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against sexual orientation or (whether to) include
sexual orientation as part of affirmative action...
the University must take a stronger stance to in-
dicate it will not tolerate discrimination of them
and to protect those groups.
D: Few political protests, in which campus
security is involved, run their course without in-
volved students claiming security officials have
overstepped their authority, harassed, or even
brutalized students. In fact, one student has sued
the University for the actions taken by one secu-
rity officer. In light of student-perceived disillu-
sionment with campus security, should any
security officers be deputized?
JD: The University is the only university in
the country in which some form of either deputi-
zation or campus police structure is not in place.
And I'm not necessarily convinced we're the
ones that are right and everyone in the United
States is wrong. I also, however, believe student
protest is a very valuable component of an insti-
tution like this and is an important part of educa-
tion. So there may be other ways to make certain
abuses on either side do not occur. One of the
more interesting ones that has been suggested is
the use of observers, which has been done at a
number of universities - Berkeley has done it
-- in which student and faculty are assigned a
job when protests occur of observing in a neutral
fashion and then providing a report. But again,
even if that occurs, we'll continue to have on one
side where security people say they were abused
and on the other side where student protesters
say they were abused. And it's just characteristic
of the unfortunate nature of confrontation which
D: If officers were deputized, it would be
through the sheriff's office, which observes state
law - specifically, the law regarding marijuana,
which conflicts with Ann Arbor's $5 pot law.
JD: Wow, that's a good one. I can't imagine
- that was certainly not the intent. When this
was discussed with the executive officers, there
was never any intent of using it in the area of
D: The CIA has been accused by students as
being a terrorist organization. Students say the
University ignores and effectively endorses the
organization's criminal acts by allowing the CIA
to recruit future employees on campus. Will the
University investigate charges against the CIA to
set its record straight?
JD: I can assure you that as many students
who are concerned about the CIA there are an
equal number of students iftnot more who view it
important that they have the right to interview
with the CIA. I don't see how the University can
conduct any kind of investigation to determine
right or wrong any more than we could investi-
gate Proctor and Gamble or a major investment
securities firm that comes onto campus. That's
not the role of the University. The role of the
University is one of openness. At this point we
have to provide opportunities for our students to
interview with groups they wish to. In a sense,
we are not responding to the particular needs of
the CIA or to General Motors or to IBM. We are
trying to respond to desires of our students. And
as long as there are students on campus that de-
sire an interview with the CIA, the University
should respond to that.
D: Would you be in favor of establishing
guidelines to exclude groups on the basis of cer-
tain criteria, for example, as being terrorists?
JD: Again, it strikes me as being somewhat
analogous to providing certain parameters
around what kind of speakers you would allow to
be invited to campus. It's important to provide
students and the University community with ac-
cess to a broad spectrum of ideas and a broad
spectrum of opportunities. We are attempting to
be responsive to desires of the student body. It's
always very awkward to get into any kind of an
evaluation process like this for an institution with
simply no capacity to do that.
D: Who do you like in the presidential race
- Bush or Dukakis?
J D: Who are they? Part of the difficulty is
that I don't think either candidate has really
come down and stated clearly how they're going
to approach the most important issues for this
country. I haven't seen enough of either candi-
date to make that judgement. My view of Bush is
that he is still in Reagan's shadow. My view of
Dukakis is he's a governor the state of Mas-
sachusetts would be delighted to become presi-
D: Why do you make so much money?
JD: Do I make a lot of money? Compared to
my colleagues in the medical school I don't
make much money at all. The compensation
level of a president is set primarily relative to
peer institutions. It is the case that if I were a
chief executive officer of a billion-and-a-half-
dollar corporation, I would be making probably
five to ten times as much as I'm making right
now. In fact, I've had the opportunity to do that
in the past. But I've found the academic life
much more challenging. I'll be quite candid and
say that I have never negotiated a level of com-
pensation of salary in my life for myself, which
my wife sometimes thinks that I haven't been
aggressive enough. And in this case the level of
compensation is set by the board of regents to be
consistent both with what President Shapiro had
earned earlier and with what other presidents at
major public institutions around the country re-
ceive. So it's really set more than anything else
outside of the environment of the institution.
An expanded "There is an increasing sense that
code of non- abdication of (the University's)
academic responsibility for moral develop-
ment is not appropriate. Educa-
COnduCt tion occurs outside the classroom
as well as within."
Presidential "Who are they? My view of Bush
Canidates is that he is kind of in Reagan's
shadow. My view of Dukakis is
he's a governor that the state of
Massachusetts would be delighted
to become president."
His Salary "Compared to my collegues in the
($130,000+) medical school, I don't make
much money at all. If I were a
chief executive officer of a billion-
and-a-half-dollar corporation, I
would be making probably five to
ten times as much as I'm making
right now. In fact, I've had the op-
portunity to do that in the past."
Divestment from "If the autonomy issue can be
South Africa resolved, there seems to be some
evidence to suggest that the re-
mainder of the portfolio would be
divested. But the autonomy issue
is a very important one to the in-
stitution and to its quality."
Universijty "Really it involves as much as
Eniertanything else respect and under-
ducation standing and appreciation of
diversity, seeking diversity rather
than simply tolerating it."
Student "While I think there have been
-ciimmany people who have expressed
serious concern, I think the vast
majority of our campus has been
quite apathetic and has not
participated as they should in
moving together toward this
objective of diversity."
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