TIHE MICHIGAN DAILY SUNDAY, NOV. 15, Published every morning except Monday during the University year and Summer Session by the Board in Control of Student Publications. Member of the Associated Press The Associated Press is exclusively entitled to the use for republication of all news dispatches credited to it or notr otherwise credited in this newspaper. All rights of republication of all other matter herein also reserved. Entered at the Post Office at Ann Arbor. Michigan as second class mail matter. Subscriptions during regular school year by carrier, $4.00; by mail, $4.50. REPRESENTED FOR NATIONAL ADVERTISING BY National Advertising Service, Inc. College Publishers Representative 420 MADISON AVE. NEW YORK. N.Y. CHICAGO BOSTON -ASAN FRANCISCO Los ANGELES *PORTLAND -SEATTLE Board of Editors MIANAGING EDITOR .................ELSIE A. PIERCE ASSOCIATE EDITOR..........FRED WARNER NEAL ASSOCIATE EDITOR........MARSHALL D. SHULMAN George Andros Jewel Wuerfel Richard Hershey Ralph W. Hurd Robert Cummins Departmental Boards Publication Department: Elsie A. Pierce, Chairman; James Boozer, Arnold S. Daniels, Joseph Mattes, Tuure Tenander, Robert Weeks. Reportorial Department: Fred Warner Neal, Chairman; Ralph Hurd, William E. Shackleton, Irving S. Silver- man, William Spaller, Richard G. Hershey. Editorial Department: Marshall D. Shulman, Chairman; Robert Cummins, Mary Sage Montague. Sports Department: George J. Andros, Chairman; Fred DeLano and Fred Buesser, associates, Raymond Good- man, Carl Gerstacker, Clayton Hepler, Richard La- Marca. Women's Department: Jewel Wuerfel, Chairman: Eliza- beth M. Anderson, Elizabeth Bingham, Helen Douglas, Margaret Hamilton, Barbara J. Lovell, Katherine Moore, Betty Strickroot, Theresa Swab. Business Department BUSINESS MANAGEI..................JOHN R. PARK ASSOCIATE BUSINESS MANAGER . WILLIAM BARNDT WOMEN'S BUSINESS MANAGER .......JEAN KEINATH Departmental Managers Jack Staple, Accounts Manager; Richard Croushore. Na- tional Advertising and. Circulation Manager; Don J. Wilsher, Contracts Manager; Ernest A. Jones, Local Advertising Manager; Norman Steinberg, Service Manager; Herbert Falender, Publications and Class- ified Advertising Manager. NIGHT EDITOR: TUURE TENANDER Contemporary's Third Year Begins.. W HEN THE FIRST ISSUE of this year's Contemporary comes out Wednesday the magazine will be beginning its third year. That is something 'of a record for a literary magazine on the Michigan campus.. It has become increasingly evident that Contem- porary is here to stay, and that it is not merely another literary fly-by-night. From the demise of the Inlander, a score of years ago, to the organization of Contemporary, Michigan, unlike most of the other large uni- versities, has had no real literary publication. Contemporary was founded because the campus felt a need for an organ of student self expres- s sion, and a means of encouraging student writers. As such, it should receive the enthusiastib sup- port necessary to give it the complete success such a project deserves, and to make it truly representative of campus thought. The Power Of The Press.-- THE STATEMENTS of Lee A White of the Detroit News and Paul Scott Mowrer, managing editor of the Chicago Daily News, on the influence of newspapers on public opinion, must have been quite a surprise to those persons who have been proclaiming the demise of the power of the press. For these distinguished newspapermen told the University Press Club of Michigan last week that the power of the press is not dead. True, they said, the newspapers did ignominiously fail to mould public opinion, but, as Mr. White asserts, "our newspapers have never moulded public opinion." They contended. and there is much in their views with which to agree, that the power of the press lies in its function of reporting the news, informing the public and guarding the public weal. Mr. White made the statement that no newspaper convinced a single voter, one way or the other; but that the voters made up their minds on the basis of the news carried in the very newspapers, the editorial opinions of which they repudiated at the polls. "They made up their minds on the basis of the financial pages and other parts of the papers which reported the upturn and progress in business conditions," he said. And in so doing, he insisted, the news- papers indicated that they do have a power on the public mind. Mr. Mowrer agreed, in effect, with these senti ments. The main function of a newspaper, after all, he declared, is to tell the news objectively: if a newspaper does that, it