PA GE SIX THE MICHIGAN D41FLY SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 6, 1965 PAGE SIX THE MICHIGAN DAILY SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 6. 196~ I View Regents' Role in Employment a A MflV (Continued from Page 1) ed that the Hutchinson act and its amendments do not apply to universities. Regent's Reply Vive-President for Business and Finance Wilbur K. Pierpont sent a letter declaring on behalf of the Regents that the act as amended "does not apply to the University and that the labor mediation board has no jurisdiction to require the University to comply with its pro- visions." The letter requested the board to ,dismiss the petitions. The board then set up a formal hearing for Nov. 23 where the board will take up the University's and union's petitions. Personnel Director Charles All- mand explained that the media- tion board had been in contact with the administration and knew that the University would not attend the October meeting. "We had discussed the problem thoroughly and they were inter- ested in our position on the con- stitutionality of the act," he said. Legal Opinion Rep. Robert Dingwell (D-Lan- sing) on Oct. 7 then asked At- torney General Frank Kelley for a written opinion of the act. Deputy Attorney General Leon S. Cohan explains that his office is presently writing their opinion and that it should be out in a few weeks. The opinion will state their decision on whether University employes are covered in the act. Cohan stresses the advisory na- ture of the opinion. Only the courts can judge the constitution- ality of the act. Ben Moore, president of Local 1583 of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employes (AFL-CIO) says that his union will also be filing a petition with the board next week. Presently al of the parties con- cerned are waiting for Kelley's opinion. Edward Kantzler, presi- dent of the Washtenaw County Construction Trades Council and business agent for Teamsters Un- ion Local 247, says that the me- diation board would probably adopt the opinion of the attorney general, but that the board's de- cision can be reversed by the courts. "Whichever way the board de- cides either the University or the unions will appeal the decision to the courts. Eventually this case will reach the Michigan Supreme Court where the whole mess will be resolved finally," he added. Anti-Labor? Since the University did not attend the meeting, union of- ficals have been charging the Uni- versity with being anti-labor. This is not true, Personnel Director Allmand emphasizes. "The University has always had a good relationship with the two unions (Building Service Union and Local 1583) it has been deal- ing with over the years. We are not anti-labor, and will gladly go along with whatever is decided. "The University is not fighting the unions, but questioning the constitutionality of the Hutchin- son Oct," Allmand stresses. He notes that in cooperating with the unions the University has taken the union dues out of the employes paychecks and has a grievance procedure which gives every employe the right to select a representative, union or other- wise, to assist in the processing of a grievance. "The original three petitioners have never come here and talked to us and discussed what they are interested in and conditions here. The only communication we've had with them is a routine letter from one of the unions telling us it was filing a petition." University attorney William Lemmer says that the Regents have never considered themselves covered by the Hutchinson act, either the original or amendments. "Regardles of the Hutchinson Act, it is illegal in every state for a public employe to strike against the public employer," Lemmer added. Constitutional Independence Lemmer says that the Legis- lature could not infringe on a constitutionally-established body, the University, by enacting legis- lation which gave an administra- tive body-the labor relations board-jurisdiction over the Uni- versity as provided in the Hutchin- son Act. Lemmer points out that the problem arises out of the new constitution which is very vague on the matter of public employ- ment and labor unions. In Article 4, section 48 talks about the re- solving of public employes disputes, but there is no history or debate on the extent of intent of this provision in the record of the convention. Text Case He contends that this is a test case which is not directed against the labor unions or the Legisla- ture but whose sole purpose is to clarily the constitution so that the University will know its legal sphere. Bursley recalls that in the de- bate on Public Act 379 the issue of whether universities would be %:overed by the act never came up. He says however, that the prob- lem over this case has come up because for the first time in 30 years the Democrats control the Legislature and that the passage of this bill probably has a dif- ferent intent than when the orig- inal Hutchinson Act was passed. "Because of the ambiguous statements in the bill and the constitution, the University has the right to make a test case out of this issue in order to get clari- fication from the Supreme Court," he adds. Labors Problems Ben Moore (of Local 1583) sees two problems in the issue. There is the immediate issue of whether University employes can have a collective bargaining agent, and then, if the decision is for the unions, the problems of choosing agents for the workers. Moore, however, points to Michigan State University, which in late September, recognized an AFL-CIO local as the exclusive bargaining representative of the employes in the grounds depart- ment. Edward Kantzler of the Wash- tenaw Trades council said his group represents 18 different unions all of whom claim to rep- resent some segment of the Uni- versity employes. He said Team- sters Local 247 represents about 90 per cent of all bus drivers, laundry drivers, dispatchers and grounds men. The building trades union has about 99 per cent of the plant department while Moore claims to have 400 workers from the hospital in his union. Eventual Strike? Officials of the unions have stressed that ,they are initially seeking recognition through the courts, but they will also con- sider striking ultimately in order to win their case. At the moment all sides await the attorney general's opinion as a guide to further action. For the University employes the issue is whether they can be represented by the unions. For the University and the Legislature the important question is what is their proper share of authority. i iuo )e'inyurWtcr 1r%)i c tl 4 i Explains Increases In Education Costs (Continued from Page 1) Thus the law school must pay only $21.37 per student credit hour, while the pharmacy school, with its much smaller classes, must pay $68.14 per credit hour. What does the report show about who, in fact, teaches most students? Looking just at the budget fig- ures in the report, teaching fel- lows appear to be bearing the load of instruction. While the budget provides for an average of a 194.4 credit-hour load per faculty mem- ber, the average for teaching fel- lows was 226.8 hours per semester. Of those faculty members who are engaged in teaching, assistant professors have the heaviest loads, being responsible for 228.2 credits per semester. While a full professor is often engaged in activities outside the classroom, the report states, "when he does teach, he is the most productive teaching staff member of any rank." Full professors teach an average of 331.9 credit hours per semester out of an average of 257 hours for all teaching staff. Of course, more goes into the cost of educating students than just the instructors who teach them. Clerical costs and equipment replacement and repair also con- tribute to the final amount the University must pay to teach its students. On this basis, the total cost of teaching one credit hour has sig- nificantly increased, especially on the upper levels. The total cost of educating a freshman has risen from $16.02 in 1960 to $17.80 in 1964, while the cost of educating a doctoral can- didate has risen from $107.87 to $146.81 in the same time. Go ahead. Be rebellious. Demand more "big" in your big car. And get it at a price that won't take a big bite out of your budget. 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