GEO By JANET RAE The fate of the University's physical therapy department and the status of Othe Graduate Employees Organization remained up in the air following the fir- st half of the monthly Regents meeting yesterday. About 30 GEO supporters formed an occasionally raucous backdrop to the public comments portion of yesterday's meeting in an effort to discourage the Regents from appealing a recent Michigan Employment Relations Commission decision. THE DECISION said graduate student assistants are legal employees of the University and have the right to presses bargain collectively. University of- ficials had previously refused to negotiate with GEO, which represents graduate student assistants, on the grounds that GSAs are students, not employees. The MERC decision requires the Regents to either file an appeal with the state appellate court before Nov. 24 or accept the GSAs' employee status and begin honoring a contract negotiated with GEO in 1976. *Today's final monthly session is the University's last opportunity to file an appeal, Neither the Regents nor University administrators were willing to speculate yesterday on whether the issue will be included in today's agen- Regents not to da. THREE PEOPLE addressed the Regents concerning GEO's status, Hugh Jarvis, president of the Michigan Federation of Teachers-with which GEO is affiliated-urged the Regents "to go on public record to reestablish a relationship with the Graduate Em- ployees Organization." "The only respect we get is the respect we demand," graduate student David Marker told the Regents. He said he is dropping out of the University because of the financial hardships brought on by "below subsistence wages and 48-hour work weeks." Graduate student Barbara Joos reminded the Regents that the MERC decision is the third time a legal has resulted in a pro-GEO decisio "WE'RE PREPARED to work long as it takes," she said. "Shou choose not to work with us, be for ned we do not intend to give up away." Also yesterday, Vice Preside Academic Affairs Billy Frye to Regents about alternatives th ministration is examining before siders the medical school's recor dation to discontinue the ph therapy program. Frye said a final recommen should be ready within the nex weeks, in time for Regents to ta tion at their December meeting pichigpn Dily-Friday, November 20, 1981-PageS battle final decision could be deferred to the natives to elimination, including n. January meeting if necessary, he said. relocating the department to another for as "THERE OUGHT to be compelling area on campus, such as the physical ild you reasons not to accept their (the education department. rewar- medical school's) recommendation," "It could even be made stronger by and go Frye said. this transfer," Frye said. "But we He said a number of aspects-in- would have to recognize that there nt for cluding the economics of various alter- would be no real budget reduction." ld the natives, the service needs of the state Another option under investigation, te ad- and nation, the 'impact on affected Frye said, is moving the program to the it con- units, and the maintenance of a high University's Flint campus. He said that mmen- quality medical program-have to be while Flint Chancellor Conny Nelson ysical examined before a final recommen- "expressed strong interest" in the dation can be made. move, the suggestion was still in the dation Frye outlined a number of alter- preliminary stages and would have to xt two ke ac- g. The be approved by the Flint faculty. Faculty voices Nudustinians tenure ( By ANDREW CHAPMAN University faculty members want to know what protections tenure will guarantee them in upcoming plans for retrenchment, Richmond Browne, University music professor said yesterday at the Regents meeting. Browne, who spoke during the Senate Advisory Committee on University Af- fairs discussion with the Regents, said faculty members were concerned about retaining the economic assurances of tenure, as well as 'the academic freedom it guarantees. UNIVERSITY Medical School Prof. Ronald Bishop also said yesterday that ambiguities in Regents guidelines for discontinuance of academic programs at the University need to be clarified. Bishop said one ambiguity was in definition of the word "program." Bishop said a problem may arise when a smaller unit within the University is being considered for elimination. If the definition of program is left vague then "it becomes legitimate for ad- ministrators to single out as a program one member of the faculty." Bishop said the committee on academic affairs, of which he is a member, did not want to see discon- tinuance guidelines applied to a single person when the real issue is the com- petence of the individual and not the quality of the program he or she represents. Doily Photo by JACKIE BELL MUSIC PROF. Richmond Browne speaks at yesterday's Regents meeting. 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TALMERS SPOKE during the public comments session of the November *Regents meeting to voice students' concerns about increasing class size, greater University emphasis on research, and the Regents' refusal to pay attention to students' questions. Studenlts have had no input in Univer- sitypolicy, Talmers said. "Every month people come here (to Regents meetings) and make statements. Often times it doesn't *seem that you're listening a whole lot," Talmers said. TALMERS SAID that as freshper- sons and sophomores, University students are made to sit through lec- Frye says 'U' budget *no better (Continued from Page 1) program would require increased ex- penditures of some $18 million. But,. Frye said, revenues probably would not increase anywhere near the rate necessary. While an increase of some $35 million has been requested, Frye said, "it *seems much more realistic to expect that our state appropriation might -at best - be between 8 and 12 percent, for a revenue increase between $11.3 million and $15.3 million." "Some expect that even 8 percent is optimistic," Frye said. "It might well be even lower." tures filled with 500 people, but are promised that as juniors and seniors their classes will be much smaller. "But there are 400 level classes given with 50 to 100 students and only one professor," Talmers said. Talmers also said she was concerned with the increased level of research being sponsored by the University. Talmers claimed that when professors get heavily involved in research they have less time for teaching. "TEACHING IS not important, at least it is becoming second to research. Even LSA Dean Peter Steiner refers to the U of M as a researchuniversity," Talmers said. "Is teaching a priority here at the University?" Talmers'asked the Regents. Jamie Moeller, a member of LSA-SG, also spoke at the public comments session. Moeller talked on the Univer- sity's policy of "smaller and better." THE REGENTS "are now faced with. a University community which is distrustful of present policies and is frustrated with its lack of influence," Moeller said.' Moeller said each time the University community has come before the Regen- ts with constructive criticism its advice has been ignored. Moeller cited the administration's elimination of the geography department last summer as an example of how faculty and student input into decision making on the smaller and better program has "not been heeded." "I am not excited about the prospect of organizing 500 or 1,000 students to stage sit-ins or strikes, and I assume you aren't thrilled about the idea either," Moeller continued. MOELLER GAVE the Regents three proposals that could be used to incor- porate students into the smaller and better planning process. 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