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He also said each campus gets

individual funding from the state of

Michigan and sets its own tuition rates.

He said the U-M Flint and Dearborn

campuses’ tuition are around 80

percent of the cost of tuition for the

Ann Arbor campus.

Schlissel said there are different

communities on each campus, and this

is reflected in the faculty on the three

campuses. He said Ann Arbor is part

of a global market, while U-M Flint

and Dearborn are focused on hands-on

education for students from the areas

they are located in.

“It wouldn’t really be either right

or good for Flint or Dearborn for me

to sit here in Ann Arbor and tell them

how they should spend their money and

who they should be serving,” Schlissel

said. “I don’t think if we had three

Ann Arbors, one of which was in Flint

and one of which was in Dearborn, we

wouldn’t be serving the people of the

state the same way or as well, as if we

have one global research university and

two regional campuses that are much

more local in their focus.”

He said he oversees the chancellors

at U-M Flint and U-M Dearborn, but the

campuses are ultimately different with

only partially overlapping populations.

Schlissel noted the University’s Ann

Arbor campus is the most selective

university campus in the state and

the Flint and Dearborn campuses are

accessible to a broad range of students

within their communities.

Part of this, he said, is because

the Ann Arbor campus is noticeably

comprised of students who come from

wealthier
backgrounds,
while
the

Dearborn and Flint campuses better

reflect the diversity of the state in the

student populations on those campuses.

He said this was one reason for the

creation of the Go Blue Guarantee on

the University’s Ann Arbor campus.

“The demographics of the campuses

are different, so they really are three

very
distinguishable
campuses,”

Schlissel said. “The socioeconomic

diversity of Flint and Dearborn much

more closely mirror the diversity of

our state, whereas Ann Arbor is skewed

much more to students from wealthier

background. The reason we’ve begun

the Go Blue Guarantee here is to try to

improve the socioeconomic diversity of

students here on this campus.”

1U listed the Go Blue Guarantee’s

nonexistence at U-M Dearborn and

Flint as one main campaign issues,

though 42 percent of U-M Dearborn

students and 39 percent of U-M Flint

students are eligible for the Pell Grant,

a federal grant awarded to high-

achieving students with financial need.

Schlissel said financial aid is a priority

of all three campuses and a higher

percentage of students receive financial

aid at U-M Flint or Dearborn compared

to students at the University’s Ann

Arbor campus.

Schlissel
also
addressed
1U’s

complaints over the University’s Flint

and Dearborn campuses not receiving

any of the $85 million earmarked for

Diversity, Equity and Inclusion over

five years nor any of the $1 billion in

funding for student support from the

Victors for Michigan campaign. He

said the three campuses have separate

fundraising and budgets for these

University services and act differently

within the contexts of the campus.

According to Schlissel, leaders from

each campus have the opportunity to

lobby independently for more resources

to be allocated to their respective

campuses and plans to continue to

work with those leaders to increase

funding
allocations
for
all
three

campuses. Additionally, he said he

would like the state to increase direct-

to-student
financial
aid,
meaning

a student can receive a need-based

scholarship directly from the state that

can be taken to whichever university

the student chooses to attend.

“We’re lobbying together to try to

grow the pot for each campus, keeping

in mind each campus serves different

communities
and
has
different

resources come to it,” Schlissel said.

“I’m committed to working with Flint

and Dearborn to grow their state

allocation at the same time we work

to grow the state allocation for Ann

Arbor.”

Carbon Commission

Schlissel then addressed questions

concerning
student,
faculty
and

corporate involvement in his new

Commission on Carbon Neutrality. At

the beginning of February, Schlissel

officially announced the charge and

members of his new Commission on

Carbon Neutrality. The commission

will define a goal and clarify the

parameters for the University to

achieve carbon neutrality, looking to

achieve and surpass the University’s

2011 goal of a 25 percent carbon

emission reduction from the 2006

standard by 2025.

Noting the presence and direct

involvement
of
students
on
the

commission, Schlissel said the shared

motivation between students and other

commission members will be beneficial

for the productivity of the board.

“We share the same goal,” Schlissel

said. “The goal is to figure out as

quickly as possible how to put us on a

pathway to becoming carbon neutral in

a way that’s sustainable, that allows us

to continue our mission and continue

to be an attractive place to come and

study and to learn and to do research,

and to do it in a way that serves as an

example and in collaboration with the

city around us, the county, the state,

and to do it as a permanent rather than

a short term fix.”

