PAGE FOUR THE MICHIGAN DAILY WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 24, 1951 Ambassador to the Dubious More IN HIS proposed appointment of Gen. Mark Clark as ambassador to the Vatican, President Truman has merely recognized the fact that the Catholic Church is a political power. In terms of national interests however, it is questionable what the United States has to gain in maintaining an embassy in the Vatican. Of course, the Catholic Church stands as an implacable foe of Communism. And need- less to say, the Church is exercising its po- litical power in such a way as to frustrate Communism in Europe. But the Vatican's opposition to Communism does not necessar- ily justify our sending an envoy to the Pope. We certainly do not have to fear that the Church, ,if we failed to send an ambassador, would let up on its efforts against Com- munism. As long as Communism exists, the Catholic Church will be here to oppose it. Of certainty, if the appointment is con- firmed by the Senate, the question will arise in Gen. Clark's mind-"Just what am I doing here?" Obviously there would be no diplomacy in the real sense of the term involved in such a strange relation- ship, no basis for negotiations. For al- though the Vatican does have political power, it is not a state by any stretch of the imagination. As it would be, Clark would be doing noth- ing but participating in a symposium with Pope Pius and other members of the Catho- lic hierarchy on the affairs of state. To be sure, such a symposium would be unneces- sary, for the entire world already knows how the Papacy stands on certain issues. Nor would the Pope's opinions have any more merit than those of such prominent Protes- tant clergymen as Reinhold Niebuhr. As it is, there are no practical advantages of giving the Papacy a greater voice in pow- er politics. To the contrary, the President's announcenent has created a disturbance in the ranks of American Protestants who still adhere to the principles of separation of church and state, however remote the con- nection may be. It is difficult to believe the assertion that the "only ones with any logical rea- son to complain are the Communists." The fact must be faced: the appointment has stung Protestant leaders throughout the country. Clearly, if the move is going to create such bitter dissension in American circles, it is hardly warranted-unless the President, as Prof. Marshall Knappen suggests, placates the Protestants by appointing a plenipoten. tiary to the Geneva headquarters of the Protestant Ecumenical Movement. --Cal Samra Editorials published in The Michigan Daily are written by members of The Daily staff and represent the views of the writers only. NIGHT EDITOR: ZANDER HOLLANDER. New Books at the Library Ascli, Sholem-Moses. New York, Rut- nam's Sons, 1951. Caldwell, Erskine-Call It Experience. New York, Duell, Sloan and Pearce, 1951. Fowler, Gene-Schnozzola, The Story of Jimmy Durante. New York, The Viking Press, 1951. Pearson, Hesketh-Dizzy . . . Benjamin Disraeli. New York, Harper & Brothers, 1951. Steinbeck, John-The Log from the Sea of Cortez. New York, The Viking Press, 1951. Logical Move THE RECENT appointment by President Truman of Gen. Mark Clark as am- bassador to the Vatican has aroused a storm of protest from Protestant laymen and clergy that threatens to coerce either the Presi-. dent or the Senate into rescinding the move. Such a protest is rather remarkable since Truman is only coming' through with the long-delayed reappointment of an official representative to one of the oldest sovereign states in the world. Protestants, including Truman's own pastor, have come out with vague charges and threats against the appointment-that the nomination is showing religious favori- tism and is violating the American prin- ciple of the separation of the church and state. Threats range from Protestant po- litical boycott of Truman to forcing all Catholic clergy in the U.S. to register with the State Department as representatives of a foreign power. The appointment of Clark does not in- stitute recognition of the Vatican by this country. That was given to them in 1789. In 1868, the U.S. withdrew its ambassador and has since then never appointed another. Several presidents, however, have seen fit to send personal representatives. But the with- drawal of our ambassador did not mean a withdrawal of recognition. It only broke off formal relationships with the state. As of, now there are 36 countries, both Catholic and Protestant, with ambassadors in the Vatican; the U.S. and Russia are theI only major nations unrepresented. The Protestants have charged violation of American principles, but they have