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and Minnesota. Myers-Tapping.
Pro: Conference freshmen teams do
not play against each other. Wiscon-
sin sends a freshman crew to Poug-
keepsie and some Conference colleges
have sent freshmen to the Penn Relay
games. But the Conference rules do
not allow outside competition. Tap-
(Continued from page 1.)
Editor, The Michigan Daily:-
Your contention, that renewal of
athletic relations with the leading in-
stitutions of the middle west on the
part of Michigan is desirable, cannot
be objected to in the main. But are
only such institutions included in the
Conference? What, by way of pres-
tige, has Michigan to gain by recog-
nizing the equality of such schools as
Indiana, Purdue, Northwestern, Ohio
State or Iowa? Year in and year out
do they measure .up to a high stand-
ard? Take Iowa as an illustration.
Two years ago she withdrew from the
Missouri Valley Conference to cast
her lot with the "Big Nine." "In her
last appearance in the Missouri Val-
ley onference she did not place a man
in the track meet and her football
team never once secured the football
championship in that conference, yet
she withdrew in 1911 to be. received
in open arms by the Western Confer-
ence to help fill up the void made by
Michigan. This same year (or was it
1912?) the Western Conference track
meet was won at Minneapolis by the
University of Missouri, the Missouri
Valley champions of that year, and
Iowa didn't place a man. In fact the
sum total of all the points made by
the five weak sisters in the Confer-
ence meet that year scarcely made a
respectable decimal. ' They are indi-
vidually about one-third the size of
Michigan on an average. Northwestern
and Purdue as factors in the athletic
world are notoriously erratic and un-
stable. It *is this year up and the
next down. Indiana occupied the ig-
nominious lower round in the Con-
ference football standing last year.
She leaped into fame with a brilliant
pole vaulter a dozen years ago-and
she leaped right out again. The his-
tory of Ohio, with all due deference,,
has not been exceptionally luminous.
In each of the three states, Iowa, Indi-
ana, and Ohio, there are over twenty
institutions of higher learning-fos-
tered by church or independent man-
agements. In some cases the state
institutions are not the largest in the
state. The raw material is too evenly
divided to produce strong teams fit
for competition with us and they are
on this account doomed to perennial
mediocrity. What have we to gain?
Isn't there something in the old adage
that "we are judged by the company
we keep?" %
a I anticipate an objection that we
do not need to schedule games with
them-but if we don't who shall say
that we will not have their vengeance
to reckon with in the legislative ses-
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give up her training table.
R. E. A.,
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td, obviously the Conference would
ot last. The benefits of the Confer-
ice is competition with the greatest
diversities in the west, the penalty,
i) a breaking of the rules, is a denial
the best competition in the west.
The famous boycott rule is: "That
embers of this Conference agree not
hold athletic relations with univer-
ties or colleges that have been mem-
rs of this Cqnference and have
ithdrawn therefrom until reinstated
Anti::"The Conference boycott meas-
re prevents any Conference team
oom maintaining relations with Mich-
'an. Cornell stopped relations with
hicago because it preferred football
tines with Michigan and gave Chi-
tgo written notice to that effect. As
matter of fact a measure was in-
oduced at a Conference meeting lat-
' to stop the Chicago-Cornell games
id Chicago would not have been al-
wed to schedule any more inter-sec-
onal games had Cornell been willing.
Pro: 3. O.S.U. dropped Michigan in
)mpliance with the above rule. The
tile is not entirely a rule against
ichigan but a rule of self preserva-
on and a rule against any other
niversities that might want to with-
aw in the future. Toulme.
Chicago played Cornell under two-
ear contracts. The last part of the
uestion is to be answered by the vote
feach Michigan student. It should
e remembered, however, that there
re universities in the Conference
hich are, in their own states, con-
dered just as great as is Michigan
her state. Tapping.
4. I have heard that Chicago has a
'aining table that is run sub rosa.
this is true why should Michigan
Anti: It is. true that several Con-
ference teams maintain training tables
under the guise of clubs. A proper
training table such as we have at
Michigan costs the athletic association
from $9.00 to $9.50 per man. It is ob-
vious that many athletes could not
afford such conditioning unless assist-
ed by the association which is forbid-
den according to conference regula-
Pro: The Chicago training table is
not run sub rosa. The nearest thing
to a training table which is in opera-
tion in the Conference schools under
the sanction of a recently-passed Con-
ference rule is a training table by
"mutual agreement of the athletes."
The men, by agreement among them-
selves, meet at a common table where
they pay their own board. The coach-
es or trainers have nothing to do with
it. The cost is assumed entirely by the
athletes and is generally about $4.50
per week. Tapping.
5. Why would Michigan have to
give up her Freshman games and not
have a freshman schedule when Chi-
cago has Freshman team and plays
outside schools and Purdue and Indi-
ana play their 'freshmen teams togeth-
er? R. E. A., '13-'15M.
Anti: The Conference rules are:
"Freshman football teams and second
elevens shall play only with teams
from their own institutions." Michi-
gan must give up freshman team com-
petition if she returns to the Con-
6. What was the reason that Wis-
consin made. such an anti-conference
demonstration on the occasion of her
Chicago game last year? R. E. A.
We know nothing of this particular
demonstration though there have been
frequent reports of discontent within
the conference involving Wisconsin
sions of the Conference? They con-
trol a majoirty now-do the weak
sisters; they can outvote Chicago,
Minnesota, Illinois, and Wisconsin
this moment, and in case Michigan re-
enters, if either of the first two or
last two just mentioned chooses to
cast its lot with a disrespectful minor-
ity, our athletic destiny in spite of
us will be shaped according to their
mad fancy. It will be then for us
to chaff under restriction or bolt.
Michigan had found in one divorce
preceding disagreeable experience
We are not so bad off as we seem to
be. If ever athletic relations are to
be established between the East and
West it must be through Michigan.
This function, which our isolation
from the Western Conference has
thrust upon us, strikes me as not be-
neath our dignity. We are making
headway slowly but surely.
If a new Conference or alliance with
Chicago, Illinois, Nebraska, Wiscon-
sin and Michigan forming the constit-
uency is in contemplation, it would
seem to be the all wise course to cast
our destiny with+ them; but if we
must choose between the present 'stat-
us and the Conference dominated by
the weak sisters, in reason we must
abide' by the former.
BUELL McCASH, '15L.
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university aer now in the hands of
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cheers issued in Saturday's paper.
The yells will be judged by a com-
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o'clock in the oratory room on the
third floor of North Wing. At that
time all contestants must appear to
demonstrate their yells.
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ter. The line was the same as that
which started at Nashville with two
exceptions. Allmendinger was in at
right guard, and Musser at left tackle.
The men all came through the Van-
derbilt game in fair shape, and except
for Captain Paterson's "charley
horse" and Traphagen's bad legs, the
squad was none the worse for its trip.
James was not out last night, and
Bastian reported late, but the other
second string Varsity men were given
a short scrimmage against the scrubs,
who were defeated 18 to 0.
A forward pass, Bushnell to Tessin,
scored the first touchdown. Mead ran
back the kickoff 35 yards, and a series
of line plunges soon earned another
tally. Bushnell going the last eight
through center. Raynsford blocked a
scrub punt and Millard fell on the
ball for the last score.
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