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Pro: Conference freshmen teams do not play against each other. Wiscon- sin sends a freshman crew to Poug- keepsie and some Conference colleges have sent freshmen to the Penn Relay games. But the Conference rules do not allow outside competition. Tap- ping. COMMUNICATION. (Continued from page 1.) Editor, The Michigan Daily:- Your contention, that renewal of athletic relations with the leading in- stitutions of the middle west on the part of Michigan is desirable, cannot be objected to in the main. But are only such institutions included in the Conference? What, by way of pres- tige, has Michigan to gain by recog- nizing the equality of such schools as Indiana, Purdue, Northwestern, Ohio State or Iowa? Year in and year out do they measure .up to a high stand- ard? Take Iowa as an illustration. Two years ago she withdrew from the Missouri Valley Conference to cast her lot with the "Big Nine." "In her last appearance in the Missouri Val- ley onference she did not place a man in the track meet and her football team never once secured the football championship in that conference, yet she withdrew in 1911 to be. received in open arms by the Western Confer- ence to help fill up the void made by Michigan. This same year (or was it 1912?) the Western Conference track meet was won at Minneapolis by the University of Missouri, the Missouri Valley champions of that year, and Iowa didn't place a man. In fact the sum total of all the points made by the five weak sisters in the Confer- ence meet that year scarcely made a respectable decimal. ' They are indi- vidually about one-third the size of Michigan on an average. Northwestern and Purdue as factors in the athletic world are notoriously erratic and un- stable. It *is this year up and the next down. Indiana occupied the ig- nominious lower round in the Con- ference football standing last year. She leaped into fame with a brilliant pole vaulter a dozen years ago-and she leaped right out again. The his- tory of Ohio, with all due deference,, has not been exceptionally luminous. In each of the three states, Iowa, Indi- ana, and Ohio, there are over twenty institutions of higher learning-fos- tered by church or independent man- agements. In some cases the state institutions are not the largest in the state. The raw material is too evenly divided to produce strong teams fit for competition with us and they are on this account doomed to perennial mediocrity. What have we to gain? Isn't there something in the old adage that "we are judged by the company we keep?" % a I anticipate an objection that we do not need to schedule games with them-but if we don't who shall say that we will not have their vengeance to reckon with in the legislative ses- -1 16 'MAJESTIC The Great Picture "EVERYMAN" In Three Acts THURSDAY, FRIDAY, -Oc t301 COMING - Monday, Nov. 3 BENEFIT FOR BUILDING FUND AN ABO WoMan s Club One Night Only Special Extra Features TICKETS ON SALE NOW PRICES First 4 Rows Orchestra Balance . Balcony . Gallery .. . . Whitne Theatre ONE NIGHT TUESDAY u WINGFIELD AND RIDINGS Present (by Special Arrangement with Rowland &Clifford) WM. ANTHONY MGUIRU'S PLAY, with a Moral and a Purpose The Divorce 9llestiOll Presented by a Specially Selected Cast of Players and Splendid Scenic Investiture. 107 Times in Chicago I Whitne Theatre MATINEE-NICHT Wednesday, October 29th BERT ST. JOHN'S Merry Musical Farce of Dorothy WithA Cast of COMEDIANS and SINGERS Headed by Queenle Carilla as Dorothy $1.00 .75 .75-.50 .25 SEAT SALE SATURDAY. r o Parquet - Balcony Matinee: I 11 PRICES - 50c, 35c, 25c . . .25c 200 Adults .15, Children .10 MekIn Street i Question Box. give up her training table. R. E. A., (Continued from page 1.) td, obviously the Conference would ot last. The benefits of the Confer- ice is competition with the greatest diversities in the west, the penalty, i) a breaking of the rules, is a denial the best competition in the west. The famous boycott rule is: "That embers of this Conference agree not hold athletic relations with univer- ties or colleges that have been mem- rs of this Cqnference and have ithdrawn therefrom until reinstated erein. Toulme. Anti::"The Conference boycott meas- re prevents any Conference team oom maintaining relations with Mich- 'an. Cornell stopped relations with hicago because it preferred football tines with Michigan and gave Chi- tgo written notice to that effect. As matter of fact a measure was in- oduced at a Conference meeting lat- ' to stop the Chicago-Cornell games id Chicago would not have been al- wed to schedule any more inter-sec- onal games had Cornell been willing. yers. Pro: 3. O.S.U. dropped Michigan in )mpliance with the above rule. The tile is not entirely a rule against ichigan but a rule of self preserva- on and a rule against any other niversities that might want to with- aw in the future. Toulme. Chicago played Cornell under two- ear contracts. The last part of the uestion is to be answered by the vote feach Michigan student. It should e remembered, however, that there re universities in the Conference hich are, in their own states, con- dered just as great as is Michigan her state. Tapping. 