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AGE TEN

THE MICHIGAN DAILY

SUNDAY, OCTOBER 1, 1967

SUNDAY, OCTOBER 1, 1967

TH5 MICHIGAN DAILY

The Starting Salaries!
For Mich. EngineersI

A Placement Interview Can Work for You

General Division Offers Wide
Opportunities for Lit Students
.

IY PROGRAMS
eronomy...........
aerospace ............
ppliet Mechanics ...
3io-Engineering .....
:hemical ............
7ivil ................
'ommunication Science
electrical ........... .
ngineering Mechanics
engineering Physics.
ndustrial.
nformation & Controls
vlaterials ............
Math (Applied & BS)
vechanical ..........
4etallurgical .........
veteorology &
Oceanography......
Naval Arch. & Marine
quclear ..............
?lanet. & Space Science
Science.............

BS
No. Aver.

MS
No. Aver.
5 $887

Ph.D.
No. Aver.

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13
6
17
1
3
15
1
3
33
1

$718
743
730
728
700
703
725
750
678
721
725

2
10
6
1
18
2
5
2
17
2

888
832
818
835
840
888
868
897
864
848

2 $1133
1 1063
2 1275{
1 1125

3
1

1292
1250

(Continued from Page 9)
work was thorough and very ac-
curate, and both asked me to re-
turn to the job following sum-
mer." Score one for frankness and
three for responsibility, accuracy
and giving satisfaction in prev-
ious jobs.
Be ready to give an answer to
the question, "What do you plan
to be doing ten years from now?"
It's a favorite. A popular alterna-
tive question is "How much mon-
ey do you expect to be earning in
ten years?" The purpose is to de-
termine your ambition, ability to
plan ahead, and the soundness of
your thinking. Do you want, va-
guely, "to get ahead?" Or are you
going somewhere in particular?
Never make a slighting refer-
ence about a former employer or
a professor. If something went
wrong, suggest that at least some
of the blame must have been your
own.
Conduct yourself as if you are
determined to get the job you
are discussing. You have other
irons in the fire, of course, and
the recruiter is aware of that.
But he wants to think that you
want a job with his company. If
you play coy nobody may take
you.
He may steer the conversation
into politics or economics. This
can be a ticklish situation. Hard-
any recruiter will ask which poli-
tical party you prefer. Rather, he
is likely to try to sound out your
overall economic philosophy. Dif-
ferences of opinion are a part of
our heritage of freedom. But the
job interview is no place for a
political speech. Be honest, of
course, in what you say, and don't
be evasive. However, at least in
this one instance, try not to say
more than is necessary to ans-

wer the recruiter's broad line of'
questioning. If you can agree in
general with him, fine. If you
stray off into talking about your
pet enthusiasms you may hang
yourself in the particular.
Try to avoid giving the im-
pression, if you possibly can, that
you have come in to look over
the possibilities, and that you are
not yet sure what you want. Don't
say, "I'll do anything if I'm given
the chance to learn," or "I don't
know what I want to do-I hope
you can suggest something."
Wherever possible, apply for a
specific job or field of work. If
there is no opening in the line
you suggest, the way you present
what you have to offer may well
lead the interviewer to suggest
another job or department, per-
haps even better than the one
you were seeking. For this reason
it is not advisable to get too far
out on a limb by saying you will
not consider anything but one
certain job.
If the courses you took have
not led you into preparation for
a specific field of work, don't on
that account, pass up chances for
interviews. But research on a
company will better help you pre-
sent your broad qualifications in
the light of the company's-needs.
If the company has a training
program, you will naturally want
to express interest in it.
Show the interviewer that you
are interested, that you appreci-
ate the opportunity he is giving
you to present your case, and
that you realize the demands on
his time.
Ask some definite questions
about the company. Don't ask so
many that the recruiter thinks
you are afraid of work or are
hesitating at the thought of join-

9 750
1 680

1 875

4 1203

rotals ...............
BY INDUSTRIES

120 $725
BS
No. Aver.

