_ _ ...: .. - .. _ __ ..w f. OV~9 4~ THE MICHIGAN DAILY (Great Books System of Edwcation Is Imprauctical Mental Gymnastics - '- ~ - -_ Edited and managed by students of the University of Michigan under the authority of the Board in Control of Student Publications. Fublisbed every rmorninig except Monday during the University year and Summer Session. ixMembe of the Associated Press The Associated Press is exclusively entitled to the use for republication of all news dispatches credited to it or not otherwise credited in this newspaper. All rights'of republication of all other uatters herein also reserved. Entered at the Post Office at Ann Arbor, Michigan, as second class mail matter. Subscriptions during regular school year by carrier, "$4.00; by mail, $4.50. REPRESENTEO FOR NATIONAL ADVERSINQ OY National Advertising Service, Inc. _ . College Publishers Representative 420 MADISON Ave. . NEW YORK, N. Y. CHICAGO 'BO'fON *-Los ARGiiLES * SAN RAICIsCO kember, Associated Collegiate Press, 1939-40 Editorial Staff Carl Petersen Elliott Maraniss 'Stan M. Swinton *NMorton L. Linder Norman A. Schorr Dennis Flanagan, John N. Canavan Ann Vicary AMel Fineberg ... . . . . . . . . Managing Editor Editorial Director dCity Editor Associate Editor . Associate Editor . Associate Editor . Associate Editor . Women's Editor . Sports Editor * Paul R. Park Ganson P. Taggart Zenovia Skoratkd . Jane Mowers *Harriet S. Levy Business Stafff 'Business Manager Asst, Business Mgr., Credit Mahager Women's Business Manager Women's Advertising Manager Publications Manager By MORTON L. LINDER ANNAPOLIS MD. a sleepy little town full of taditional romance, has become one of the seats of educational discipline in the United States. At one end of this community that dates way back to the Pilgrims, is a govern- ment school for sailors, where strict physical discipline, with all kinds of codes, is taught. At the other end, surrounded by gnarled trees, are the ivyed Colonial-buildings that house a col- lge where embryonic classicists are made to toe: the mental mark. The first, of course, is the United -States Naval Academy; the second is St. John's College, a non-sectarian iinstitu- tion under the supervision of two of Robert M. Hutchins' Chicago disciples. In 1937, Stringfellow Barr and Scott Buchan- an, Rhodes scholars who had worked together at the University of Virginia and then with Hutchins at Chicago, took over this tiny school of 124 students and began a general renovation, throwing out the elective system and installing their "great books" program of learning. They abandoned: all inter-collegiate athletics, tossed out all of the modern educational frills and set about to teach men to think. And they thought the only way to do this was to plan a rigid four-year course 'dealing only with the "great minds" of the past. This was to be no place where a man learned how to get a job; St. John's was to be a haven for scholars, where a man could spend four years in contemplation, not bothering himself with such unimportant details as political and social reforms or eco- nomics or contemporary literature, ' A PROGRAM was set up that goes some- thing like this: four years of mathematics at five hours a week. Five hours a week for four years of Greek, Latin, French, and German re- spectively, Three hours a week of laboratory work: mathematical, physical, chemical, and bio- chemical. One hundred and twenty-eight class- ics must be read in the four years, with the student prepared to attack or defend each one. These include, among others, the following: First year: Homer, Herodotus, Aeschylus, Sophocles, Euripedes, Aristophanes, Plutarch, Lucian, Plato, Aristotle, and Archimedes. Second year: Tacitus, Virgil, Justinian, Dante, Chaucer, Cervantes, Cicero, Ptotinus, Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, Appollonius, Ptolemy, Leonardo da Vinci, and Descartes. Third year: Shakespeare, Milton, Rabelais, Racine, Moliere, Erasmus, Montaigne, Machiavelli, Pascal, Fielding, Gib- bon, Voltaire, Swift, Calvin, Spinoza, Bacon, Hobbes, Locke, Hume, Kant, Newton, Leibnitz, Lavoisier, and Dalton. Fourth year: Goethe Rousseau, Adam Smith, Malthus, Marx, Zola, Balzac, Flaubert, Thackeray, Dickens, Ibsen, Dostoevski, Tolstoi, Schopenhauer, Hegel, Bent- ham, Mill, Freud, Russell, Darwin, and Faraday. N DESCRIBING the kind of graduate they are trying to mould, Barr said: "For four years he will have cont6rted with great minds . . .'He will not be a specialist in anything bu he will know how to apply his mind to whatever he wishes to master . . . He is likely