has little to worry about regarding its influence or power. Mr. Mowrer pointed to the fact that his paper, some of them not so far from Ann Arbor, either -deliberately tried to fool their readers. These newspapers, it is granted, did lose their prestige and any power they may have ever possessed, to say nothing of their bad effects. upon the newspaper world generally. But we are inclined to agree with Mr. White and Mr. Mowrer that newspapers rarely mould the public mind, and that their influence depends on how well they execute their main function-telling all the news and telling it truthfully. THE FORUM Letters published in- this column should not be construed as expressing the editorial opinion of The Daily. Anonymous contributions will be disregarded. The names of communicants will, however, be regarded as confidential upon request. Contributors are asked to be brief, the editors reserving the right to condense all letters of more than 300 words and to accept or reject letters upon the criteria of general editorial importance and interest to the campus, Offers Thanks To the Editor: Thanks are due to the business staffs of The Daily and Gargoyle for their worthy coopera- tion in the securing of three Daily and two Gar- goyle complimentary subscriptions, for the use of students confined to the Health Service Infirmary. To my mind, such generosity should not go unnoticed by the general student body. -Ralph Segalman, '37. Student Christian Association. Sociology Controversy To the Editor: Although Thersites is not a loquacious soul by nature, he is unwillingly forced to take up the pen again, to calm the fears of Mr. Harold Ross. I want to assure Mr. Ross that I, not he, am Thersites, and agree with him when he says "it is only just that all praise or blame the lengthy article entitles the author to should be given to the true author." I want to assure the world that Mr. Ross had "no connection with or responsibility for that letter." Mr. Ross answers my letter from his own point of view, to which he is no doubt entitled, and which to my mind isn't very defensible. He says that the reason why I am assigned to sum- marize certain readings is that they were writ- ten by someone who knows more than I do. Un- doubtedly-in fact, there is no reason why my papers should not all get "A" if they consist of summaries of the work of learned Ph.Ds . . . providing that I still have the ability to sum- marize, which everybody I know learned in high school. But Ross goes on to say that "the sum- mary enables the professor to learn whether you comprehend the author's position." And that is precisely what a summary does not do. All it shows is a sufficiently slight acquaintance with the English language to say in 6 pages, in es- sence, what it took a Ph.D. 150 pages to say. As one sociology professor said to a large class on the morning that my initial letter appeared, a summary shows nothing, and he for one, has always encouraged his students to express them- selves and their viewpoints in their papers. (And he has-the letter wasn't pointed at him.) An- other professor decided that same morning, not to assign any more reading reports. Thersites and two Professors against Ross. Case apparently closed. But not quite. Ross misquotes or misreads me to say that I am "satisfied to do uncomplain- ingly, as you admit. . ." the hack-work objected to. What I said was that "I have been doing uncomplainingly . . ." which means that until now I have been silent, and silence is no test of satisfaction, you'll admit. Further, Ross says that for him the matter is closed and that what I should do about my complaints is not "to flaunt them extrovertedly in the Daily but to see your professor." For me the matter isn't closed. I have nothing against extroversion per se, except whenit becomes pathological. The function of the Daily's Forum is to print letters from extro- verts and introverts alike (Harold Ross in- cluded), whether they be flaunted complaints or cool analysis. It might be, as Ross says, "proper" for me to see my prof, but hardly, I am dead sure, as effective as a half-column of print which brings my point to the attention of the student body, who are the persons largely concerned. The fact that my little communication did have immediate, traceable effect is something to be considered. -Thersites. THE SCREEN AT THE MAJESTIC "MARY OF SCOTLAND" "MARY OF SCOTLAND" has the potentialities of a great production-it misses the mark slightly not so much because of historical inac- curacies as because of historical vagueness. The picture