PA GE SIX
THE MICHIGAN D41FLY
SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 6, 1965
PAGE SIX THE MICHIGAN DAILY SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 6. 196~
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ed that the Hutchinson act and
its amendments do not apply to
Vive-President for Business and
Finance Wilbur K. Pierpont sent
a letter declaring on behalf of the
Regents that the act as amended
"does not apply to the University
and that the labor mediation board
has no jurisdiction to require the
University to comply with its pro-
visions." The letter requested the
board to ,dismiss the petitions.
The board then set up a formal
hearing for Nov. 23 where the
board will take up the University's
and union's petitions.
Personnel Director Charles All-
mand explained that the media-
tion board had been in contact
with the administration and knew
that the University would not
attend the October meeting.
"We had discussed the problem
thoroughly and they were inter-
ested in our position on the con-
stitutionality of the act," he said.
Rep. Robert Dingwell (D-Lan-
sing) on Oct. 7 then asked At-
torney General Frank Kelley for
a written opinion of the act.
Deputy Attorney General Leon
S. Cohan explains that his office
is presently writing their opinion
and that it should be out in a few
weeks. The opinion will state their
decision on whether University
employes are covered in the act.
Cohan stresses the advisory na-
ture of the opinion. Only the
courts can judge the constitution-
ality of the act.
Ben Moore, president of Local
1583 of the American Federation
of State, County and Municipal
Employes (AFL-CIO) says that
his union will also be filing a
petition with the board next week.
Presently al of the parties con-
cerned are waiting for Kelley's
opinion. Edward Kantzler, presi-
dent of the Washtenaw County
Construction Trades Council and
business agent for Teamsters Un-
ion Local 247, says that the me-
diation board would probably
adopt the opinion of the attorney
general, but that the board's de-
cision can be reversed by the
"Whichever way the board de-
cides either the University or the
unions will appeal the decision to
the courts. Eventually this case
will reach the Michigan Supreme
Court where the whole mess will
be resolved finally," he added.
Since the University did not
attend the meeting, union of-
ficals have been charging the Uni-
versity with being anti-labor. This
is not true, Personnel Director
"The University has always had
a good relationship with the two
unions (Building Service Union
and Local 1583) it has been deal-
ing with over the years. We are
not anti-labor, and will gladly go
along with whatever is decided.
"The University is not fighting
the unions, but questioning the
constitutionality of the Hutchin-
son Oct," Allmand stresses.
He notes that in cooperating
with the unions the University
has taken the union dues out of
the employes paychecks and has a
grievance procedure which gives
every employe the right to select
a representative, union or other-
wise, to assist in the processing of
"The original three petitioners
have never come here and talked
to us and discussed what they are
interested in and conditions here.
The only communication we've
had with them is a routine letter
from one of the unions telling
us it was filing a petition."
University attorney William
Lemmer says that the Regents
have never considered themselves
covered by the Hutchinson act,
either the original or amendments.
"Regardles of the Hutchinson
Act, it is illegal in every state
for a public employe to strike
against the public employer,"
Lemmer says that the Legis-
lature could not infringe on a
the University, by enacting legis-
lation which gave an administra-
tive body-the labor relations
board-jurisdiction over the Uni-
versity as provided in the Hutchin-
Lemmer points out that the
problem arises out of the new
constitution which is very vague
on the matter of public employ-
ment and labor unions. In Article
4, section 48 talks about the re-
solving of public employes disputes,
but there is no history or debate
on the extent of intent of this
provision in the record of the
He contends that this is a test
case which is not directed against
the labor unions or the Legisla-
ture but whose sole purpose is to
clarily the constitution so that
the University will know its legal
Bursley recalls that in the de-
bate on Public Act 379 the issue
of whether universities would be
%:overed by the act never came up.
He says however, that the prob-
lem over this case has come up
because for the first time in 30
years the Democrats control the
Legislature and that the passage
of this bill probably has a dif-
ferent intent than when the orig-
inal Hutchinson Act was passed.
"Because of the ambiguous
statements in the bill and the
constitution, the University has
the right to make a test case out
of this issue in order to get clari-
fication from the Supreme Court,"
Ben Moore (of Local 1583) sees
two problems in the issue. There
is the immediate issue of whether
University employes can have a
collective bargaining agent, and
then, if the decision is for the
unions, the problems of choosing
agents for the workers.
Moore, however, points to
Michigan State University, which
in late September, recognized an
AFL-CIO local as the exclusive
bargaining representative of the
employes in the grounds depart-
Edward Kantzler of the Wash-
tenaw Trades council said his
group represents 18 different
unions all of whom claim to rep-
resent some segment of the Uni-
versity employes. He said Team-
sters Local 247 represents about
90 per cent of all bus drivers,
laundry drivers, dispatchers and
grounds men. The building trades
union has about 99 per cent of
the plant department while Moore
claims to have 400 workers from
the hospital in his union.
Officials of the unions have
stressed that ,they are initially
seeking recognition through the
courts, but they will also con-
sider striking ultimately in order
to win their case.
At the moment all sides await
the attorney general's opinion as
a guide to further action. For the
University employes the issue is
whether they can be represented
by the unions. For the University
and the Legislature the important
question is what is their proper
share of authority.
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Thus the law school must pay
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hour, while the pharmacy school,
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must pay $68.14 per credit hour.
What does the report show
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Looking just at the budget fig-
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lows appear to be bearing the load
of instruction. While the budget
provides for an average of a 194.4
credit-hour load per faculty mem-
ber, the average for teaching fel-
lows was 226.8 hours per semester.
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are engaged in teaching, assistant
professors have the heaviest loads,
being responsible for 228.2 credits
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nificantly increased, especially on
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The total cost of educating a
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1960 to $17.80 in 1964, while the
cost of educating a doctoral can-
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tion because, "first, many people
worked hard in getting the sig-
natures and I felt that I did not
have the right to withhold them.
Secondly, my goal was not to
initiate a poll but to pass a legis-
lative motion that would be passed
by the student body."
Hornberger said he wanted a
vote that would show the exact
percentage of students who sup-
ported the administration's policy
in order to combat the image that
many people have of the Univer-.
sity student. However, Stanley
Nadel, '66, said that "this is a
meaningless vote because the
wording will naturally foster a
100 per cent "yes'' vote because
the motion asks the voters if they
think the student body is in agree-
ment with the government's policy
instead of what the individual
voter thinks about our policy."
Daniels agreed with Nadel because
"the statement is open to many
More meanings. The voter may
agree with part of our Viet Nam
Policy but disagree with some
BothNadel and Daniels felt
that a preference poll vote would
have been far superior to the un-
qualified yes-no votebecause it
would have been more compre-
hensive and revealing.
The majority of Council mem-
bers shared this feeling and pass-
ed a motion stating that "SGC
objects to the consideration due
to the unqualified commitment
necessarily connected with a vote
either way on this referendum.
SGC shall subsequently present
results through either a respon-
sible student opinion poll, by a
professional organization or other
According to SGC member
Mickey Eisenberg, '67, another
motion might be brought up that
would resemble a preference poll.
If passed; by a two-thirds vote by
SGC, it would also go on the
ballot and its supporters would
urge voters to ignore Hornberger's
Arthur Coulingsworth, '67, a
leading campus supporter of John-
son's policy, felt that the new
referendum is more desirable be-
cause it will show how the stu-
dents feel about administration
policy and how many deplore it.
Collingsworth views the issues as
a magnet which will pull students
to the voting booths in order to
vote on the referendum and for
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