The
committee,
composed
of

University
students
and
faculty

members, also includes two members

from
major
energy
corporations.

According to Schlissel, the members

were meticulously chosen for their

input.

“I quite purposefully asked those

two
major
energy
companies
to

suggest someone they thought would

be helpful, and the reason why is they

provide the overwhelming amount of

energy throughout our state and region

and to say we don’t want to hear their

thoughts and learn their plans because

of their emissions of greenhouse gas,”

Schlissel said. “They’re not going

away, they are the major suppliers of

electricity for the University, the city of

Ann Arbor, et cetera, so ignoring them

because of past behavior, I don’t think

that serves any purpose.”

Schlissel also noted that the two

corporations, DTE and Consumers

Energy, have personal incentive to

improve their sustainability practices.

“Each of those companies recognizes

that they are as adversely affected by

global climate change as the University

is,” Schlissel said. “Their business may

go out of business because of it and

they’re incentivized how they are going

to shift from non-renewables and high

carbon to low carbon sources of energy.

One of them, DTE, their CEO told me

our trajectory to get to 80 percent

carbon free in their renewables in their

portfolio over the coming decade so I

would like to understand how they’re

going to do this at the scale of the

state of Michigan in a place where it

gets to be minus 30-degree wind chill

factors in the winter, so I wanted their

expertise.

He also noted that because the

individuals from the energy industry

only make up a small portion of

commission, he is not too concerned

about
their
opinions
being
too

domineering.

“The two industry folks are two

members of a 16-person commission

advisory so I’m not incredibly worried

about the thoughtful students and

the faculty and the campus leaders

being overwhelmed by two people of

industry.”

According
to
Schlissel,
the

commission’s first town hall will be a

good opportunity for pressing student

issues and concerns to be recognized.

“I’d
love
to
understand
which

questions
are
front-of-mind
for

students,” Schlissel said. “In the

flipside, I’d love the students to see the

thoughtfulness and seriousness with

which the members of the commission

are taking this really important task.”

Felony Self-Disclosure

The University has implemented

a new policy this February requiring

members of the community to disclose

all charges and convictions of felonies

within a week of the charge or

conviction. The policy applies to all

faculty and staff, including student

employees, volunteers and visiting

scholars. According to the policy,

those who do not disclose felonies will

potentially face serious consequences,

possibly including dismissal.

While University officials have said

the policy was intended to ensure

campus safety, some have raised

concerns with the policy. Those against

the policy say it infringes on rights,

unfairly targets minorities, adds to

invasive hiring procedures and lacked

community input.

According to Schlissel, the creation

of the policy is motivated by student

and faculty safety, however there is

a challenge to ensure the process is

conducted in a fair way.

“The core of the policy change is

to make sure we can provide a safe

environment on our campus, in our

health system, in all the different

things we do as possible,” Schlissel

said. “I think the advocates are very

correct to be concerned about the

disproportionate impact of the legal

system on different subpopulations in

our country. I think the evidence that

that happens is incredibly strong. What

we have to balance is being fair to every

individual employee or applicant one

person at a time, with the responsibility

to keeping our community safe.”

Though he agreed it is a challenge

to maintain fairness in the process,

Schlissel said disclosing felony charges

or convictions is important to ensure

specific people are not a risk to certain

positions on campus.

“Let’s
say
we
have
somebody

working in the Treasurer’s Office

of the University that had been

convicted or charged elsewhere with

embezzlement, with stealing money,

and they do the same thing here and

we never asked (about the charge or

conviction),” Schlissel said. “It’s not an

unreasonable thing for an employer to

know whether a particular job a person

is doing poses a particular risk based on

them having been charged or convicted

of a serious crime — not a trivial crime,

but a serious crime. The challenge, in a

way, is how to do that in a way that isn’t

unfair to people.”

While the policy requires all faculty

to report these felony charges or

convictions, Schlissel said the findings

are not always applicable, depending on

the job the individual has.