not to make a million, but will probably earn a good livelihood because ' he knows how to use his head and was learning to work in the years which most college boys spending in learning to loaf and dodge." This is what you might call going after cul- ture in a big way, and, while there are soa points to be made in its favor, it must be noted that such an educational program is completely out of place in a dynamic world such as ours. The graduate of the "great books" program comes out of his four cloistered years and is no more ready and fit to take his place in con- temporary living than if he had never attended college at all. True, he has learned to think, NIGHT EDITOR: WILLIAM ELMER The editorials published in The Michigan Daily are written by members of The Daily staff and represent the views of the writers only Lindy Hits 7 eiling Zero . . N AN ARTICLE recently written by Col. Charles A. Lindbergh, the famous flying hero joins that select group of 'Americans like Dorothy Thompson and Walter ' Lippmann who bemoan the disregard of peoples of "Western Civilization" for menaces from out- side. According to the article, among the nations of the world today there "is no way to reappor- tion the world's wealth as tides of human char- acter ebb and flow--except by strength of ,armies." In other words, peace on earth today is impossible without the threat of armed force 'to back it up. It is a restatement of the bestial law that "might makes right." The Colonel fails to see any means to settle disputes and econom- ic inequalities other than war. Arbitration or some other peaceful method is impossible, he thinks. Not many years ago, and until very recently, a booming voice bellowed forth the same doctrines across the mountains and plains of Italy. Not merely content to mimic Mussolini, Lind- bergh broaches the superiority of the White race in the typical style of Der Fuehrer. "It is time to turn from our quarrels and build our White ramparts again. (Again?) This alliance with foreign races means nothing but death to us. It is our turn to guard our heritage from Mongol and Persian and Moor, before we become en- gulfed in a foreign sea." Here is the feeling that there is no hope of achieving anything for the good of the white race by an alliance with the Chinese people; that possibly the people of India with Gandhi in the lead must be thrown into the Ganges River; that Arabians. EgyptiaS and others will be cowed into submission because it must be hopeless to expect anything good from them. The airinan outdoes any previous attempts at anything of similar nature in his proposal for a defense of the race. "Our civilization depends on a united strength among ourselves; on a strength too great for foreign armies to chal- lenge; on a Western Wall of race and arms which can hold back a Genghis Khan or the in- filtration of inferior blood; on an English fleet, a German air force, a French army, an American nation standing together as guardians of our common heritage, sharing strength, dividing in- fluence." Echoes of Hitler's rabid anti-semi- tism and pro-Aryanism are recalled by th Colonel. His formidable array of international power would make any resistance to domina- tion of the planet by the White race kowtow and submit. It is the doctrine of Naziism on an in- ternational scale. Summing up what the Colonel said: "our civi- lization depends upon peace among Western nations and therefore on united strength, for Peace is a virgin who dares not show her face without Strength, her father, for protection. We can have peace and security only so long as we band together to preserve that most price- less possession, our inheritance of European blood, only so long as we guard ourselves against attack by foreign armies and dilution by foreign races." There are those who will still say that the Colonel is well-meaning with only the good of America in mind, that any attack upon his views is unkind and unfair because he is an American hero. But Lindbergh is no longer the quiet hero we commonly associate with him; his speeches and writings °are neither innocent he has developed taste for fine literature and is well-versed in all acadermic fields. But the point is that he has received no training in applying what he has learned to modern living. He is not fittedtoassume 1his place near the top of our society, to lead the people, to help them, to educate them in the best ways of life. He is nothing more than a pedagogue, an imprac- tical academcian. 