By JANET RAE
The fate of the University's physical
therapy department and the status of
Othe Graduate Employees Organization
remained up in the air following the fir-
st half of the monthly Regents meeting
About 30 GEO supporters formed an
occasionally raucous backdrop to the
public comments portion of yesterday's
meeting in an effort to discourage the
Regents from appealing a recent
Michigan Employment Relations
THE DECISION said graduate
student assistants are legal employees
of the University and have the right to
bargain collectively. University of-
ficials had previously refused to
negotiate with GEO, which represents
graduate student assistants, on the
grounds that GSAs are students, not
The MERC decision requires the
Regents to either file an appeal with the
state appellate court before Nov. 24 or
accept the GSAs' employee status and
begin honoring a contract negotiated
with GEO in 1976.
*Today's final monthly session is the
University's last opportunity to file an
appeal, Neither the Regents nor
University administrators were willing
to speculate yesterday on whether the
issue will be included in today's agen-
Regents not to
THREE PEOPLE addressed the
Regents concerning GEO's status,
Hugh Jarvis, president of the Michigan
Federation of Teachers-with which
GEO is affiliated-urged the Regents
"to go on public record to reestablish a
relationship with the Graduate Em-
"The only respect we get is the
respect we demand," graduate student
David Marker told the Regents. He said
he is dropping out of the University
because of the financial hardships
brought on by "below subsistence
wages and 48-hour work weeks."
Graduate student Barbara Joos
reminded the Regents that the MERC
decision is the third time a legal
has resulted in a pro-GEO decisio
"WE'RE PREPARED to work
long as it takes," she said. "Shou
choose not to work with us, be for
ned we do not intend to give up
Also yesterday, Vice Preside
Academic Affairs Billy Frye to
Regents about alternatives th
ministration is examining before
siders the medical school's recor
dation to discontinue the ph
Frye said a final recommen
should be ready within the nex
weeks, in time for Regents to ta
tion at their December meeting
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battle final decision could be deferred to the natives to elimination, including
n. January meeting if necessary, he said. relocating the department to another
for as "THERE OUGHT to be compelling area on campus, such as the physical
ild you reasons not to accept their (the education department.
rewar- medical school's) recommendation," "It could even be made stronger by
and go Frye said. this transfer," Frye said. "But we
He said a number of aspects-in- would have to recognize that there
nt for cluding the economics of various alter- would be no real budget reduction."
ld the natives, the service needs of the state Another option under investigation,
te ad- and nation, the 'impact on affected Frye said, is moving the program to the
it con- units, and the maintenance of a high University's Flint campus. He said that
mmen- quality medical program-have to be while Flint Chancellor Conny Nelson
ysical examined before a final recommen- "expressed strong interest" in the
dation can be made. move, the suggestion was still in the
dation Frye outlined a number of alter- preliminary stages and would have to
be approved by the Flint faculty.
By ANDREW CHAPMAN
University faculty members want to
know what protections tenure will
guarantee them in upcoming plans for
retrenchment, Richmond Browne,
University music professor said
yesterday at the Regents meeting.
Browne, who spoke during the Senate
Advisory Committee on University Af-
fairs discussion with the Regents, said
faculty members were concerned about
retaining the economic assurances of
tenure, as well as 'the academic
freedom it guarantees.
UNIVERSITY Medical School Prof.
Ronald Bishop also said yesterday that
ambiguities in Regents guidelines for
discontinuance of academic programs
at the University need to be clarified.
Bishop said one ambiguity was in
definition of the word "program."
Bishop said a problem may arise when
a smaller unit within the University is
being considered for elimination. If the
definition of program is left vague then
"it becomes legitimate for ad-
ministrators to single out as a program
one member of the faculty."
Bishop said the committee on
academic affairs, of which he is a
member, did not want to see discon-
tinuance guidelines applied to a single
person when the real issue is the com-
petence of the individual and not the
quality of the program he or she
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MUSIC PROF. Richmond Browne speaks at yesterday's Regents meeting.
He told Regents that faculty members are concerned about what tle Univer-
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RB ANDfREW'U CHAPMNAN
"Do we have to throw rocks at windows
fos you to listen to us?" Margaret
Talmers, LSA student government vice
president, asked the Regents yester-
"We're banging our heads against
these brick walls...the student
frustration and anger is real and
growing," Talmers said.
TALMERS SPOKE during the public
comments session of the November
*Regents meeting to voice students'
concerns about increasing class size,
greater University emphasis on
research, and the Regents' refusal to
pay attention to students' questions.
Studenlts have had no input in Univer-
sitypolicy, Talmers said.
"Every month people come here (to
Regents meetings) and make
statements. Often times it doesn't
*seem that you're listening a whole lot,"
TALMERS SAID that as freshper-
sons and sophomores, University
students are made to sit through lec-
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program would require increased ex-
penditures of some $18 million.
But,. Frye said, revenues probably
would not increase anywhere near the
While an increase of some $35 million
has been requested, Frye said, "it
*seems much more realistic to expect
that our state appropriation might -at
best - be between 8 and 12 percent, for
a revenue increase between $11.3 million
and $15.3 million."
"Some expect that even 8 percent is
optimistic," Frye said. "It might well
be even lower."
tures filled with 500 people, but are
promised that as juniors and seniors
their classes will be much smaller.
"But there are 400 level classes given
with 50 to 100 students and only one
professor," Talmers said.
Talmers also said she was concerned
with the increased level of research
being sponsored by the University.
Talmers claimed that when professors
get heavily involved in research they
have less time for teaching.
"TEACHING IS not important, at
least it is becoming second to research.
Even LSA Dean Peter Steiner refers to
the U of M as a researchuniversity,"
"Is teaching a priority here at the
University?" Talmers'asked the
Jamie Moeller, a member of LSA-SG,
also spoke at the public comments
session. Moeller talked on the Univer-
sity's policy of "smaller and better."
THE REGENTS "are now faced with.
a University community which is
distrustful of present policies and is
frustrated with its lack of influence,"
Moeller said each time the University
community has come before the Regen-
ts with constructive criticism its advice
has been ignored. Moeller cited the
administration's elimination of the
geography department last summer as
an example of how faculty and student
input into decision making on the
smaller and better program has "not
"I am not excited about the prospect
of organizing 500 or 1,000 students to
stage sit-ins or strikes, and I assume
you aren't thrilled about the idea
either," Moeller continued.
MOELLER GAVE the Regents three
proposals that could be used to incor-
porate students into the smaller and
better planning process.
The first proposal called for the for-
mation of a university advisory plan-
ning council," which would be com-
prised of three students, three faculty
and two other administrators, whose
mission would be to guide the Univer-
sity in its implementation of the
smaller and better plan.
The second proposal called for the
establishment of regular meetings bet-
ween students and members of the
Committee on Budget Administration.
The CBA is the executive budgetary
arm of the University administration.
The third proposal calls for the
University administration to issue a
report outlining what is planned for the
further implementation of the smaller
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