“Just because you’ve been convicted

of a serious crime doesn’t mean you

should never work — you have to be able

to support yourself,” Schlissel said. “So

the idea is to do this as a confidential

process where the leadership and our

campus-wide human resources group

looks at these self-reports and says,

‘Well, this person was arrested or

convicted or a crime that has nothing

to do with their job, they’re not a risk,

we’re going to keep that information

confidential, the supervisors are not

going to know about it,’ and that person

will go about their business.”

Schlissel
also
stressed
the

importance of keeping track of the

demographics of those impacted by the

policy.

“It’s a balancing act,” Schlissel

said. “What we’re going to have to

do prospectively is look at how the

demographics
works
out
in
this

program. If we were to get 100 reports

a year out of our 40,000 employees of

someone being convicted of a felony, we

want to make sure the peoples whose

jobs are being moved or changed or

lost aren’t disproportionately in one

identifiable group or another.”

Free Speech

Schlissel then moved on to discuss

free speech and the upcoming visit from

conservative
political
commentator

Ben Shapiro. This is not the first time

the University has dealt with issues

regarding the First Amendment, as

seen with last year’s potential visit

from Richard Spencer and a lawsuit

from Speech First.

Shapiro’s visit, which will occur on

Tuesday evening, will be hosted by

the University’s chapter of the Young

Americans for Freedom. While Shapiro

has been accused of using transphobic,

homophobic and anti-choice rhetoric,

free tickets reserved for students sold

out in less than two minutes of being

released.

Schlissel explained it was important

for the University to allow student

groups to invite the speakers they want

on campus, even if the individual may

have offensive rhetoric.

“To be a University we have to be

open to ideas, even ones that many of

us may find offensive,” Schlissel said. “I

don’t have to go listen to the talk, but

similarly we can’t set up a way to tell a

student group who they’re allowed to or

who they’re not allowed to invite. Once

you give away that right, someone will

decide they don’t want to hear about

your issue because it’s too difficult.”

He also explained the University

remains neutral with issues regarding

free speech because deciding what

qualifies
as
“offensive”
can
be

challenging.

“Who would you trust to make the

call about what’s offensive?” Schlissel

said. “No one has figured out how to do

that. So, you really have to be content-

neutral. Just because someone speaks

here at the University, in no way means

the University as an entity is endorsing

what they have to say.”

However,
more
than
issues
of

the
First
Amendment,
Schlissel

emphasized his responsibility is to

protect students’ rights to choose

whom to listen to and whom to invite

on campus.

“Some people say we’re protecting

the
First
Amendment,”
Schlissel

said. “The First Amendment, I’m not

responsible for that. I’m responsible

for you. So what I’m really protecting

is your right to decide who you’d like

to invite and come give a talk, or your

choice about who you want to listen to.

Who you shouldn’t be allowed to listen

to, I think we should be cautious about

that.”

Ethical Food Practices

Lastly, Schlissel discussed ethical

food practices on campus, which

comes after public comments from

the last Board of Regents meeting,

as well as conversation in Central

Student Government and Ann Arbor

City Council, about the presence of fast

food chain Wendy’s at the University.

The Coalition of Immokalee Workers,

student organizers and community

members were concerned about the

chain’s presence on campus because

of its refusal to join the Fair Food

Program.

While Schlissel noted that Wendy’s

decided not to pursue a request to

come back to the Michigan Union

when it reopens, he acknowledged the

importance of discussions regarding

ethical food practices on campus. He

explained how, a few years back, the

University made an effort to look at

where athletic apparel — anything

with a Block ‘M’ — came from, and

considered the possibility of a similar

process for food on campus.

“Students have proposed that we

consider a similar approach to the

sourcing of other things the University

buys, and that’s a reason issue to look

at and explore, and the same committee

(President’s Advisory Committee on

Labor Standards and Human Rights)

has been tasked at looking at this issue

… and to do an analysis,” Schlissel said.

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Stephen Berrey, associate professor

of American culture, said blackface

appearing in yearbooks is a prime

example of how this form of racism

was considered “safe” or acceptable

in
many
communities,
including

Northam’s medical school, relatively

recently.

“There’s a reason why this 1984

yearbook pops out there and then kind

of disappears for however many years

it’s been,” Berrey said. “It’s because,

at the time, it was not a big deal in that

community for these white people.

And that’s important to note — if it’s in

the yearbook, it means that it was safe

for those white people. Which means,

of course, that blackface was safe and

normal all over the country well into

the 1970s.”