4 S WE have noted above, the idea is fine. But the emphasis should be taken of this "cul- ture" idea. There is no really need for mathe- matics; Latin or Greek per se and many of the so-called classics could be done away with. Then, too, there should be somenchoice in the matter of courses, to allow for variety of inter- ests. And, to the list of "great books," we would add: Henry Adams' Education of Henry Adams; Charles Beard: Rise of American, Civilization and An Economic Interpretation of the History of the United States; Henri Bergson: Creative Evolution; Franz Boas: The Mind of Primitive Man; Van Wyck Brooks: Three Essays on Amer- ica; Herbert Croly: The Promise of American Life; John Dewey: Experience and Nature; Reconstruction in Philosophy; Havelock Ellis: Studies in the Psychology of Sex. Adolf Hitler: Mein Kampf; William James: Pragmatism; P. A. Kropotkin: The Conquest of Bread; Joseph Wood Krutch: The Modern Tem- per; Harold Laski: Authority in the Modern State; V. I. Lenin: State and Revolution; Robert S. Lynd: Middletown; Vernon Parrington: Main Currents in American Thought; George Santay- ana: A Life of Reason; George Bernard Shaw:' Prefaces; Upton Sinclair: The Brass Check; Lin- coln Steffens: Autobiography of Lincoln Stef- fens; John Strachey: The Coming Struggle for Power; William Suner: Folkways; Thorstein Veblen: The Theory of Business Enterprise; The Theory of the Leisure Class; H. G. Wells: New Worlds For Old; and Graham Wallas: The Great Society. Of ALL Things! . . . . .. ByMorty-Q ... . THE boys and girls at the University are hav- ing lots of fun. The boys are hollering be- cause they can't get into the JGP. The girls are squawking because the nasty old boys don't want to let them take part in the newly revived Mimes Opera. A short time ago, Mr. Q. offered a sug- gestion that he thinks would work out wonder- fully well. Let the boys take the part of girls in the JGP and the girls take the part of men in the opera and no one would be the wiser. At any rate, the controversy that isn't exactly raging, but which is stirring up a little excite- ment among those who can think of nothing else to get excited about has prompted one of the very few contributions this space has re- ceived. Once again, Mr. Q. should like to re- mind his readers-sometimes (called Mom and Pop-that he is always eager to receive any notes that may be worth noting.' A FEW days ago, Shirley Wallace wrote an editorial saying that women should be allowed to participate in the opera. Mr. Q. doesn't know the exact details but he is inclied to agree because, even if you say no and abso- lutely forbid them to come around they'll find some way of horning in anyhow. Fatalism, if you like, but, oh, how true. So here is a letter received this morning, advising Miss Wallace that a woman's place is in a fog, and would she please take her dollies and go home. OPEN LETTER TO MISS SHIRLEY WALLACE AND THOSE WOMEN WHO THINK THEY SHOULD TAKE PART IN THE UNION OPERA: Will you please try once more to explain to me your reason why women should be allowed to participate in the Union Opera? About all I've gotten out of your pleas thus far is the rather hysterical note: Gosh, girls, here's a chance for us to get some publicity and these men are going right ahead with their plans as if we didn't exist. Of course there's Miss Wallace's point that the only reason women want a part in the Opera is to give the feminine portion of the campus some incentive for interest in the production. They are really sincere, she says, in wanting the Opera revived, and they deplore the men's ob- liviousness to a factor that may spell the differ- ence between success and failure. All of which is spreading it pretty thickly, Miss Wallace. In the first place, women won't come to the Opera to see women. And too, we have yet to observe anything come out of the Junior Girls' Play-which we take as a criterion of the caliber of help we might expect from the ladies-that could be advantageous even to the Children's Theatre. Frankly, Miss Wallace, we are skeptical that the biggest boost women could give the Opera would lift it a hair's breadth closer to success. We realize the desperate situation of you and your cohorts who would like to see yourselves before the footlights. Play Production draws its actresses entirely from the drama classes, and JGP is a sort of phantasmagoria that doesn't allow a girl to show much more than her legs. But, sympathetic as we may be individually, we cannot collectively permit any sacrifice to weak- en our show. The men did give women a share in the 1918 production-and it was one of the least successful in the Opera's history, though