SIX TIE MICHIGAN DAILY State High School Debate Finals o Be Held Here onight bg .: Flint Northern, Grand Rapids Central Meet Michigan Band Will Play At 23rd Annual Contest Of Forensic Associations .5,000 Are Expected Flint Northern and Grand Rapids Central high schools, survivors of a three-month elimination contest will participate in the finals of the 23rd annual state championship debate of the Michigan High School Foren- sic Association at 7:30 p.m. today in Hill Auditorium. Following a concert by the Univer- pity of Michigan band, Flint North- ern's affirmative team will meet Grand Rapids Central's negative on the question, "Resolved, That the Federal Government Should Own and Operate the Railroads." From 4,000 to 5,000 persons are expected to hear the finals, including more than 1,000 students from all parts of the state. Band To Play The band concert which will pre- cede the debate will include several new numbers. After the band march- es down the aisles of the Auditorium proudly playing "The Victors", the concert will follow with Wagner's "Siegfried's Rhine Journey"; a cor- net trio's rendition of Smith's "Bo- lero" played by Albin Johnson, '41 SM, Richard Baker, Grad.SM, and Leslie Grimord, '41SM, "Pavanne" from the Second American Symphon- ette by Morton Gould, Von Weber's "Tropical" and "Concertino", gnd "Huckleberry Finn" from the Mississ- Ippi Suite by Grofe, arranged by Don Chown. The two debating teams tonight have won their way to the finals from more than 230 squads who started in the qualifying contests last fall. This is the first Grand Rapids team to reach the finals in the 23 years of' debating and the fourth time a team from Flint Northern has debated in Ann Arbor. The Flint Team The Flint affirmative team will consist of Bernard Didier, Lorraine Miller and William Tate who were coached by Frederic C. Harrington. The Grand Rapids squad of Robert Dangl, David Ewing and Gordon Boo- zer was coached by Florence T. Efty. Miss Efty was formerly a debater on the Grand Rapids Central team and was on a team that was defeated by a Manistique squad ;n the quarter- finals of the 1933 contest. Both Miss Efty and Mr. Harrington are taking graduate work in the summer session of the University. Judges of tonight's contest will be Dr. Alan H. Monroe, head of the speech department of Purdue Univer- sity and president of the National Association of Teachers of Speech, Prof. G. E. Densmore, chairman of the speech department, and Prof. Carl G. Brandt, chairman of the English department of the engineering col- lege and lecturer in the speech de- partment. Tod Rockwell, sports edi- tor of the Detroit Free Press, will in- troduce the speakers. Speech To Be Eight Minutes Constructive speeches in tonight's debate will be eight minutes in length, and rebuttal speeches will be limited to four minutes. Timekeepers will be Westley Rowland, debate coach of Comstock High School and Emil R. Pfister, principal and debate di- rector of Kingston High School. The' debate is open to everyone without admission charge. Teams of Kingston and Comstock High Schools were defeated by to- night's contestants in the semi-finals. Members of the Kingston team were Ethel MacDonald, Edith Malott and Olga Dorics. On the Comstock team were Willah Skinner, Robert Waber and Helen Taylor. The debate series is conducted an- nually by the Michigan High School Forensic Association, a division of the University Extension Service. Arthur Secord of the Service, and varsity debate coach, is manager of the For- ensic Association. Awards are given annually by the Detroit Free Press. Speech 32 Sectioins Will Contest Today One of the major speech events oft the day will be the extempore speak- ing contest between seven members of Speech 32 sections to be held at 4 p.m. today in Natural Science Audi- torium. Contestants will be Wolfred Block, '42, who will talk on "Invisible Stripes"; Edgar Clinton, '41, whose address is "The Great Change"; Wil- liam Comstock, '42, will speak on "Student Responsibility"; Jean Hub- Speakers To Argue In ill Auditorium BERNARD DIDIER ROBERT DANGL LORRAINE MILLER DAVID EWING F.. f V- WILLIAM TATE GORDON BOOZER The above high school debaters will take par't in the finals of the slate championship contest at 7:30 p.m. today in Hill Auditorium on the railroads ownership question. Diddier, Miss Miller and Tate are on the Flint Northern affirmative and Dangi, Ewing and Boozer are on the Grand Rapids Central squad. \ Stories Of Good Old Del Retold By Prof. Emeritu By ELIZABETH M. SHAW The good old days of debating-- the days when Michigan sent her de- bate teams to England, were retold yesterday by Prof.