not shown how these principles would be vio- lated; they have charged favoritism, but they have not shown how Truman has been playing favorites when he may be jeopardizing his political career to make a much needed advance in American for- eign policy. By his move he Will not gain any Catholic votes, since in the last election he had them in his'hip pocket, 2-1. He would'also be run- ning the danger of losing the Protestat South, as the Democrats lost it in 1928 when Catholic Al Smith ran against Hoover. There are several valid reasons for making the appointment. First, and most obvious, is that it will formally ally this country with one of the staunchest anti-communistic forces in the world. In taking such a step, this country would come closer to a highly influential state and would take a logical step forward in their European policy since much of Europe is Catholic. Another clue to why an appointment was made can be had when one realizes that the nominee, Gen. Clark, has had a great deal of experience in the cold war and is well acquainted with Europe. An able man such as he in the vicinity could keep an eye on European, and especially Italian rearmament. And there is no better lookout post than the Vatican. In the last analysis, it would seem that the Protestants' objection to the appoint- ment is not a result of the violation of sa- cred principles or a deep interest and con- cern over American foreign policy, but rath- er the result of an inbred distrust for Catho- licism. It is this that may be blinding them to many of the issues involved. It is also this that is specifically a violation of an American, principle-the principle of reli- gious tolerance. It is therefore time that U.S. Protestants', and Catholics also, \set aside their prejudices that come disguised as sacred ideals, and give full support to a practical and long needed move-the sending of a U.S. ambassador to the Vatican. -Jerry Helman Vatican DORIS FLEESON:; Capitol Report WASHINGTON-The Senate's first word that President Truman proposed to make Gen. Mark Clark Ambassador to the Vatican reached the Capitol when the ses- sion opened Saturday. Leading Democratic senators were pri- vately shown legislation drafted at the White House which would permit Gen- eral Clark to retain his privileges and emoluments as a five-star general while serving as the Vatican envoy. The Presi- dent, senators were told, wanted the bill brought up under a unanimous-consent agreement and passed before adjourn- ment. Asked how the bill was received, one sena- tor said succinctly: "like it was a deck of heroin." So adverse was the general reac- tion, many did not believe it when the news ticker revealed that the appointment had been announced at the White House. Even now that it is an accomplished fact, most senators refuse to risk as much as a "no comment" on the record. The appointment was not discussed with the cabinet as such. It must have been put before Secretary of State Acheson, possibly before Defense Secretary Lovett. At least part of the cabinet learned of it from the newspapers. It is suggested that Secretary Acheson may have felt the appointment would serve to answer or to smother charges that State is soft toward Communists. This suggestion accepts the implication that Catholic Church ties are the acid test of anti-Communism-an implication that is displeasing to Protestants. Time will tell whether it is true that the President has, as some politicians assert, revived the issue of the separation of church and state in its most virulent form. This is- sue took a threatening shape two years ago in the controversy over whether federal aid to education should include some auxiliary services to parochial schools. In the in- terests of unity, moderate Protestants com- promised on this in the Senate. The com- promise proved unpalatable to the House and, after some unpleasant personalities, the education bill was quietly smothered. Political discussion generally of the new situation is surprisingly unemotional, per- haps because the earlier controversy gave warning that one day the issue would have to be fought to a finish. Practically speak- ing, it is thought that the President's ap-I pointment will stand, that senators in both parties will not dare to risk offending their Catholic constituencies. It is said to be doubtful'that a constitutional test of it can be successfully made. With respect, to the President's role, the discussion is extremely uncharitable and also pessimistic. He is charged with bad faith. One sena- tor declares Truman promised him person- ally such an appointment would never be made by him. He is charged with having decided to act now