4. I have heard that Chicago has a 'aining table that is run sub rosa. this is true why should Michigan '13-'15M. Anti: It is. true that several Con- ference teams maintain training tables under the guise of clubs. A proper training table such as we have at Michigan costs the athletic association from $9.00 to $9.50 per man. It is ob- vious that many athletes could not afford such conditioning unless assist- ed by the association which is forbid- den according to conference regula- tions. Myers. Pro: The Chicago training table is not run sub rosa. The nearest thing to a training table which is in opera- tion in the Conference schools under the sanction of a recently-passed Con- ference rule is a training table by "mutual agreement of the athletes." The men, by agreement among them- selves, meet at a common table where they pay their own board. The coach- es or trainers have nothing to do with it. The cost is assumed entirely by the athletes and is generally about $4.50 per week. Tapping. 5. Why would Michigan have to give up her Freshman games and not have a freshman schedule when Chi- cago has Freshman team and plays outside schools and Purdue and Indi- ana play their 'freshmen teams togeth- er? R. E. A., '13-'15M. Anti: The Conference rules are: "Freshman football teams and second elevens shall play only with teams from their own institutions." Michi- gan must give up freshman team com- petition if she returns to the Con- ference. Myers. 6. What was the reason that Wis- consin made. such an anti-conference demonstration on the occasion of her Chicago game last year? R. E. A. We know nothing of this particular demonstration though there have been frequent reports of discontent within the conference involving Wisconsin sions of the Conference? They con- trol a majoirty now-do the weak sisters; they can outvote Chicago, Minnesota, Illinois, and Wisconsin this moment, and in case Michigan re- enters, if either of the first two or last two just mentioned chooses to cast its lot with a disrespectful minor- ity, our athletic destiny in spite of us will be shaped according to their mad fancy. It will be then for us to chaff under restriction or bolt. Michigan had found in one divorce preceding disagreeable experience enough. We are not so bad off as we seem to be. If ever athletic relations are to be established between the East and West it must be through Michigan. This function, which our isolation from the Western Conference has thrust upon us, strikes me as not be- neath our dignity. We are making headway slowly but surely. If a new Conference or alliance with Chicago, Illinois, Nebraska, Wiscon- sin and Michigan forming the constit- uency is in contemplation, it would seem to be the all wise course to cast our destiny with+ them; but if we must choose between the present 'stat- us and the Conference dominated by the weak sisters, in reason we must abide' by the former. BUELL McCASH, '15L. MORE THAN TWENTY YELLS SUBMITTED TO CHEER EDITOR More than twenty new cheers, sub- mitted by students and alumni of the university aer now in the hands of the cheer editor of The Michigan Dai- ly as the result of the call for new cheers issued in Saturday's paper. The yells will be judged by a com- mittee tomorrow afternoon at 4:30 o'clock in the oratory room on the third floor of North Wing. At that time all contestants must appear to demonstrate their yells. Dr. W. P. Lombard, of the medical deartment, has been appointed by President Harry B. Hutchins to rep- resent this university at the inaugura- tion of Lyman P. 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The line was the same as that which started at Nashville with two exceptions. Allmendinger was in at right guard, and Musser at left tackle. The men all came through the Van- derbilt game in fair shape, and except for Captain Paterson's "charley horse" and Traphagen's bad legs, the squad was none the worse for its trip. James was not out last night, and Bastian reported late, but the other second string Varsity men were given a short scrimmage against the scrubs, who were defeated 18 to 0. A forward pass, Bushnell to Tessin, scored the first touchdown. Mead ran back the kickoff 35 yards, and a series of line plunges soon earned another tally. Bushnell going the last eight through center. Raynsford blocked a scrub punt and Millard fell on the ball for the last score. The Overcoat Question You can't dodge it Don't shiver and snuffle I IT'S THE Cover up now Students' Supply Store We are well equipped to serve you. WAGNER & CO. 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