there is nothing in this
book to tell you whether you can believe
a word of it. The differences which are
presented between the "Greasy Grinds"
and "The Student Who Just Sat There'"
may be real differences, or they may be
just the results of choosing this particular
sample from the total population of col-
lege graduates.
There are statistical devices to give you
some idea of how much confidence you may
have in your findings, but if they were used
they aren't in this book. Such is enough to
make most researchers blush a bit, and
sinre it is apparent that the author con-
siders himself something of a myth-des-
troyer, the omission is even a little more
serious. One may be able to by-pass this
first omission with a well founded faith in
the thoroughness of Patricia West and the
Columbia Bureau of Social Research, but the
next is somewhat harder to take. We are
asked to believe that all of the graduates
who answered this mailed questionnaire re-
membered and reported accurately their
grades, the amount of self-support they had,
and so on. I, for one, don't believe it, but
believe it or not, it is certainly a thing to
be checked.
In addition to this, only 59% of the
questionnaires were sent back to the auth-
ors, and personal interviews with a sample
of the non-respondents showed that they
were different from the respondents on 89
out of 173 characteristics. The authors
neglect to mention just what these char-
acteristics are, but it would be rather nice
to know, since it would certainly be a
help in determining something about the
adequacy of their original sample, the
other thing which they neglected to re-
port. The point of all this is merely that
myth, fantasy, and folklore can be cre-
ated as easily by numbers as they can be
destroyed by numbers. Until one knows
more about the procedures of this study
there is every reason for caution in ac-
cepting it as the "facts."
One thing more needs to be re-emphasiz-
ed. Mr. Havemann states early in the first
chapter that this is not the kind of study
that tells you whether college has caused
such things as higher income, marriage
rates, political opinions, or all of the rest.
But it will not tell you if college is the rea-
son for their being like this.
-arry A. Burdick
Senator
Monroney
A FEW WEEKS AGO, Senator Robert Taft
visited the University to state his views
on public issues. Today, Senator Mike Mon-
roney of Oklahoma will appear on campus
to present the Democratic Party's viewpoint.
One of the top public speakers in the
Democratic Party, Monroney has been
noted for his rational appraisal of public
issues, and his outstanding record in the
Senate has won him national acclaim.
It was 14 years ago, when Monroney, a
successful businessman, entered Congress.
He was there but a short time when he
caught the public's eye. Oklahoma congress-
men, coming from an "oil-conscious" state,
usually vote for increases in oil prices when-
ever possible. Monroney, however, surprised
the experts by consistently voting against
oil increases because he felt that the boost
might foster inflation. This unusual stand
caused the "Washington Post" to comment:
"He talks in Congress not merely as an
Oklahoman, but as an American."
The achievement that was to bring Mon-
roney greatest public attention was his plan
-the Monroney Bill-to streamline Con-
gress by reducing the number of committees
and simplifying procedures. For this service,
"Colliers" magazine honored him with an
award for being "the most useful.member of
the House during 1945."
"The New York Telegram" wrote, shortly
after Monroney had succeeded in enacting
his Congressional reforms, "When history is
written a few hundred years hence, the out-
standing event of the 79th Congress will be
the passage of the Monroney Bill."
In the last few years, Monroney has
tried to gain further improvements in
Congress. He has fought to eliminate the
filibuster, modify the seniority rules, and
limit the power of the house Rules Com-
mittee.
Because of Monroney's distinguished rec-
ord, members of both parties should wel-
come the opportunity to hear the Senator
speak this afternoon at Rackham Lecture
Hall on why 1952 is "The Year of Decision."
-Bernie Backhaut
INTERPRETING THE NEWS:
Shadow
Boxing
By J. M. ROBERTS, JR.
AP Foreign Affairs Analyst
THE ALLIES continue to shadow box with
Russia over an extremely nebulous uni-
fied Germany while going right ahead with
plans for the incorporation of Western Ger-
many into the European Defense Commun-
ity.
Reports from Bonn are that a number
of items in the new peace contract have
been ironed out to the satisfaction of
some of the querulous German politicians
who were threatening to block Chancellor
Adenauer's agreement with the West. Sec-
retary Acheson plans to leave for Europe
soon to sign the contract with the Ger-
mans, to sign mutual security protocols
between Britain, the U.S. and the EDC
required by Germany's new association
with the Atlantic Pact countries, and to
witness the hoped-for signing of the EDC
Treaty itself.