because he intends to break with the long tradition of making an Irish Catholic chairman of the Democratic national com- mittee. His own chairmen have not been successful and he is said to be turning to the South and West for a successor to his latest, William M. Bowle, Jr. One reason this seems desirable is that so many of the big- city machines from which Democratic chair- men have usually sprung are deeply mired in the tax scandals. The naming of General Clark attracts little support of itself and it is freely said that the Pentagon for a long time has been trying to rid itself of that ambitious man. Considerable speculation attaches to what Senator Connally of Texas, chairman of foreign relations, will feel obliged to do. General Clark has been charged with the useless slaughter of a Texas division at the Rapido River during the Italian campaign; Texans tried hard to block his promotion on that grounds. They are in a nice spot to put pressure on Senator Connally; he is up next year and threatened with a tough primary contest. General Clark's troops, incidentally, nev- er cared for his famous telegram to his wife about giving her Rome for her birth- day. They suggested it was a gift of their blood, sweat and tears. It is believed also that the already disaf- fected South will show displeasure over the appointment. Some Southerners view it as the final push over the anti-Truman brink. (Copyright, 1951, by The Bell Syndicate, Inc.) ribbed ex-senator from Vermont, now Am- bassador to the United Nations, stated that UN records showed Jessup to have been in New York on the date Stassen claimed he was at the White House con- ference on China. This completely refuted Stassen's charges that Jessup was a liar. However, the World-Telegram, after playing up the Stassen charge on page 1, buried Austin's refutation deep inside the paper, way back on page 28. On Oct. 15-General Eisenhower confirm- ed Jessup's statement that on Feb. 5; 1949, the date of the White House conference on China, Jessup was in New York conferring with Eisenhower on extending jhis leave of absence from Columbia University. This again made Stassen the liar, not Jessup. The World-Telegram carried this on page 5. -VANDENBERG'S DIARY-- "I Distinctly I emember. Ie GJed To Play Mah-Jo"i~-" , t . :. S _ ..-- S 'Ar ~ r L x 'A - C %t"WOY~ -~ Xetter4 TO THE EPITOR The Daily welcomes communications from its readers on matters of general interest, and will publish all letters which are signed by the writer' and in good taste. Letters exceeding 300 words in length, defamatory or libelous letters, and letters which for any reason are not in good taste will be condensed, edited or withheld from publication at the discretion of the editors. DAILY OFFICIAL BULLETIN (Continued from Page 2) University Lecture,sauspices of the Department of English. "The Dicov- ery of James Boswell." Sydney C. Rob- erts, Master of Pembrooke College and Vice-Chancellor of Cambridge Univer- sity, England. 4:15 p.m., Thurs. Oct. 25, Kellogg Auditorium. Academic Notices Seminar in Physical Chemistry. Prof. K. Fajans will discuss "The Heat Capa- city of Coordinative and Molecular Solids," Wed.. Oct. 24. 4:07 p.m., 2308 Chemistry Building. Visitors are wel- come. ,Seminar in Analytical and Inorganic Chemistry. Graham A. Stoner will speak on "Optical Interaction Absorp- tion," 7:30 p.m., Thurs., Oct. 25, 3003 Chemistry Building. Visitors are wel- come. Seminar in Applied Mathematics: Thurs., Oct. 25, 4 p.m., 247 West En- gineering. Mr. T. W. Hldebrandt will speak on "Pre-loaded Spherical Shells." Seminar in Complex Variables: Wed., Oct. 24, 2:30 p.m., 247 West Engineering. Miss Curran will speak on "Landau's Upper Bounds for Partial Sums of Tay- lor Series of Bounded Functions." Algebraic Topology Seminar: Wed., Oct. 24, 9 a.m., 3010 Angell Hall. Dr. Raoul Bott will speak on "A New Ap- proach to the Steenrod Squares." Engineering Mechanics Seminar: Wed.. Oct. 24, 3:45 p.m 101 W. Engineering Building. Prof. h. V. Churchill will speak on " J. B. J. Fourier and Fourier Series." University Extension Service an- nounces that Faster Reading will meet on Wednesday at 7:30 p.m. in 131 Bus- iness Administration Building, instead of in 4009 University High School. Those who have not ;gistered may do so be- tween 7 and 7:30 p.m. at the class room. History 11, Lecture Group H-Exam- ination Fri., Oct. 26. Hoffmans and Slosson's sections in 348 West Engineer- ing; all others in West Gallery Alumni Memorial. Seminar in Fibre Bundles: Wed., Oct. 24, 1 p.m., 1018 Angell Hall. Prof. N. Coburn will speak on "Differential Forms." Seminar in Mathematical Statistics: Thurs., Oct. 25, 3011 Angell Hall. Messrs. Car