71 $853
MS
No. Aver.
14 $869
14 860

14 $1210
Ph.D.
No. Aver.
3 $1270

kerospace &
Components .........33
automotive & Mech.
Equipment ..........20
Themical, Drugs &

$723
732

ing his company. But do show
your interest. Have in mind two
or three questions you want to
ask about the company before
you report for the interview. Also
keep in mind two or three good
reasons why you are interested
in this particular employer. The
chances are excellent that you
will be asked for your reasons.
Stick to the subject at hand.
Don't let yourself wander away
on a tangent because you like
the sound of your own voice. ,
If you are asked if you've ever
been fired-and you have been-
frankness again is the answer.
Tell him you've learned from
your mistakes. Also, there is the
possibility you got into a wrong
job through a misunderstanding.
If you get the impression that
the interview is not going well
and that you have already been
rejected, don't let your discour-
agement show. You have nothing
to lose by continuing the appear-
ance of confidence, and you may
gain much. The last few minutes
often change things. Once in a
great while an interviewer who
is genuinely interested in your
possibilities may seem to discour-
age you in order to test your re-
action. If you remain confident
and determined you have prob-
ably made a good impression.
Don't take notes in an inter-
view if you can help it. This is
annoying and distracting to some
recruiters. If you feel that you
must write something down,
make some remark such as:
"That's very interesting. Do you
mind if I make a note of it?" The
best policy is to note on paper
immediately after the interview
everything you want to be sure
to remember.
If you are given application
forms be certain that they are
filled out completely and neatly.
A messy application form can
create as bad an impression as
personal untidiness.
What if you so impress the in-
terviewer, or his company is in
such need of recruits, that he
offers you a job on the spot? If
you are absolutely sure it is the
one you want, accept with a defi-
nite yet. If you have the slightest
doubt-if you do not want to
accept without further thought
(or further interviews), play for
time. You must not embarrass
the person who has made you
the offer. Be courteous and tact-
ful in asking for time to think it
over. Try to set a definite date
when you can provide an answer.
This will reassure him that you
are giving his offer serious con-
sideration. Above all, don't create
the impression that you are play-
,rng one company off against the
other to drive up the bidding.
As further evidence of your
interest, you may have the op-
portunity to arrange a trip to the
(Continued on page 11)

Helping students and alumni Introduction Cards present job or promotion, rank
find jobs, both during the summer Cards will be given to you to and salary, If you don't, how can
and on a permanent basis after introduce you to people you wish we help you?
graduation, is the chief function of to interview outside the Bureau Commupnications
the Bureau of Appointments. offices. You may have as many as Reply promptly to all commun-
Students seeking such employment you need. ications from the Bureau.
are invited to register with the Company Literature Marriage
Bureau and to maintain there an We have literature available to Women must notify the Bureau
active file on their credentials. The you at any time for some 2000 of their change of name when
Bureau in turn can recommend companies and government agen- they marry. When corresponding
them to prospective employers and cies, and various directories of with us subsequently, use both
make appointments for them to be employers. maiden and married name. Also,
interviewed by representatives of Credentials when you make application to em-
business, government, and educa- We will send your credentials ployers, use both maiden and mar-
tional institutions who come to anywhere, any time, at your re- ried names, since your University
campus for this purpose. quest or that of an employer, ex- records are probably under your
The Bureau of Appointments cept to commercial employment maiden name.
has offices on the third floor of agencies. Your credentials include Correspondence
the Student Activities Building. It the Personal & Professional Data, Always answer letters from
holds occasional meetings for stu- Courses Pursued, and Recommen- prospective employers promptly.
dents interested in employement, dations. It does not include a You may think your name means
regularly inserts notices of job transcript. If a transcript is re- nothing to an employer, but
opportunities and interviews in quired, request it from the Office chances are your failure to res-
the Daily Official Bulletin (in the of Registration and Records. Em- pond will be remembered if you
Michigan Daily), and notifies can- ployers sometimes come to the later wish to renew the contact
didates by mail or telephone of in- office to look at credentials before or application.
dividual interviews. a job opening is announced, for further information
Therefore, it is good to have your ureauiofAointments
the Bureau offers you: credentials on file here -and up Bureau of Appointments
Intevies wih Eploers o dte.3200 Student Activities Bldg.
Interviews with Employers to date.rb ormation'Lists Ann Arbor, Michigan 48104
Interviews with all types of or- Durin the school year we mail 764-7460 (A.C. 313)
I th scoolyea, wemai OficeHours_ 8:30-12 &
ganizations and government agen- During fic ous8:012&
cies are scheduled throughout the a weekly list of interviews to stu- 1:30-4:30
school year. Watch the Daily Of- dents registered with us. After With fall barely underway it
ficial Bulletin in the Michigan graduation, we mail regular lists seems early to be thinking about:
Daily for announcements. You of positions available to all thosegraduation and what comes next.
should appear for the interviewso uaiv But it isn't any to soon to register
dressed as you would if you were Alumni with The Bureau of Appointments.
interviewing in the employer's own Our service to you does not stop Interviews started the week of
office - ties and coats for men, when you graduate. We get calls Spebr2.Anme fcm
ocking and hlort flatsef, for people all during the year, September 25. A number of com-
stocking and heels or flats for any of them for people with ex- panies and government agencies
womenperience. Your record is a per visit the campus only in the fall.
Contacts mnanent one, and cumulative, soAI employers expect to see a
Names of people to contact that youmay add yourlate so-jplacement record for each student{
within organizations. and ad- perience. Alumni who did not reg- interviewed. Therefore the Bureau
dresses for all types of positions ister when they weire in school urges you to get your registration
and locations are available to you. may do so at any time. packet at their office, 3200 Stu-"
If we don't have them, we canSmrPoateme dent Activities Bldg., complete the
usually get them for you. I Summer Placement necessary forms and return them;
Positions Available Wm also have a Summer Place- to the office at your earliest con-
Em ent Service, which is open from venience, so that employers can
Employersregularlnotifyur hrh Ma.forfall Uni-.---------------- -4 ,,----+

