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Engineering and Nursing students discuss
losing credits after cross-campus transfer
Those changing schools within the University often have to take additional semesters
KRISTINA ZHENG
Daily Staff Reporter
University
of
Michigan
students
transferring
between schools or colleges
on the Ann Arbor campus
struggle
to
bring
their
credits with them, leading
many to take on additional
semesters
to
fulfill
distribution requirements.
Carmela Brown, associate
director
of
the
Newnan
Academic Advising Center,
detailed
the
policies
for
students undergoing cross-
campus transfer. Regardless
of the school or college,
students are required to
fulfill
the
requirements
implemented by the school
or college they transfer into,
Brown explained in an email
to The Daily.
“Each
academic
undergraduate
unit
determines the requirements
and policies to uphold the
integrity of their degree,”
Brown
wrote.
“When
a
student moves from one
unit to another through a
cross-campus transfer, the
student is required to follow
the
policies
determined
by the unit which could be
different for each school or
college.”
According to Brown, in the
Fall 2019 and Winter 2020
semesters,
approximately
120
students
transferred
cross-campus to LSA. Most
of these students had a
minimum of 30 credits when
they transferred since most
remained in their original
school or college for a year,
Brown explained.
LSA
sophomore
Tess
Eschebach transferred from
the College of Engineering
to LSA at the end of last
semester.
Eschebach
told
The Daily her decision to
transfer to LSA was due to
the School of Engineering’s
highly technical curriculum.
“I
didn’t
want
to
be
doing technical stuff full-
time,” Eschebach said. “The
College of Engineering is
structured in such a way that
even with flexible technical
electives that they have in
the EECS department, it’s
like you’re still taking all
technical classes with little
time to take any humanities.
I wasn’t really vibing with
that.”
Engineering
students
often take the same courses
during their first two years,
including LSA courses like
Math 115, Chemistry 130 and
Physics 140 and Engineering
courses
like
Engineering
100, among others. Many of
these courses do not transfer
to
fulfill
distribution
requirements
in
LSA,
according to Eschebach.
“In
the
College
of
Engineering, your schedule
is
basically
planned
out
for you, like from day one,”
Eschebach said. “I remember
I was super stressed this
semester because I could
take anything. And I was like
that is so stressful because,
in Engineering, you literally
come into Engineering with
your first years planned
out. And once your major
is declared, your next two
years are planned out …
And none of that stuff really
directly translates to LSA
credit, so I guess that could
be a big problem as well.”
Brown said Engineering
students
generally
enroll
in LSA classes in their first
year to fulfill Engineering
requirements. Other courses
taken through the School
of Engineering would be
considered non-LSA credits,
only 20 of which would count
towards an LSA degree.
“Engineering
students
are
usually
taking
LSA
classes in their first year as
part of their Engineering
requirements such as math,
physics
and
chemistry,”
Brown wrote. “Therefore,
they usually have not maxed
out of the non-LSA credits.
The College does recognize
the degree requirements and
competencies required of all
LSA students which include
the students who transfer to
LSA.”
Likewise,
transferring
into the School of Nursing
from LSA requires a set
of
prerequisite
courses
students must take before
applying, including English
125,
Psychology
111
and
Biological Chemistry 212,
among others. If students
choose
to
take
courses
outside of these prerequisites
in LSA, the credits earned do
not transfer to the Nursing
School.
Nursing sophomore Alissa
Elanjian
transferred
to
the Nursing School after
her freshman year in LSA.
Elanjian
knew
from
the
start of her freshman year
she would be applying to the
Nursing
School,
allowing
her to tailor her LSA courses.
“The Nursing School only
accepted 30 to 35 transfer
(students), so I did not have
a very high chance of getting
in,” Elanjian said. “So I did
take a big risk by applying
because all of my classes in
freshman year were focused
towards the Nursing School.
So if I did not get into the
Nursing School, the only
classes that would make
sense were the Stats 250 that
I took in LSA and the English
course I took in LSA.”
Another
concern
for
students transferring from
the College of Engineering
is that many of the credits
they’ve
accumulated
through
Advanced Placement or dual
enrollment
credits
only
count toward Engineering
distribution
requirements.
They do not apply to LSA
distribution
requirements,
Eschebach explained.
“For
my
humanities
distribution, I was able to
knock most of it out with AP
credit, but in LSA, it doesn’t
count,” Eschebach said. “So,
like, that’s a difference that
I know no LSA students are
getting that credit, but it’s
really kind of jarring moving
from Engineering, where it
was fulfilling distribution
requirements, and now it’s
not. And now, I’m stuck in a
lot of 100 level courses.”
As
an
Engineering
student, Eschebach would
have been able to graduate
in three years with her AP
credits and dual enrollment
transfer credits. Now in
LSA, she will most likely
graduate in five years.
“I’m going to be here a
while,” Eschebach said. “I
was just continually pushed
into doing Engineering, so I
never really thought about
doing anything else … it’s
been a lot exploring for me,
a lot of confusion in what I
want to do … I’m sure I’ll
have extra time just because
of distribution as well.”
Reporter Kristina Zheng
can be reached at krizheng@
umich.edu