other factors than the negative influence of women might have been responsible Whether you think so or not, Miss Wallace, those men who are in charge of the Opera's re- vival will make any move, accept any suggestion, that they believe will help this year's Opera toward success. Your proposal has been con- The Editor Gets -Told .. Still Mystified To the Editor: I have read with much interest this morning Professor Slosson's let- ter and Gulliver's reply thereto, and I must confess that I am still mysti- fied as to just what the position of The Daily Editorial Staff is as to the point of view that an American citi- zen should take in desiring a prac- ticable solution for the present ills of the world. As The Daily editorials this year have been along substantially the lines of Mr. Gulliver's writings, I assume that the editors are in sub- stantial agreement as to what they desire. I feel that the campus would appreciate very much knowing just what the position of the editors is. Might we have a direct answer to the followingconcrete questions?. 1. Of the three alternative posi- tions pointed out by Mr. Slosson, American Nationalism, Russian In- ternationalism, Tolstoian Pacifism, which position do the editors take? 2. If the editors do not accept any one of these alternatives but do have a logical position which Mr. Slosson overlooked, what is it? 3. In the same issue of The Daily in which appeared the Sloson letter and the Gulliver reply, was a reportI of the investigation by The Daily staff as to student opinion on the question of, "Who should have the victory at the end of the War?" it appears that 68 per cent of the stu- dent body desire an allied victory, 2 per cent desire a German victory,t and 20 per cent desire that there be no victory. I am assuming from my reading of this year's editorials that the members of The Daily staff are among the 20 per cent group. Clear- ly, a vote for no victory for anyonee means a continuance of the-presents status quo with Poland dismembered between Germany and Russia, and Czechoslovakia and Austria still in German hands. This third question is: Do the editors believe that such an ending of the war would be pre-t ferable to an allied victory?t May I make the further requestc that in their replies to the aboveF questions, the editors be positive and not negative, ahd that they take ap firm and certain position rather than4 discuss abstract theories.- Sincerely,c -John E. Tracyt (Editor's Note: The editors wish tov point out in partial reply to Professor Tracy's letter that, under point num- ber one as listed above, they refuse, to accept either of the three posi- tions on the war suggested by Profes- sor Slosson. A "logical position" onc the war, and discussion of questionn number three above will be includeda in aneditorial appearing in Sunday's Daily) 6t; Drew Pedrson and Rober S.Allent WASHINGTON - If Senators Wheeler and Vandenberg really in- vestigate the faulty construction of the Navy's brand new warships, theyp will find a lot of interesting thingsr which the public and Congiess nevert has heard about.+ They will find, for instance, a sortt of social registry within the Bureaus of "Engineering" and of "Construc- tion and Repair" whereby 110 com- missioned officers rule the roost. Un-g der them, and distinctly subordinateF regarding both authority and socialC position, are the civilian naval archi-d tects and engineers. Chief differ- ence is that one group went to An- napolis and the other did not. Naval Architects Best 3 The civilian naval architects ares among the best in the country, some of their names are well-known thoughout the ship-building indus- try. And in previous years some ofa these civilians used to be in charge1 of technical sections. Recently, however, more and more AnnapolisV graduates have come ashore toT supersede them. No one in the Navy is shouting about it, but the flaws just discovered in the new destroyers were suspect- ed by these civilian architects and engineers. The private shipbuilderst also questioned the destroyers' de- signs, fearing they would be top-r heavy. However, the 110, commis-' sioned officers are not accustomed to having their word challenged, and their instructions were carried out.I RESULT: About 20 of the 28 new destroyers Will have to have their. keels leaded to keep them from roll- ing over in the water.. What Price Ships? Another point which the Senate j . DAILY OFFICIAL BULLETIN WEDNESDAY, NOV. 29, 1939 VOL. L. No. 56 Notices Sophomores, College of Literature, Science, and the Arts: Elections for the second