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(Continued on page 11)
IffEVEMAMD
HAS AN
ENGINEERING CHALLENGE
WAITING FOR YOU
Expansion and development programs of The Cleveland
Twist Drill Co., offer immediate placement for Engineering
graduates in ME, IE, and Metallurgy.
The Cleveland Twist Drill Co. is a medium sized, multi-
plant internationally known leader in the manufacture of metal
cutting tools, having foreign as well as domestic manufacturing
operations.
Openings at the headquarters plant in Cleveland include
the following positions:
PRODUCT DESIGN ENGINEER
Individual and group project responsibility in design, application
and development of metal cutting and threading tools. Cus-.
tomer engineering as required by development of new tooling
programs by industry. Some travel.
MANUFACTURING ENGINEER
Determination of new or impoved manufactuing processes, eco-
nomic justification of machinery, writing machine tool specifi-
cations, debugging and cycling of equipment.
MACHINE DESIGN ENGINEER
Creative assignments in design of special metal cutting and
forming machines, includes writing specifications, making pre-
liminary layouts, supervising designers and draftsmen and
follow-up debugging.
METALLURGICAL ENGINEER
Product and process development, product performance and
evaluation, applied research in tool materials and other labora-
tory and engineering projects concerned primarily with high
speed steel, tungsten carbide and related alloys.
These are challenging positions offering immediate respon-
sibility and advancement opportunity to B.S. and M.S. graduates.
Principal fringe benefits include profit sharing, relocation
assistance, retirement program and full reimbursement of edu-
cation tuitions.
Make an appointment today to meet our representatives
when they visit Michigan on October 5.
rT.w C'ZLEELAND TWIST DRILL co.
.PLO. Sox 666 - c3ewe axd, Ohio 4#101
A Plans for Progress Company

units of the University's Bureau
division, general division, career
placement office.
would like assistance in prepar-
ing for the job interview, it is
recommended that an appoint-
ment be made to see the career
counselor in the Bureau of Ap-
pointment be made to see the
career counselor in the Bureau
of Appointments.
A browsing library of occupa-!
tional and educaional materials
is available for those who are
searching for specific information

THIS IS THE Student Activities Building

of Appoi
counselin
relative
tions of
register
pointme
counselo
formatic
The U
vided cc
service t
ates. WI
it? ALL
TO REG