All of this is preliminary to the contri-
bution by Germany of 400,000 troops to the
projected one-uniform European Army, and
it is this which has Russia so agitated.
MEANTIME, THE latest Allied note to
Russia on the German problem follows their
usual line of keeping the door open with-
out committing themselves to any more
Russian delaying actions. If Russia still
wants to talk about unification they ate
willing-provided a neutral commission is
permitted to investigate the possibilities of
a free election and finds there are some
prospects.
To establish the basis for a free election
in all Germany, the Russians would have
to relinquish their terroristic police hold
on the Eastern Germans, free thousands
of political prisoners who would have a
right to vote, and in general trade their
hold on East Germany for a neutral whole
Germany where they would have no more
privileges than anyone else.
You can judge the probabilities of that
yourself.
But the Allies, by not insisting on inves-
tigation by the UN elections commission
chosen for - the purpose and rejected by
Russia, maintain a certain air of reasonable-
ness calculated to help them with the Ger-
mans to whom unification means every-
thing.
* *.*
RUSSIAN THREATS against Germany if
she goes ahead with the western alliance
seem to be boomeranging. There is less Ger-
man equivocation than a week ago, Germans
are remembering the Berlin Blockade and
how. foolish the Russians were finally made
to look, and how proud the Berliners were
made to feel that they could withstand the
pressure with Allied help.
Now Secretary Acheson has told them
that the help is still available if it should
"I Want Them Back-They Were My Prisoners First!"
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tetteP4 TO THE EDITOR
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and in good taste. Letters exceeding 300 words in length, defamatory or
libelous letters, and letters which for any reason are not in good taste will
be condensed, edited or withheld from publication at the discretion of the
editors.
SPA Outing.
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MArrE C) FACT
By JOSEPH and STEWART ALSOP
WASHINGTON-Not long ago, Sen. Rob-
ert A. Taft was quoted as saying there
had not been such a struggle for the Repub-
lican nomination in the last forty years.
Apparently, 1912, which was not exactly an
auspicious year for the Taft family, is on
the Senator's mind. It is on a lot of other
politicians' minds, too, because of the loom-
ing contests for the Texas and Louisiana
Republican delegations.
In 1912, it may be recalled, Theodore
Roosevelt had the support of the Repub-
lican rank and file, while William Howard
Taft, as President, controlled the Repub-
lican Party machinery. As Roosevelt won
victory after victory in the primaries, the
Taft manager, Frank Hitchcock, dismissed
each new Rooseveltian triumph with the
remark, "Ah yes, but we've got the cre-
dentials committee."
At the convention itself, the Taft-domin-
ated credentials committee duly seated sev-
enty-two contested, pro-Taft delegates. The
pro-Taft convention chairman, Elihu Root,
steam-rollered the convention into accept-
ing the credential committee's findings, pre-
siding for the purpose-so violent was the
feeling at the time-behind a barricade of
barbed wire. And William Howard Taft got
the Republican nomination and carried
Vermont..
By a singular twist of historical irony, a
comparable situation again threatens to
arise, when William Howard Taft's energetic
Resolution
WHEREAS; football is a tradition at Mi-
chigan,
Whereas; season football tickets are in-
cluded in the tuition,
Whereas: May Festival is a tradition at
Michigan,
Whereas; some students prefer concerts
to football games,
Therefore, why not give the individual
student the option, at registration, of choos-
inzr hehu'xn n . esAIn tikeFt t ofn Ff 'trnl
son is making his final and most hopeful
try for the Presidency.
In brief, the ancient and exclusive Re-
publican organization in Texas, now head-
ed bY John Zweifel, and the even more
exclusive established Republican organi-
zation in Louisiana, headed by John E.
Jackson, have been passionately pro.-Taft
from the word go. Taft and his friends
have worked for years to make the links
into hoops of steel.
Meanwhile, however, the candidacy of
Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower has evoked a
popular surge throughout the South. Most-
ly, this has taken the form of Southerners
declaring they will vote for Eisenhower as
Democrats. But in Louisiana and Texas,
the local Republican parties have also been
strongly challenged by pro - Eisenhower
movements.
The Jackson and Zweifel organizations
have both responded in the same way to
the irresistible rush of pro-Eisenhower vo-
ters into precinct and district conventions.