Bennett and J. B. Tysver will be the speakers. Concerts Organ Recital: Kenneth Osborne, Head of the Division of Fine Arts at the University of Arkansas, will appear as guest organist at 4:15 Wednesday afternoon, October 24, in Hill auditor- ium. An alumnus of the University of Michigan, Mr. Osborne will play com- positions by Buxtehude, Vivaldi, Bach, Milhaud, and Franck. The public is invited. Events Today Gilbert & Sullivan Society: Full cho- ris and Principals, 7 p.m., League. Episcopal Student Group:aChaplain s Open House at 702 Tappan at 7:30 p.m. Hillel Social Committee. Meeting, 7 p.m., Lane Hall. Congregational-Disciples Guild: Sup- per-Discussion Groups meet from 5:30 to 7 p.m., Guild House. Chi Epsilon: Meeting, 7:30 p.m., West Conference Room, Rackham Building. Guestspeaker: Mr. Homer Hayward. Pledges come at 8:30 p.m. Society of Automotive Engineers. Meet at 7:30 p.m. 229 W. Engineering Bldg. Guest speaker: Mr. Carl Doman. Topic of movies and discussion, "This Problem of Ford Service." All engineers welcome. English Journal Club: First meeting of the year, at 8 p.m., East Exhibition Room, Rackham Bldg. Panel dis- cussion: "What Is a Good The- sis." Participats: Dr. Warner G. Rice, Dr. Norman E. Nelson. Dr. H. V. S. Og- den, and Dr. Austin Warren. Hillel: Meeting of al perons in- terested in singing in the Hillel Choral Group, 4:15 p.m., Lane Hall. Wesleyan Guild. Do-Drop-In for food and fun, 4 to 5:15 p.m., at the Guild lounge. Come and bring a friend. Cabinet meeting, 8:30 p.m., in the Green room. All Guilders are welcome. Graduate History Club. Meeting, 8 p.m., East Conference Room, Rack- ham building. Prof. Clark Hopkins, Department of Classics, will speak on his recent research in Greece. Re- freshments. Botany Club. Meeting, 7:30 p.m.. 1139 Natural Science Bldg. Speaker: Miss Mina Winslow. Topic: North Africa- Algeria and Morocco. Business meet- ing important. All are welcome. Weekly Bridge Tournament, Union Ballroom, starting at 7:15. Beginners are encouraged to attend. Winners wili be given two weeks' free admission and runners up one week free admission. Coeds must sign out with their House Mothers for 11:30 p.m. University of Michigan -Rifle Club. Meet at the ROTC Rifle Range, 7 p.m. Marksmanship experience is not neces- sary to become a member of the Club. Michigan Arts Chorale. Meet 7 p.m., University High School auditorium. Folk and Square Dancing. 'Meet 8 p.m., Barbour Gym. Everyone welcome. Student Legislature. Meeting, 7:30 p.m., Anderson-Strauss dining room, East Quad. Any student Is invited. Members of the various international groups on campus will be special guests at this meeting. Roger williams Guild: Te~ 4:30-6 p.m.tMake reservations today to attend Varsity Night, Fri., with the Guild. Pho&e 7332. Also make reservations to attend the Messiah. Group order should be turned in.this week. Polonia Club. Meeting, 7:30 p.m. Prof. Lobanoff--Rostovsky, History De- partment, will give a lecture on 18th century Poland. Refreshments and dancing. All students of Polish des- cent and their friends are invited. Note: This meeting will be held at the Madellon Pound House, 1024 Hill Street. Coming Events international Center Weekly Tea for foreign students and American friends, 4:30-6 p.m., Thurs., Oct. 25. International Relations Club. Meet- ing, Thurs., Oct. 25, 7:15 p.m., Union Discussion on the relationship of U.N and U.S. The new faculty advisor wil be introduced. Members are urged to attend. Graduate Mixer Fri., Oct. 26, 9-12 midnight, Assembly Hall, Rackham Bldg., sponsored by the Graduate Student Council. Graduate Student Council Meeting, Thurs., Oct. 25, 7:30 p.m. West Lecture Room, Rackham Bldg Will all members pleasetattend whether notified by mail or not. Sigma Delta Chi: Important busines meeting, Thurs., Oct. 25, 8 p.m. League Group picture for the Ensian will b taken at 8:30 p.m. Report of Member ship Committee will be discussed. Al' members please attend. Kappa Phi: Pledging ceremony at 5:30 p.m., Thurs., Oct. 25 at te Metho- dist church. Supper and worshi serv ice following the pledging. Actives are requested to be present at the church at 5 p.m. Hillel: Coke Hour, Thurs., Oct. 25 3:30 to 5:30 p.m., Fireside Room, Lane Hall. Everyone is welcome. Wesleyan Guild: Meet at the Guild at 7:15 p.m., Fri., Oct. 26 to attend Var- sity Night in a group. Buy tickets In advance. Study Group.. .. To the Editors! LAST WEDNESDAY night, a the IFC house president's meet- ing a progressive step toward a solution for the discrimination is- sue was taken. This new Human Relations Committee that was es- tablished will be a committee o action. The IFC is ready to "carry the ball" and assume