semester are now being approved by the Academic Coun- selors. You will be notified by post- card to see your Counsellor, and it will be to your decided advantage to reply to this summons promptly. By so doing, you will be able to discuss your program carefully with your Counselor and avoid the rush and confusion at the end of the semester. Remember that there will be no op- portunity for you to see your Coun- selor during the final examination' period. Seniors: College of L.S. and A., School of Education, School of For- estry and Conservation, and School of Music: Tentative lists of seniors have been posted on the bulletin board in Room 4, U. Hall. If your name does not ap- pear, or, if included there, it is not correctly spelled, please notify the counter clerk. University Girls' Clee Club: No re- hearsal tonight. Regular rehearsal Thursday, Nov. 30, at 8 p.m. in Game Room of "League. Attendance con- pulsory, concerts Twilight Organ Recital: Catharine Crozier, Guest organist, a member of the faculty of the Eastman School of Music, Rochester, New York, will give a recital on the Frieze Memorial Organ in Hill Auditorium, this af- ternoon at 4:15 p.m. The general public, with the exception of small children, is invited without admis- sion charge. Lecture University Lecture: Dr. E. M. K. Geiling, Professor and Chairman ofI the Department of Pharmacology of3 the University of Chicago, will lecture on "The Comparative Anatomy and Pharmacology of t h e Pituitary Gland," under the auspices of the De- partment of Biological Chemistry, at 4:15 p.m. on Thursday, Nov. 30, in the Rackham Lecture Hall. All Medi- cal School classes will be dismissedt to permit the students to attend this lecture, The public is cordially in- vited. Biological Chemistry Lecture: Dr. E.M.K. Geiliing, Professor of Phar- macology at the University of Chi- cago, will speak to the first yeart medical students on "Insulin" at 8 a.m. on Thursday, Nov. 30, in Room 1528 East Medical Building. Allt those who are interested are cordiallyI invited to be present.t Dr. Mary Shattuck Fisher will givet the fifth lecture in the Marriage Relations Series tonight at 7:30, in the Rackham Lecture Hall. Miss Helen Hall will lecture'and show slides today at 4:15 p.m. in Room D, Alumni Memorial Hall on the Masterpieces of Art Exhibition,I now on view at the Detroit Institute of Arts. Especially for students in Fine Arts; all others interested are welcome.t Today's Events Chemistry Colloquium today at 4:15 p.m. in Room 303 Chemistry Bldg Program: Mr. J. L. Sheldon: "A} Study of Ferric Hydroxide Precipitat- ed by Urea and its Use in Quantita-, tive Separations." Chemical and Metallurgical En- gineering Seminar: today at 4 p.m. in Room 3201 East Engineering Bldg. Program: Mr. M. Standing: "ElectricY Oil Well Logging." Graduate stu-i dents in Chemicaland Metallurgical. Engineering are invited. Algebra Seminar today at 4 p.m. in' 3201 Angell Hall. Program: Profes- sor Rainich and Mr, Savage: "Ab- stract ideal Theory." A.S.M.E. meeting tonight at 7:30 at the Union. Program: Dr. Ernest J. Abbott of Physicist Research Co.: "Superfinish," to be demonstrated with his profilometer, an instrument used in the determination of surface roughness. Institute of the Aeronautical Sci- this does not account for all of the? tremendous boost in price.; The price of a battleship also has mounted, so that one battleship now costs as much as the entire Rocke- feller Radio City in New Ywork. NOTE: Acting Naval Secretary Edison is doing his best to bring greater efficiency to the Navy, and has appointed two good men, Admir- als A. H. Van Keuren and S. M. Rob- inson in charge of Construction and Repair and the Bureau of Engineer- ing. Aside from three men at the top, however, there has been prac- ences meeting tonight at 7:30 in Room 1042 East Engineering Bldg. Program: "Aviation Fuels' by Prof. Edward T. Vincent. Arrangements will be made for the trip to Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio, on'Dec. 8.' Alpha Nu meeting tonight at 7:30 Alpha Nu Loom, Angell Hall. Sigma Eta Chi meeting tonight from 5 to 7,:30 p.m. Economics Club: meets tonight at 7:45 in the Rackham Amphitheatre. Program: "Experiences with "Mini- mum Wage Committees" by Pofes- sors Z. C. Dickinson and E. M. Hoov- er. Graduate students and 'staff members in Economics and Business Administration are cordiaIly invited. International Center: Musical pro- gram tonight from 7 to 9:30 p.m. which includes Overture to Der Freischutz by Weber, Minuet from Don Giovanni by Mozart, Campanella by Paganidi-Liszt, and the