The Jacksonites and the Zweifelites have
rejected the verdicts of the majorities
against them; and they have boldly named
members of their own factions to the
state conventions which will make the
final choice of the Louisiana and Texas
delegations.
This would appear to indicate that the
Taft national strategists will go to all
lengths to get the Texas-Louisiana vote.
Meanwhile a meeting of Southern and na-
tional Eisenhower leaders is scheduled' .to
take place very shortly in New Orleans,
where the gauntlet will be thrown down to
the Taft forcese. The present mood of the
Eisenhower men is that they will make a
deal, but not for less than ten of the Louis-
iana delegates and thirty of the Texans.
This, in itself, might be enough to swing
the balance at Chicago decisively toward
Eisenhower.
On the other hand, if the Taft strate-
gists carry the struggle to the convention,
"they had better be ready for the worst
fight they ever got into," in the reported
words of Gov. Thomas E. Dewey of New.
Yner.Thp fi-ht will hppn ain the ronnt
ON THE
1Washington Merry-Go-Round
with DREW PEARSON
WASHINGTON-Lobbying in Washington ranges from subtle hints
dropped at cocktail parties to balf-faced brazen campaign con-
tributions. It can be ethical or smelly.
But the most unique lobbying of all is now being conducted
on behalf of higher-priced toilet facilities in railroad stations, and
the lobbyists are none other than the President's ex-counsel, Clark
Clifford, and the Democratic Senator from Delaware, Allen Frear,
Both are interested in helping the Pennsylvania Railroad which
wants to raise the legal price of toilets from a nickel to a dime. To
that end, Senator Frear has introduced an amendment to the War-
time Controls Act, which has become known delicately as "The Toilet
Amendment."
Frear's amendment is still under secret study by the Senate Bank-
ing -Committee. However, it would not only double the tariff on
rest-room facilities, but would let the Pennsylvania Railroad off the
hook for $385,245.
Inside story is that the railroad is in a jam with the Office of
Price Stabilization for installing dime slots on its pay toilet doors.
OPS opposed this increase, but the railroad pleaded that it would
cost $45,444 to reconvert the pay-toilet locks. OPS replied that
the locks had been installed after the price freeze, so the railroad
had acted at its own legal risk.
Furthermore, Grand Central Station in New York City had set up
higher-priced turnstiles in its pay washrooms one day before the price
freeze. However, though within the law, it changed back its locks
and advanced to the OPS ruling without an argument.
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OPS INJUNCTION
FOR TEN MONTHS, the OPS-Pennsylvania Railroad dispute con-
tinued. The railroad tried every legal maneuver to keep its dime pay
toilets. But OPS finally slapped the railroad with a treble-damage
suit for $385,245, and asked for an injunction to stop the overcharge.
Faced with a losing court battle, the Pennsylvania line began pull-
ing wires on Capitol Hill. It even got its legal lobbyist, Clark Clifford,
to help lobby for ten-cent toilets.
Finally the railroad found a willing sympathizer in Senator
Frear, whose little State of Delaware has a big Pennsylvania Rail-
road interest. He promptly drafted an amendment to exempt
washrooms from price ceilings.
The Frear Amendment, however, contains a tricky phrase, mak-
ing the exemption "declaratory of existing law." In simple English,
this means that Congress always intended to exempt pay toilets any-
way, and the effect of this phrase would be to knock out the Govern-
ment's $385,245 damage suit.
Meanwhile, Pennsylvania Railroad's ten-cent toilets are continu-
ing to collect overcharges to the tune of $400 a day.
TEA-DRINKING MORMON
For a man who went through the rough-and-tumble of getting
elected to the Senate, Arthur Watkins of Utah is quite a sensitive
man. He is still smarting from the fact that while in Utah some
months ago I told inquirers that whereas the other GOP Senator
from Utah, Wallace Bennett, had qualities of statesmanship, Watkins
was a mediocrity.
What worries him even more, is that his Mormon constituents
will find out that he has been drinking tea and coffee.
The ordinary person would think nothing of it, but to the Mormon
Church, of which Senator Watkins is a highpriest, it is against church
law for him to drink tea or coffee.
Despite this, Senator Flanders, the GOP solon from Vermont,
came in the Senate lunchroom some time ago and found high priest
Watkins with a pot of tea at his elbow.
"Aha!" exclaimed Flanders, a tone of mock reproval in his voice.