the respon sibility. Student Legislature ha been invited to be part of thi vital group, and by co-operation between the IFC and SL a realis tic picture and approach to th problem can be reached. There are positions open fo three fraternity men on this com mittee. One must be a man whos fraternity has in its constitutio a bias claus and one must bea man whose fraternity constitutio has no bias clause. These provis ions insure both kinds of consti tutions are represented. The thir position is open to any fraternit man on campus. There will b three members of the committe appointed by the Student Legis lature, too. Fraternity men inter ested in working on this importan committee should petition the IF Executive Council. --Mark Sandground, Secretary, IFC. * * * LS&A Curriculum ... To the Editor: FULLY AGREE with the recen letter of Mr. Markinson in re gards to the seeming ineffective ness of basic courses in the Liter ary College. I feel the LSA studen is caught between a belligerent ad ministration and an irrational col lege catalogue. For instance, Fin Arts 1 effectively bars student from taking the Fine Arts course they really want by forcing the to waste four hours of valuabl electives. The counselors are very helpful they usually hand you a catalogu opened to "pre-requisites" when ever you want to by-pass a cours Finally, the student inthek pre-requisite courses is blocked from gaining anything beneficil fron the course because of th size of the class and the lack o opportunity to meet the lecturer. In short, I believe the curricu lum in the Literary College de tracts from the value of our edu cational experience. -Glenn A. Donaldson Anti-plebian... To the Editor: I HAVE NO QUARREL with Gen Mossner's defense of Vice-Pres dent Barkley's speech; I did no hear the speech, and would neve question seriously anyone's reac tions-emotional or otherwise-t a public performance of any sor Howeveir, one must take issue wit his attitude toward intellectua (I withhold the quotation mark -the term is an accepted one). Where shall one find intellec tuals-where do they have a pror er niche-if not at a university Is not the purpose of a universit the training and sharpening of ti intellectual faculties of men an women, If the word itself is to , treated with ridicule-here, how ci those who struggle and fight f those ft'w letters which indica the beginnings, of a disciplin thought hope to'make any hea way in government or in huma relations. Certainly an educatic embraces many things - soci training, the encouragement o leadership, the forming of grou] o and friendships - yets its bas goal still centers on one idea: th in the mind of man is the key t more rational, more civilized liv If you object to the political c cultural tenets of certain person: Mr. Mossner, call them by thei right names-or at least, quali: r your terminology. Don't linsul those of us who would wear th name "intellectual" proudly-if w s deserved it. -Elizabeth F. Allen -* * * The Lord's Day,.. . To the Editor: IN REPLY to Arty Goldberger letter of Thursday, Oct. 18, have the following: What I had in mind in my firs letter, Mr. Goldberger, is at one far less arbitrary and more dis turbing than anything you distil led from it. In fact, your thinkir is such as could arise only in a: age that is born and conceived an steeped in subjectivism. And bi cause this age imagines that it is we human beings who legislate moral laws foi the universe, it is without the cultural 'cohesion arid community of interest that would enable you, for instance, to under- stand me. No, Mr. Goldberger, the moral order of this universe has been established long before you or I fcould reflect upon it. When I wit- ness to this moral order, there- - fore, I do not "presume," as you s suppose, but I invite others too to s taste the joy of conforming them- n selves to this order. Hence my plea - was less arbitrary than you think. e But what I had in mind is also more disturbing than you think. r For it is not I, nor some senile - benevolence sitting on a bank of e clouds, nor chance, nor any crea- n ture, who legislates morals for the a universe, but the Consuming Fire n himself: the God who made the - universe and who, subsequently, - revealed himself in his son Je- d sus Christ. So any moral prescrip- y tion that you or I may offer is e valid only to the extent that it co- e incides with his prescription. - It so happened that I wrote - in connection with library regula- t tions and Sabbath observance.'I C did not mean to say, however, that anyone should observe the Chris- tian Sabbath without becoming a Christian. That would be a mild but rather arbitrary demand, What I did mean is that