takes Mary from the time of her return to Scotland until her imprisonment in England. The long period of her imprisonment with its intrigues and political complexities is barely sketched, but comes dramatically to Mary's death on the block. Katherine Hepburn gives an interpretation of the Scots' queen that would be expected from Katherine Hepburn-but it is a believable por- trayal. Mary, handled by Miss Hepburn, is a courageous high spirited woman, with definite political abilities. She is not, however, the in- discreet feminist and romanticist that Mary is by legend. She is a woman sacrificing herself and her desires to her position-a strong willed woman caught up in circumstances. Frederick March as Bothwell is Mary's daring, faithful, protector, and as such he gives an excellent per- formance, exemplifying the pride that is the Scotman's. Darnley is an unbelievably effemi- music Russian Singers CHORAL UNION CONCERT Monday, November 16, 8:15 p.m. MOSCOW CATHEDRAL CHOIR By WILLIAM J. LICHTENWANGER AS THE DON COSSACK Russian Chorus is es- sentially military in its origin and spirit, so the Moscow Cathedral Choir is an organization devoted primarily to the singing of Russian church music. Its leader, Nicholas Afonsky, gained experience as a choral conductor during the war when he organized soldiers' choruses for the entertainment and inspiration of the Russian army, and afterwards in Moscow, where he or- ganized community singing on a large scale. But it was to church music that he eventually turned, believing that "church music is the highest ex- pression of human emotions. Lay music may occasionally soar to sublime heights, but it is in church music that we find the clearest expres- sion of man's purest aspirations, of his faith in better and greater things than mere earthly riches, and of his desire to approach the divine." Concerning the development of music in the Russian Church, Mr. Afonsky says: "The musical outline of Russian Church sing- ing had its origin in the Orient. The Ancient Greeks can really be styled the fathers of our church chorals, and the scales which form the basis of our church music have been first ap- plied and introduced into the service by St. Am- brosius in the fourth century of the present era. The reforms and additions in church chants, introduced by Pope Gregory the Great, found their application in and had a great influence on the Russian church chant, but one can hear but an echo of all this in the present-day Rus- sian chant, and the music we bring is the music of advanced musical knowledge, for many Rus- sian composers have devoted their talents to writing music of religious character, and the texts implied are filled with poetic thought of the highest order. "In my opinion, the church chant represents, more than any other form of musical expression, the yearnings and aspirations of a national soul, if such a term can be permitted. In bringing to America these chants I believe that we shall give our audiences a new insight into what is usually styled the 'Russian soul.'" In addition to sacred numbers, the Ann Arbor program of the choir will comprise excerpts from several Russian operas, as well as a number of folk and dance songs of the country. * * * * Grand Rapids Symphony CONCERT OF THE GRAND RAPIDS SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA (Friday evening, November 13, at the Civic Auditorium in Grand Rapids) Conductor: Karl Wecker. Soloist Ruggiero Ricci, ,, Violinist Overture "Secret of Suzanne" .... Wolf-Ferrari Clarionerrie ......... .......Roger-Ducasse Prelude in C sharp minor ........Rachmaninoff Concerto in G minor ................ ....Bruch (Mr. Ricci) Pacific 231 .........................Honegger Symphony. No. 2 in B minor .......... Borodin THE GRAND RAPIDS SYMPHONY is defi- nitely a civic orchestra. It plays in a civic auditorium, its membership is drawn entirely from Grand Rapids, from its lawyers and mer- chants as well as from its musicians, and the orchestra is supported almost wholly by the people of the city. That Conductor Wecker has been faced with the necessity of slowly edu- cating the musical tastes of his public is evident from the presence on the program of the time- worn C sharp minor Prelude (in an excellent and well-played arrangement by Sir Henry Wood), and such a novelty as, the Clarionnerie, a piece based on the crow of a rooster, and containing nothing of musical consequence. On the other hand, no conductor need be ashamed of a pro- gram which includes the Bruch Concerto and the Second Symphony of Borodine; and we are