Abashed, the Senator from Utah explained that he was drink-
ing tea for medicinal purposes. But from that time on, Watkins
did not drink "medicinal" tea or coffee in public, though there
was evidence that he did so in the quiet of his office.
For one day, he got aboard a Senate elevator with a cup of coffee
in his hand, only to' find, much to his horror, that the elevator boy
was a youngster from Utah. Hurriedly, the Senator from Utah gulped
down the coffe behind the elevator boy's back, left the elevator with
no telltale evidence in the cup.
STEEL DEBATE STIFLED
THE GIANT U.S. Steel Corporation pulled some backstage wires
the other day which caused the Senate Banking Committee to cancel
a public debate of the important steel issue. It was done by secret
vote at a meeting that was supposed to be "strictly confidential."
What makes the wire-pulling all the more pointed is that
the same Banking Committee had already voted to hold a public
debate. It planned to sit the representatives of industry, labor
and government around the table, and let them argue the issues
back and forth in front of the public.
However, Vice President John A. Stevens of U.S. Steel at the
last minute objected. Whereupon Indiana's roly-poly GOP Senator
Homer Capehart promptly urged that the committee change its mind.
He was backed by Senator Willis Robertson, Virginia Democrat, who
has been buzzing around with the Big Steel moguls throughout the
steel crisis.
"I have been in Congress 19 years, and I read the Congressional
Record before that because I hoped to get here," said Robertson. "But
in all those 35 years no committee has confessed its inability to get
facts without public debate. I would feel like a nitwit if we admitted
we couldn't get the essential facts."
But Senator Blair Moody, Michigan Democrat. argued that all
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To the Editor:
TWO SUBJECTS most under
discussion today are peace
and the weather. As Mark Twain
put it, "Everyone talks about the
weather, but no one does anything
about it." However, something
CAN be done about peace. To this
end, and in continuation for
peaceful activities on campus, the
Society for Peaceful Alternatives
is planning a gala all-campus
Peace Picnic, to be held at the
Island Park on Saturday, May 17,
from 3:30 p.m. till . .. ..?
There will be skits. And songs.
And dancing. And a dramatic pre-
sentation of Robert Rosenberg's
play, War Sky. And athletic events.
And cultural displays on topics of
peace. And FOOD.
And more, if weather permits.
So students, faculty, families,
and interested passers-by . . .
here's your opportunity to stop
talking and start DOING some-
thing about PEACE!
-Arthur Rose, Acting Secretary
Society for Peaceful
Alternatives
* * *
Religious People' ..
To the Editor:
WHILE Bob Jaffe, in his edi-
torial against religious courses
on this campus, cites many fine
examples in which a mention of
God and/or religion were omitted,
we still can't base a whole state-
wide philosophy (including that
of the colleges and universities)
on a few isolated examples. The
argument offered by Mr. Jaffe, it
seems to me, is void if he bases his
whole cases on these examples, as
he apparently does.
If the University were to make
these proposed courses compul-
sory, then definitely we would be
overlooking the rights of any ag-
nostic or atheist who would be
receiving his education here. But,
as the school is set up, the courses
would not be compulsory and
therefore would not be, 'stepping
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Doctoral Examination for Chiao-Min
Chut, Electrical Engineering; thesis:
"Scattering and Absorption of Water
Droplets in Millimeter Wavelengths,"
Fri., May 16, 2 p.m., 2507 E. Engineer-
ing Bldg. Chairman, S. S. Attwood.
Doctoral Examination for George
Herman, Speech; thesis: "Variability of
the Absolute Auditory Threshold: A
Psycho-physicai Study," Fri., May 16,
1 p.m., 301 Speech Clinic. Chairman,
H. H. Bloomer.
Concerts
Student Recital: Charles Stephenson,
tenor, will present a program at 8:30
p.m., Thurs., May 15, in the Rackham
Assembly Hall, in partial fulfillment
of the requirements for the Master of
Music degree. Mr. Stephenson studies
voice with Harold Haugh, and has plan-
ned a program to include works by
Carissimi,S carlatti, Handel; Porpora,
Vaughan-Williams, Finney, and Schu-
bert. It will be open to the public.
Student Recital: Nathalie Dale, vio-
linist, will play a program in partial
fulfillment of the requirements for the
Bachelor of Music degree at 8:30 p.m.,
Fri., May 16, Architecture Auditorium.