-Emeritus Thomas C. "Chief" Trueblood, grand old daddy of the speech department. S The first inter-collegiate debate in he United States took place in 1892 between Harvard and Yale in the East. The very next year, the first western debate was held at Michigan between Michigan and the University of Wisconsin. These debates were judged on the percentage basis, Pro- fessor Trueblood recalled, the distri- bution ranging on composition, meth- od of delivery, and rebuttal. Ishpeming, Manistique, Maranesco,' The next two years Michigan met teams from Northwestern University and in '96, the University of Chicago.! The first association for contests in the Mid-West was the Central De- bating League, organized in 1897 be- tween Michigan, Chicago, Northwes- tern and Minnesota, but after four or five years, Minnesota was dropped because it was so far away and a tri- angular league carried on a yearly schedule. Michigan still carried on inde- pendent debates with Wisconsin, how- ever, and soon another league was formed with Wisconsin and Illinois. Women came into the picture then, as they invariably must, and about the same time that women's suffrage broke through the national scene, they insisted on trying for the men's debate team. Starting with 1920, one woman was permitted on each team of three and five or six such debates were held. "No debate was ever lost that had a woman team member," Professor Trueblood mused. No Appeasement Yet But appeasement for women was not possible while they were limited to one member on the varsity. Con- sequently, in 1922 Michigan, Ohio and Indiana formed the first League for women debaters. During Professor Trueblood's ad- ministration, from 1893 to 1926, a total of 103 debates were held, 64 of Leads Varsity Today atig Days E sk y Captures Ds Trueblood Northern Title Defeats Wakefield Team Michigan defeated Oxford University For U.P. Trophy jwhen its team came to this country and a few years later Cambridge Escanaba Senior High School de- University brought a team here which etdaemfrmWkildnth proved superior to local material. fnl fteUprPnnuame In 1926 the Michigan lads made a tonatake the Upper Peninsula chain return trip and again suffered defeat to take the Upper Pennsula cham- at the hands of the Cambridge team pionship this year. while winning four other debates from Due to difficulties caused by trans- Manchester, Leeds, Exeter and Bris- vortation facilities between the pen- tol. Prof. Richard D. T. Hollister of insulas and the expense involved in the speech department accompanied travelling the necessary distances, t he squad. schools from God's country did not Trueblood Recollects compete with down-state schools this "The boys who made tnis trip," said year. Professor Trueblood, as he fingered Each of the finalist schools will re- over his numerous scrolls of type- ceive a trophy similar to those pre- written material, apparently carrying sented to the semi-finalists in the Michigan's debate history, were Eph- down-state contest. The trophy is a riam R. Gomberg, '27, William W. walnut base surmounted by the Lamp King, '27, and Gerald E. White, '27. of Knowledge. Professor Trueblood received his Nine schools in the elimination con- first chance to teach a speech course test will each receive one of the wall from President Angell, and in 1888 he plaques donated by the Detroit Free offered the first. speech course for Press. credit in any university. But speech was under the English department Debate TIS Fo'mii.#h until 1892 when he founded the C ~I~L~ Speech department which is the old- For Flint Northern st in a state university in the coun- try and at the same time became the first full professor of speech in any For the fourth time in the last university. eight years, Flint Northern partici- The department here grew and pates in the finals of the Michigan added instructors to teach the be- State Championship Debate. ginning courses while Professor True- No other school has sent a team blood taught the advanced courses in rto Ann Arbor more than twice, al- Great Orators, Debating, and Oral though Flint Northern only: took Interpretative Reading. When Pro- the title once (in 1933) in her three fessor Trueblood returned in 1926 tries. Flint Central defeated Battle there were nine full time teachers, six Creek Senior High last year in lhr part time teachers, and 1,000 students