if young Americans would shake themselves free from the New Barbarism cur- rent in this country they must get t back to the faith of their forebears - in other words, become Chris- -tians. - Surely, Mr. Goldberger, students t too are human beings created to. - praise God and to enjoy him for- - ever. e -John Vriend s5 * * * isr '5 - nHuntington Day . e To the Editor: eRE Arthur (ahRah) Hunting- ton- - We read with amusement your e. letter of the 21st. We are petition- e ing the Student Legislature to es- d tablish a "Huntington Day" ' dur- l ing which a multitudinous crowd e of 35 "students" shall pour forth )f to the Diag, where they will flit up and down having the "Gosh - best time of their lives." - And since when has Michigan - Spirit meant pushing weasely freshmen around? My, you must be tough! -Ben 'Blackett Jack Childs Peter Dow THE DIFFERENCE between the ie right word and the almost i- right word is the difference be. t tween lightning and the lightning r bug. - --Mark Twain o t. f s f 1. ON TIME I Washington MerErGo-Round airv DRew eno PEARSO WASHINGTON-Historians who evaluate the closing days of the 82nd Congress will probably make special note of the con- firmation debate over Ambassador Philip Jessup because of two things: 1. It marked the high-water mark in this country of legislation through fear. Such senators as Gillette of Iowa and Smith of New Jersey were fully aware of the unfairness of the charges against Jessup but bowed to their fear of a small, intolerant, vociferous segment of the Am- erican public sometimes called McCarthy- its 2. It also marked a period when news- paper editors were criticizing the White House on freedom of the press, while one wing of the press seriously confused the public by distorting or suppressing import- ant facts so necessary to a free press. Unquestionably the timidity of certain senators was due in part to this confused and poorly informed state of public opin- ion. Unquestionably also the great majority of newsmen in this country are anxious to protect the truth of the press as well as its freedom; for without the first the second cannot survive. 'Therefore, let's look at some of the facts in ha essn a .d .pph ,w h,,7p , (Sunday circulation 4,123,276), together with the Washington Times-Herald. The other is the New York World-Tele- gram, published by Roy Howard, high- ranking Republican and bitter critic of the State Department, who also publishes 18 other papers from Pittsburgh to San Fran- cisco and who is one of the largest stock- holders in the United Press. In contrast to the New York Times and, the Herald Tribune, which were objective, here is how the World-Telegram lived up to its obligation of a free and truthful press in reporting the debate over Ambassador Jes- sup. On October 7-Harold Stassen accused Ambassador Jessup of lying. Jessup had sworn under oath that he did not attend a White House conference at which cutting off aid to Chiang Kai-Shek was discussed. "This matter goes to the heart of the veracity of Jessup," Stassen insisted with great vigor. He stated that his memory of a conversation with the lade Senator Van- denberg was "crystal clear;", that Vanden- berg reported Jessup was present. Stassen demanded that Vandenberg's diary be produced. The World-Telegram played up this story, critical of Jessup, on page 1. Sixty-Second Year Edited and managed by students of the University of Michigan under the authority of the Board of Control of Student Publications. Editorial Staff Chuck Elliott .........Managing Editor Bob Keith ............. ..City Editor Leonard Greenbaum, Editorial Director Vern Emerson..........Feature Editor Rich Thomas ..........Associate Editor Ron Watts ............Associate Editor Bob Vaughn'.........Associate Editor Ted Papes............Sports Editor George Flint ...Associate Sports Editor Jim Parker .. Associate Sports Editor Jan James..........Women's Editor Jo Ketelhut, Associate Women's Editor Business Staff Bob Millei........Business 'Manager Gene Kuth1y, Assoc, Business Manager Charles Cuson ... Advertising Manager Sally Fish.........Finance Manager Stu Ward ........Circulation Manager Telephone 23-24-1 Member of The Associated Press The Associated Press is a sively entitled to the use for republication of all news dispatches credited to i or otherwise credited to this newspaper. All rights of republication of all other matters herein are also reserved. Entered at the Post Office at Ann Arbor. Michigan, as second-class mail matter. Subscription during regular school year: by carrier, $6.00; by mail, $7.00. BARNABY 4rn IiWellthanks anyway, Barnaby, for Wl l thm a ac foru f7Ynu, idea didn t work- Mr. O'Mallev-l 71