Berrey
explained
a
blackface

photograph in a yearbook does not

only represent the beliefs of one or

two students, but instead reflects the

culture of an entire community.

“If we look at that yearbook, we may

think that’s Ralph Northam or maybe

somebody else,” Berrey said. “It’s those

two students, but it’s more than that.

It’s the layout person, it’s the editor,

it’s the staff, it’s the faculty, it’s the

administrator, if it’s a high school it’s

the school board, it’s the community.

There’s a complicity. The reason why

we don’t know about all of these axes

is that nobody cared about them at the

time who was in these communities.

There’s a complicity that is perfectly

okay.”

Similarly, Bethany Hughes, assistant

professor
of
American
culture

and Native American Studies, said

appropriation
of
Native
American

culture did not arise from offensive

Halloween
costumes
or
school

mascots, but actually began as early as

the Boston Tea Party in 1773. Hughes

said the Americans’ choice to dress

in what they believed was Native

American clothing reflects the deeper

history of cultural exploitation.

“It was not necessarily to disguise

their identity, maybe a little bit, but it

was a way of taking on a persona and

in some sense claiming indigeneity

to America, that we are made here,

and also claiming this sort of warrior,

aggressive action,” Hughes said. “The

history of redface doesn’t start in

popular culture entertainment — it

actually starts in civic and political

protest as far as an American identity

around redface. There is a longer

history
of
redface
in
imported

European entertainment and theater.”

Hughes noted how the popularity

of redface in contemporary American

culture disregards and undermines the

differences between Native American

communities.

“There’s this embodied knowledge of

what it means to see and recognize an

Indian, that then is imported directly

into film and television,” Hughes said.

“The markers that are identifiably

Sioux … that are Oglala, that are

Lakota, all of those get imported into

a generic Indian identity that then get

picked up and can be utilized in film

and television.”

LSA
freshman
Caroline
Reed

attended the panel and said the

discussion
made
her
think
more

deeply about a blackface incident she

experienced.

“I was at a relative’s house helping

them clean out some stuff and came

across a photo of them in blackface,

and I got nervous so I put it back in the

box and didn’t say anything about it,”

Reed said. “I didn’t acknowledge that I

even found it, I just kind of went about

my life. Obviously it’s a generational

difference, but as an 18-year-old, I felt

really angry at why they would even

do that. I was just wondering how to

address it and learn from that negative

problem.”

Reed said the panelists’ presentations

on redface and yellowface allowed

her
to
understand
that
cultural

appropriation is an issue that affects

many different communities in equally

devastating ways.

“I hear about blackface a lot, but

I never really thought about the

implications of redface and yellowface

and how that affects other races,” Reed

said. “I think that stood out to me a lot,

that it’s not limited to one stereotype

and extends to all kinds of different

people.”

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“There
will
be
plenty
of

opportunity for the public and

community to comment suggestions

and priorities and so on, but you

have to keep in mind that this is an

advisory panel only,” Forrest said.

“We make recommendations, we are

not the ones who make the decisions,

that is the sole purview of the Board

of Regents, the president and the

executive officers.”

An
audience
member
asked

how
residents
can
ensure
the

commission’s work will not be

guided by interests of corporations.

Haverkamp said the commission

needs to take in the perspective of

different stakeholders in order to

have accurate representation.

Forrest
said
because
the

commission
does
not
make

decisions, corporate interests are

not as relevant.

“There is not a lot of self-interest

here,” Forrest said. “This is a

volunteer board. Again, we do not

make the decision. So it separates

the money interest from the decision

making conference. Our job is really

to distill data and to do the best we

can to recommend the best path

forward.”

Another audience member asked

how the commission is going to

foster long-term solutions and keep

the community updated on any

progress made. Haverkamp said the

commission will produce interim

reports along the way that will be

made public, and the committee is

always open to suggestions from

residents.

Forrest said open communication

between the commission and the

community is integral to reducing

carbon emissions.

“So much of the commission’s

work
will
be
communication,”

Forrest said. “If we can’t engage the

entire University community, that

is a sign that people just don’t care.

But that’s not something I believe, I

think people care.”

Rackham student Aaron Gladstein

said he attended the event to have

an accurate understanding of how

the University is working to reduce

its carbon footprint. He was pleased

with
the
receptiveness
of
the

commission.