second final contest. It was also in the department. Battle Creek's second meet. Pens - Typewriters - Supplies "Writers Trade With Rider's" RIDER'S 302 South State St. Coach Arthur Se-ord of the speech department not only coaches the Michigan varsity de- bate squad but is director of the Michigan Forensic Association. igan proved herself superior prior to 1926. Against Northwestern, Michi- gan won 14 contests and lost 12, she 1 scored 16 against Chicago's eight, three against Minnesota's one, three against Pennsylvania's one, nine against Illinois' one, and 11 against Wisconsin's four. Ohio won five to Michigan's three and Indiana took the only contest with that schoolsup to that time. Competition with English schools at this time was particularly inter- esting Professor Trueblood reminisced 4 -E 3 mm mm mammmmme t R which ended in victory for Michigan and 35 of which were lost. No deci- sion was rendered in four. To all Mid-West schools with the exception of Ohio and Indiana, Mich- Trophies Given To Participants In All Contests Trophies presented to the finalists, whether winner or loser, are alike. To each of the two schools partici- pating in the State Championship Debate, the University presents a large trophy mounted on a black wal- nut base. Replacing the trophy cups presented in the past, the new tro- phies .stand 19 inches in height and are surmounted by the Lamp of Knowledge with Achievement on eith- er side of the pedestal. Due to the Upper Peninsula's with- drawal from competition with Lower Peninsula schools this year, the Uni- versity is presenting the winner in that section with a trophy similar to that which is being offered to partici- pants in the semi-finals. These tro- phies are 13 inches in height and are surmounted by the Lamp of Learn- ing on a black walnut base. Each of the 90 schools whose teams participated in the elimination series{ of debates received a Univer- sity of Michigan Wall Plaque Tro- phy through the courtesy of the De- troit Free Press. The design of the plaque is taken from the University of Michigan shield. We in IHBOUBCII1G the lp- ~NIN " 1 IN iost Beautiful iusic Shop in MICHIGan SauPdaj, JJrri/27 A large selection of works of the masters reproduced on VICTOR Red Seal Records- our ALBUM COLLECTION covers the entire range of permanent music. take pleasure Michigan Teachers Of Speech Will Hear Monroe At Session Teachers of speech in Michigan Field in California" on the second high schools and colleges will meet at floor terrace. Clarence R. Van Dusen 9:30 a.m. today in the Union to start of Michigan State College is the a full day of activities on the con- chairman of that section. ference of the Michigan Association A symposium on "Enriched Speech of Teachers of Speech. Opportunities in the High School" Dr. Alan H. Monroe of Purdue Uni- will feature the high school division versity and president of the National discussion which will take place in the Association of Teachers of Speech, Small Ballroom. Raymond Ford of will address the group at the lunch- Detroit will take charge. eonmechetg o tBeSpecialc Should Members of the association will be Four discussion meetings will.be guests of Zeta Phi Eta at 3 p.m. at held during the morning session the League for an interpretation helddurng te mrmngsesionhour. At 4 p.m. they will audit an which begins at 9:30 a.m. Dr. Mon-exmrAe4 p eykig auntsan roe will talk to the college section on extemporaneous speaking contest in "Some Practical Problems in the Natural Science Auditorium, and at TehingofCoilleg eSch." throf.6 p.m. they will dine with the School- Teaching of College Speech." Prof. master's Club at the Union where ient"b cha ance oftAlson Colg Prof. Floyd A. Firestone of the physics whihwi be hrman omthe2secondepartment will demonstrate what which will be held in Room 220 of the physicist can do with or without the Union. tehmnviei i ak , "Problems in Teaching Elementary the human voice in his talk Speech" is the title of a panel discus- sion for the elementary and inter- mediate group in Room 224. Richard CLEAR, PU RE Wright of Detroit will be chairman. Eugene Hahn of Wayne Universi- ty will address the speech correction section on "The Speech Correction w r w VaInc " s r 1 ri 1 !. , ,% t 1 1 1 t) a i FJ 4 To each of the six debaters partici- pating in tonight's debate, the Free Press presents a gold watch engraved with the name of the debater and in recognition of his or her individual merit in debating. 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