Mrs. Dale studies with Emil Raab, vio-
linist', with the Stanley Quartet, and
will present compositions by Vitali,
Bach, JAndemith and Mendelssohn. The
general public is invited.
Events Today
New Religion-in-Life Program Policy
committee meets at Lane Hall, 4:30
p.m.
Modern Poetry Club. Meeting, 7:30
p.m., Conference Room, League. All
poems of Wilfred Owen included in
the Oscar Williams anthology will be
discussed. Mr. Greenhut of the English
Department will participate. This is
the last meeting of the year and mem-
bers are urged to attend. Guests wel-
come.
International Center Weekly Tea for
foreign students and American friends,
4:30-6 p.m.
Chess Club. Meeting, 8 p.m., Union.
La p'tite causette meets from 3:30 to
5 p.m. in the south room of the Union
cafeteria.
Literary College Conference Steering
Committee. 4 p.m., 1011 Angel Hall. A
new Chairman will be elected.
International Relations Club. Busi-
ness meeting, '7:30 p.m., League.
U. of M. Sailing Club. Meeting, 7:30
p.m., 311 W. Engineering. Election of
officers. Shore school for new members.
Saturday and Sunday-Midwest Col-
legiate Dingy Championships at Whit-
more Lake. Banquet, Sat., May 17, 7
p.m., Union.
Hillel Social Committee meets at 7:15
p.m. for a short meeting at the New
Rillel Building, 1429 Hill St. All mem-
bers and interested people are urged to
attend.
McLaughlin will speak on "Navigation
Between the Planets." After the lecture
in 3017 Angell Hall, the Students' Ob.
servatory on the fifth floor will be open
for telescopic observation of Saturn
and a double star, if the sky is clear, or
for inspection of the telescopes and
planetarium, if the sky is cloudy. Chil-
dren are welcome, but must be ac-
companied by adults.
The 46th Annual French Play' the
picture of the cast of "Le Monde ou
s'ennuie" is ready. Please call for i$ in
Room 112, Romance Languages Bldg.
Motion Pictures, auspices of Univer-
sity Museums. "Field Trip to a Fish
Hatchery," "Biography of a Fish," and
"The Crayfish." 7:30 p.m., Fri., May 16,
Kellogg Auditorium. No admission
charge.
All Business Education Students are
invited to participate in a special prob-
lems clinic on THE IMPROVEMENT OF
INSTRUCTION IN SHORTHAND AND
TYPEWRITING to be held Sat., May
17, 10 a.m., School of Business Admin-
istration. Louis A. Leslie, co-author of
Gregg Shorthand Simplified and Typ-
ing Simplified, will be the special re-
source person, and there will be a clinic
on "The Improvement of Instruction
in Shorthand." Luncheon meeting, 12:15
p.m., Union. Topic for afternoon clinic:
"What's New In Typewriting Instruc-
tion?"
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on the toes" of the minority fac-
tion.
Is not, Mr. Jaffe, religion par-
taken by the greater majority of
the students on this campus? And,
is not religion a type of study?
I think so.
As was pointed out in your sis-
ter editorial, Mr. Jaffe, the North-
west Ordinance under which our
state was founded makes very
strong hints at the fact that reli-
gion does have a place in our
schools. (Incidentally, this same
quote is the inscription on Angell
Hall.)
Religious study on an intellec-
tual college level is a missing part
of our effort to have "a well
rounded education" at this school
for it is one of the aspects of edu-
cation; and as long as the program
is not compulsory the minority
nonbelievers are not having their
rights abridged.
-Al Moore
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'Naked Fools' . .
To The Editor:
I MUST HAVE been mistaken,
but Friday afternoon I thought
I saw several members of the Joint
Judiciary Council making fools of
themselves, half-naked and cov-
ered with brick-ust, groveling in
the dirt and throwing water on
each other, in the space beside
the General Library, with several
hundred persons looking on. But it
could not have happened--it must
have been an illusion, because
there was President Hatcher look-
ing on with evident approval.
Surely, neither he nor the memo
bers of the Judiciary Council could
ever approve such publicity reek-
ing rowdyism.
I must be wrong in thinking I
saw this happen-otherwise I
would be forced to believe that
such action was what the Univer-
sity considered conduct becoming
a student. But, after all, when one
is informed that concern for the
concept of a liberal education is
unbecoming a student, one can be
led to make such a mistake.
-Dorothy MacKay
(Editor's Note: Ugh!)
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