THE MICHIGAN DAILY
Thursday, October 16, 1969
Page Six
THE MICHIGAN DAILY Thursday, October 16, 1969
panels iscuss
doctors' role in war
By JASON STEINMAN
Two themes were discussed in yesterday's medical sym-
posium held in the hospital amphitheater - the doctor's role
in war, and the education of a more community-conscious
physician.
The three panel discussions at the amphitheater and a
discussion on nuclear warfare held at the Medical Science
Bldg. were part of the medical center's moratorium against
the war program.
The first two discussions about war and medicine were
espousals of personal opinions on medical morals. Conscien-
tious objection of doctors
Il *against the draft was briefly
D isPUpI ons discussed in the first group.
Methods of evasion were men-
justified by tioned, but no decision was reach-
ed about unified medical action.
Dr. Robert Green, associate dean
prof ssor(- of the medical school, commented
)rof ssor only on doctors' responsibility
I while in the war and not on his
By SHARON WEINER moral commitment to it.
Philosophy professors Frithjoh Dr. Edward Pierce, '59, a private
Bergmann, Robert Adams, and physician and two students were
DergannRobrt Aamsandalso on the panel.
George Mavordes spoke on t h e
A second group discussed the
justification of disruptve tactics doctor. the war and war medicine.
to an audience of over 250 in An- Dr. Andrew Zweifler, associate
gell Hall yesterday. professor of internal medicine,
"Disruptions are justified until opened the discussion with t h e
, statement that war was an anti-
we have a just society," said Berg- medical practice.
mann. "As long as we think the de-m
bHe then posed questions to lthe
gree of justice in society can be members of the panel dealing with
improved by disruptive tactics, the emotional consequences of the
those tactics with qualifications war, the physician's responsibili-
are "morally right." ty to the war and the organization
"Those Awho object to domestic of doctors to endorse or denounce
the war.
violence must also object to the
Vioenemse wato becnsstnt" hAll the doctors agreed to the ad-
Vietnamese war to be consistant' verse effects of war. However,'
lie added. Doctors Duane Glatz and J o e 1
"Disruption is justified when the Rosenthal, b o t h Vietnam veter-
good to be obtained f r o m it is ans and residents in neurology,
greater than the harm it causes. were opposed to organizing against
said Mavordes. "However, the use the war to help end it.
of disruptive tactics lowers t h e "There will always be a war,,
threshhold of intolerance of a said Glatz. "The nature of man is
group, and this gives them a tacti- to fight. This is pessimistic, but'
cal advantage which is soon rec- I'm afraid it's true. I don't think
ognized and sought after by oth- a doctor should close his eyes to
er groups." the needs of people on the battle-
"Violence is the worst of all ways field by refusing to go."
of settling disagreement," Adams The final panel discussed the
argued. "It is unwise to use dis- development of the socially con-
ruptive activity in a society where scious physician.
comparatively good means of po-
litical decision-making exists." Despite initial disagreements.
Violence is almost never advan- mliydocewsothaelexprete
tageous, but disruption often does with ideas of students who were
some good, he added. at the symposium. Many students
Following the speeches, about 50 believed the major obstacle to im-
of the audience remained to par- plementation of new ideas-lack of
ticipate in a question-answer ses- communication between faculty
sion. and students -- had been reduced.
CLASSIC ISSUES RAISED:
Thucydides and Vietnam
-Daily-Jay Cassidy
Crowds Ut to see 1aO t I i a Lovely War'
10,000. sign petition
By JANE BARTMAN
The Michigan Petition Drive for
Peace yesterday gathered over
10,000 signatures and brought out
500 workers from the community.
The drive, which began in Ann'
Arbor with 2,000 names and
worked towards a goal of 15,000,
was called "very successful" by
history Prof. Sam Bass Warner.
The petition, which calls for an,
immediate cease-fire and with-
drawal of all U.S. troops and mil-
itary supplies from Vietnam by
July 4th, was circulated in Sa-
line, Brighton, Ypsilanti, Tecum-
seh, Pontiac, and Houghton, as
well as Ann Arbor.
In addition, a peace parade was
held in Birmingham and speakers
were provided from Cranbrook
and Birmingham schools.