The "J" is silent in SCHJELDAHL
. . . but that's all. Schjeldahl is young, ambitious, aggressive,
determined, new product minded, technically oriented, sound,
professional and 100% on the go. With a growth record to prove
it. This means DIVERSITY, RESPONSIBILITY and OPPORTUNITY
for young college graduates. Interested: See the Company rep-
resentative on January 22 at your placement office.

sales, application,
marketing
research & development
administration
manufacturing 1

physics
plastics
chemistry
aerospace
electronics

of positions open within their or- 4 lVC 11Vg1lly V I 11
ganizations. A list is made of all versity students. There are calls
ganiatins. lit i mad ofallfrom cantpus, resorts, businesses
positions and is kept on file at the fndcgpurentsgenes es
Burau oryou us a an tie.and government agencies, both
Bureau for your use at any time. technical and non-technical. Read
Also watch the D.O.B. the D.O.B. for notices.
Federal & State
Civil Service Notices VOU must help yourself:
We have notices of current Keep Appointments
openings within the Civil Ser- After you are given contacts
vices and other government agen- or appointments, it is up to you
cies, information about many to write letters of application and
government agencies, about many appear for interviews. In the case
application forms, and schedules of interviews scheduled at the
of examination dates. Watch the Bureau of Appointments, if you
D.O.B. for these notices. decide not to interview, you must
Interviews with Office Staff cancel your appointment by 4 p.m.
Career counseling is available ; the day before. Failure to make
to you at any time during your such cancellation may mean loss
years on campus. This is to help of privilege to interview here.
you learn of various career fields Recommendations
and their requirements. After you Get your letters of recommen-
have made some choices, we willI dations in to the B u r e a u
give you contacts, and assistance promptly. They are important for
in making applications. Office interviews.
interviews help us to know you Current Information
better and to assist you more Keep the Bureau up to date on
personally. your current address, telephone,

engineering

nave the information they expect
to have from you.
For those who are having dif-
ficulty in making career plans or

SUBSCRIBE TO THE MI(

Minnesota, Rhode island, New Jersey, United Kingdom
Schjeldahl Company
G.T.SCHJELOAHL COMPANY "NORTHFIELD, MINNESOTA 55057
"Putting tomorrow's materials to work today"

You have given the University several years as a st
not give us 30 minutes mnore?
IN 30 MINUTES WE CAN:
1. Discuss career opportunities in non-
academic positions at the University
related to your area of interest.
2. Describe the unprecedented growth of
the University and how it will benefit
you as an employee.
3. Point out examples of other young grads
who have joined our staff and have
been rapidly promoted.
4. Thank you for coming in to talk with us

,

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E NGINEERS.
A representative from the Jervis B. Webb Company will be on
Campus-
OCTOBER 5, 1967
Graduating Students-Opportunities are excellent for those who
desire a career in the Material Handling Industry and are in-
terested in diversification of training in all product areas-from
designing to wherever your abilities carry you in this exciting
industry.
STOP AND TALK WITH HIM
OCTOBER 5, 1967
AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER

OHIO DEPARTMENT OF HIGHWAYS
I NTER VIEWEIMG
ENGINEERS
November 8, 1967
REGISTER AT PLACEMENT OFFICE
Career Opportunities in Planning,
Design, Construction and Operations
TRAINING PROGRAM
LOCATIONS-] 2 Field Divisions and Columbus Office
Headquarters and Assignment of Choice
Major Program-Exceeded by only one other state

We believe your 30 minutes will be
a good investment in your future.
Areas of employment include:

W0

Accounting
Finance
Purchasing
Personnel
Programming
Laboratory Technology

Medical Technology
Nursing
Dietetics
Engineering
Editorial
Assistants in Research

Set up on interview date at your convenience by contacting:

Mr. Jim Gimotty
Recruitment Coordinator
or
Mr. Dick Daggett
Employment Supervisor
Central Personnel
1020 Administration Bldg.
764-7282

Mr. Bill Eaton
College Recruiter
Medical Center Personne
A6001 University Hospit
764-2175

AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER

"Mimi

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