Symphony in D Minor by Cesar Franck.' Eery- one cordially invited. .G.P. Central Committee meeting today at 4:30 p.m. at the League. American Student Union meeting today at 4 p.m. in the Michigan Union. Program devoted to "Civil Liberties; Our First Line of Defense Against War," film: "Anierica's Dis- inherited," and speaker, A, J. Tarini. La Socieda Hispanica picnic this afternoon at Newkirk farm. Meet in front of the Union at 5 p.m. for transportation. Make reservations with Mr. Mercado or Daisy Bihary. Women Students: General meeting today at 4:15 p.m. at Women'sAth- letic Building for those iltereted in working on Hobby House. Michigan Union Opera: Schedule of tryouts for dancing, singing, and acting to be conducted in the desig- nated rooms of the Union: Wednesday, 7-9 p.m., Room 305. Thursday, 7-9 p.m., Room 304. All eligible men interested may try- out. Sophomore Cabaret tap dancing group will meet today at 4 p.m. at the League. Hostess Committee of Sohmonore Cabaret meeting today at 4 O.m. at the League. All names and definite times must be handed in then. Women's Swimming Club meeting today at 4 p.m. at the Union Pool. A.A.U.W. Travel Group: meeting this evening at 8 p.m at thIe Ieague. Program: Lecture and moving pic- tures of Hawaii by Mrs. Jessie Ellis of the School of Business Adminis- tration. Hillel Camera Club-meets tonight at 7:30 at the Hillel Foundation. Hillel Foundation: Alfred J. kahn, national"secretary of Avukabh, will speak tonight at 7:30 at the 'Hillel Foundation. All members and other students cordially invited. Hillel Class in Jewish History will meet tonight at 7:15 at the 'Hillel Foundation. . Coingc Events Sigma Xi: meeting in the 'Amphi- theatre of the Rackham Building on Thursday, Nov. 30, at 8 p.m. Mr. William C. Hollands of the Univer- sity Bookbindery will speak on "Book- binding, Past and Present." Refrsh- ments. Varsity Glee Club: Vey important rehearsal for all members Thursday evening, Nov. 30, 7:30, "Trial By Jury." Cercle Francais meeting on Thurs- day, Nov. 30 at 8 p.m. in 408 R.L. A one-act comedy will 'be presented. Upper Peninsula Men: Reservations for the annual Hiwatha Club ban- quet, to be held Thursday night, may still be had by phoning Bill Jackson, Club Sec'y. The banquet is 'at 6:30 p.m. at the Union. Program: Talk by Professor John Muyskens of the Speech Dept. Recital of Poetry: Miscellaneous short poems will be given by students from the classes in Oral Interpreta- tion, Speech 43, on Thursdayr, Nov. 30 at 3 p.m. in Room 205 Mason Hall. The public is cordially invited. Iee Skating Class for University wqmen will meet at, 4 p.m. on Priday at the Coliseum. Ballet Dancing Group for Sopho- more Cabaret will meet at 4:30 p.m. Thursday in the League. Booths and Exhibits Committe for Sophomore Cabaret will meet at 4 p.m. Thursday, in the League. Quotable Quotes "Never allow yourself to become a 'case' if you can help it; and never froth at the mouth about things. That's the trouble with too many people. They froth at the mouth because they're reading the same newspaper too much. They get all scared about what they think Germany's going to do. They get all worried about 'reds' in the country. They get frothed up about what's go- ing to become of democracy. And all the time they forget that there are limitations to all things; that there always is a balance to every- thing." Harvard University's famed poet, Robert Frost. says that's the reason his life has been "all holidays," whether he's working or playing. "I firmly believe that an integrated study of the social sciences and the humanities will leave our engineering students less susceptible to the prevailing shibboleths, cliches and slogans re- garding race, creeds and political programs. Stereotyped thinking is swifter and less pain- ful, but it is far more dangerous in these days When adaptability is necessary for survival." Dr. E. S. Burdell, director of Cooper Union, asks for less "engin" in engineering. --Associated Collegiate Press The Ohio Wesleyan Transcript raises the age- old question: "Should I 'plant one one her' and get slapped or leave her unkissed and broken-hearted?" "That, according to bull session talk, is the great question in the minds of men concerning when or if the,girl should be kissed after a date. "It depends upon the man," chorused 20 women on the Ohio Wesleyan campus. The women were asked, and they told the men. We can't be too critical of the women, because as a friend of ours suggests, look what she has to put up with. -Ohio State Lantern They don't want peace which must be backed A A