Two signatures are "X"s from
elderly ladies in Saline who
could not write their names.
"These are the signatures that
I value most," said organizer'
Bruce Reynolds. "When I hear
that even those ladies are opposed
to the war. I feel encouraged."
The drive was organized in Ann
Arbor as a result of the Sept. 19-
20 teach-in and now people work-
ing on it have offices in three
other communities.
It will continue in five other
congressional precincts-numbers
7, 11, 14, 18 and 19-working to-'
wards a goal of 15,000 names per,
precinct. The petitions will be
used for discussion with state and
federal congressmen on their po-
sitions concerning the war, and
eventually Xeroxed and sent to
the White House at an appro-
priate time.
By HESTER PULLING
"The moral, economic, polit-
ical and social problems raised
by Thucydides are as true now
as they were then." history Prof.
David Steinberg told a sympo-
sium- yesterday.
In the midst of yesterday's
moratorium and its contempo-
rary thought, the relationship
between the writings of the
Greek historian and America's
involvement in Vietnam formed
the center of discussion for
Steinberg. classical studies Prof.
John D'Arms and well over 100
students.
Thucydides raised a problem
of the use and need of power.
"Power causes people to do
things not justifiable except as
a means to gain more power,"
Steinberg said.
Athens had definite imperial-
istic attitudes when expanding
her boundaries, and Thucydides
was interested in the moral as-
pects involved.
The Greek started his career
fully believing that "Athens'
greatness justified her imperial
attitudes and c o n qu e s t s,"
D'Arms said but in later life
modified this assertion.
The concept that a country's
strength determines its' right
to "use and misuse" power was
applied in the symposium to
both Athens and the United
States.
The attempt to operate on a
power based policy results in
"a power simply getting more
power and never being satis-
fied" Steinberg said. "One must
ask when it is right for us to
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The history professor continued,
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some situations and condemn it
in others?"
Steinberg asked if it was a
general and necessary law of
human nature to rule whenever
it can. If human nature needed
power then war could provide
a necessary function, he an-
swered himself.
D'Arm added jokingly, "Italy,
after a thousand years of war
produced Michelangelo; Swit-
zerland, after a thousand years
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 16
Say Calendar
International Symposium of Remote
Sensing of Environment: First Ses-
sion: Rackham Amphitheater, 8:30 a.m.
Department of Speech (Student Lab
Theater): Birthday Present and Purga-
tory: Arena Theater, Frieze Building,
4:10 p.m.
William W. Cook Lecture On Amern-
cao Institutions: Politics Of Change-
W. Willard Wirtz, Former U.S. Secre-
tary of Labor, "Tyranny in the Dia-
logue": 100 Hutchins Hall, 4:15 p.m.
Geography Seminar: Professor Kirk
Stone, Dept. of Geography, Univ. of
Georgia, "World Fringes of Settle-
ment", 4050 LSA, 4:15 p.m.
Center for Continuing Education of
Women: Orientation To The University
Libraries: Lobby, Undergraduate Lib-
rary, 7:30 p.m. (Registration at Center
requested).
Chemistry Colloquium: Dr. Ed Janz-
en, Univ. of Georgia, "Detection and
Identification of Short Lived Organic
Free Radicals by ESR Spin Trapping";
1300 Chem, 8:00 p.m.
Degree Recital: Metro Kozak, violin:
School of Music Recital Hall, 8:00
p.m.
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of peace produced the cuckoo
clock.'
Steinberg also raised the issue
of the historian's role in inter-
preting history.
"The historian builds a frame-
work, and upon that structure
a whole- generation of people
formulate their ideas of that
period," Steinberg said. The pro-
fessor felt that this idea shouid
be kept in mind when judging
past events and attitudes, as
well as those of the present.
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-A VIETNAM MEMORIAL
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the MARCH AGAINST DEATH a single file solemn procession
of 43.000 persons carrying the individual names of the American
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will begin at midnight Nov 13 and end at 10:00 a m. Nov .15
will leave Arlington Cemetery proceed past the White House.
and end at the steps of the Capitol. The March will close with a
Memorial service and the participants can then take part in the
Mas March scheduled for I -00 a m. The Michigan delegation
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must register with:
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