“I like how open the commission

currently
is,”
Gladstein
said.

“I thought I was coming into

something, like a premade game

plan, and instead this is more they

are ready to listen.”

LSA freshman Lena Swirczek is

the co-president of the University’s

chapter of Citizens’ Climate Lobby.

She
said
she
also
appreciated

how open the commission was

to audience suggestions and how

dedicated they seemed to the cause.

However, she discussed how she is

worried the Board of Regents will

not put as much effort into reducing

the University’s carbon emissions.

“I’m more confident now that

the commission is actively working

towards making recommendations

and solutions,” Swirczek said. “My

one concern is how regents are going

to handle that. My biggest takeaway

is that they’re going to do their best

to do their research and put in the

time and the effort and consult with

who they need to consult so that we

can move forward on this issue, but

I’m just concerned that the regents

will not act with the same urgency

and expertise.”

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about cutting long hair,” Dascola said.

For more than 50 years, Dascola

has continued the family tradition.

But he said it may end soon.

“There
isn’t
anybody
coming

behind me at this point in time,” he

said. “My granddaughter was talking

about becoming a hair person, but

she’s still in high school, so it’s hard

to say what’s going to happen at this

point … you can’t make your children

or grandchildren do stuff they don’t

want to do and if she decides not to do

that, that’s okay. That’s her choice.”

Though none of his children aspire

to become barbers, he said they help

out at the shop in different ways. His

youngest daughter used to clean his

shop as a child, his oldest daughter

helps out financially and his son has

built him his website. Dascola said

he’s proud of his kids because they

find different ways to help him out.

Dascola said he has had to hire

outside people to help out in the shop.

He added it isn’t easy to find qualified

people.

“Everybody has their own talents

and finding people that are good with

people and their skills with doing the

haircutting is not the easiest thing in

the world,” Dascola said. “It takes a

combination of things: You have to

have the right personality for this

type of job … and you have to shave

skills to be able to accomplish good

hair cutting because if you can’t do

the good haircutting, there’s no point

in doing a good haircutting at all.”

Dascola is proud of his shop’s

location in the heart of downtown

Ann Arbor and the University of

Michigan campus.

“At one point in time, when we

were getting close to closing the

original store, somebody tried to get

me to move off of the campus, and

I wouldn’t leave and I said, ‘I’m not

leaving downtown,’” Dascola said. “I

was born and raised downtown and

I’m going to continue my whole career

downtown. And the reason is, I love

being around the University because

I need the cultural and intellectual

experience
from
my
professor

friends who love to teach outside the

classroom. For the last 50 years, I’ve

gotten a pretty good education.”

Dascola said his business has an

impact on community and culture,

which he said differentiates his

business from others in Ann Arbor.

“I would say that when people

come to my place, it’s more of a

cultural and intellectual experience

as opposed to the sports scene and all

that business,” Dascola said. “I mean,

I’m okay with football and stuff. I’m a

really big hockey fan, but I don’t bring

sports to my business. I bring cultural

and intellectual things because I’m

pursuing knowledge and I want to

learn as many things as I can from

people because we’re always teaching

each other things.”

One
of
Dascola’s
long-time

customers and University alum Chris

Kushmaul said he’s built a strong

relationship with Dascola since 1993

when he first began going to his shop.

“He’s far more than just a barber,”

Kushmaul said. “I mean, he’s literally

become a friend. He’s like a father to

me. And it’s one barber visit at a time.

We’ve just built a relationship.”

When customers sit down to get a

haircut, they face a mirror filled with

pictures of his clients. Some pictures

showcase customers from birth to old

age.

“I call it my happy mirror,” Dascola

said. “Every day when I walk in

there, and I turn the light on the back

counter and I hang up my fanny pack,

the first thing I see is all those smiling

faces looking at me and so it’s like

welcoming me back to work.”

LSA junior Eric Donarski said he

is very excited for the shop’s 80th

anniversary and added he feels at

home whenever he gets a haircut

there.

“Not only is he excellent at

cutting hair, but Bob has a breadth

of
knowledge
to
keep
anybody

entertained and barely focused on

their haircut,” Donarski wrote in an

email interview. “Dascola Barbers has

become a place that feels like home to

me and I’m sure it will for anybody

who schedules an appointment.”

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