told that when the orchestra was organized, seven years ago, anything more "classical' than Dvor- ak's Humoresque was viewed with lifted eye- brows and closed pocketbooks by the skeptical public. Amateurs though many of the players may be, the Orchestra's performance was decidedly not an amateurish one. Amateur performances are usually marked by a certain erraticness in the manner of entrances, intonation, and other tech- nical points; whatever virtues they have are or- dinarily in the way of vigor and enthusiasm. The opposite was more or less true in regard to the Grand Rapids' performance. In intona- tion, technical facility, and general ensemble the performance approached professional stand- ards. Also, the tone quality of the various sec- tional soloists was almost uniformly excellent. Particularly would we like to mention the fine tone and finished playing of the solo hornist, W. J. McFarland, and the corresponding work of the rest of his section; ordinarily, in an am- ateur orchestra, the horn section is likely to be the weakest. Collectively, the tone of the orchestra, espe- cially of the strings was not particularly good, probably because of unevenness in ability throughout the various sections. The Orches- tra's weakest point was a visible lack of spontane- ity, and; more characteristic of an amateur group, a sluggishness in responding to the de- mands of the conductor. This was not quite so true with regard to the Borodin Symphony, a very beautiful and impressive work, in which the Orchestra did its best work of the evening. Being concerned primarily with the showing of the Orchestra, we have thus far neglected the brilliant and highly mature playing of the solo- ist, young Ruggiero Ricci-who will soon have passed out of the prodigy class. In the difficult (Continued from Page 2) For the benefit of new students, it, may be well to make clear that there is for them no charge of any kind for the dinner. The deans of the various schools and colleges and the advisers to foreign students with their wives will be your hosts and hostesses. It is, however, absolutely necessary that all acceptances be in my office, Room 9, University Hall, not later than Wed-, nesday, Nov. 18, in order that the plan for seating the tables may be care- fully made on time to notify your hosts and hostesses. J. Raleigh Nelson, Counselor to Foreign Students. The University Bureau of Appoint- ments and Occupational Information will be open to registration by stu- dents Wednesday through Saturday of this week, Nov. 18-21 inclusive. Blanks may be obtained at the office, 201 Mason Hall, hours 9-12 and 2-4 each day except Saturday, when the office will be open 9-12 only. Both seniors and graduate students, as well as staff members, are eligible for the services of the Bureau. Both February and June graduates are urged to register at this time, as this is the only general registration to be l held during the year.. There is no charge for this service, but after No- vember 21 all student taking out blanks are subject to payment of $1 late registration fee. Physical Education, Women Stu- dents: Students may register for the indoor season on Monday and Tues- day in Room 15 Barbour Gymnasium. Electives are asked to sign up at this time. Many sections are open in- cluding swimming, diving, tap, dance and ice hockey. Concerts Choral Union Concert: The Mos- cow Cathedral Choir, Nicolas Afon- sky, conductor, will give the third program in the Choral Union Con- cert Series, in Hill Auditorium, Mon- day night, Nov. 16, at 8:15 p.m. The public is respectfully requested to be seated on time as the doors will be closed during numbers. Faculty Concert: The University Symphony Orchestra, Earl V. Moore, conductor; and Hanns Pick, violon- cellist, will give a concert in Hill Auditorium this afternoon at 4:15 p.m., to which the general pub- lic, with the exception of small children, is invited without admission charge. The public is invited to be on time, as the doors will be closed during numbers. Academic Notices History 47: Midsemester Tuesday, Nov. 17, 10 a.m., Sections 1, 2 and 3, will meet in Room C, Haven. Sec- tions 4, 5 and 6 will meet in Room B. Haven. Lectures University Lecture: Dr. Salo Fink- elstein, of Cleveland, well-known cal- culating genius, will give a lecture- demonstration under the auspices of the Department of Psychology at 4:15 p.m. in Natural Science Audi- torium on Nov. 19. The public is cordially invited. The Second Lecture in the series by Dr. Ali-Kuli Khan, distinguished Persian diplomat and authority on the Baha'i teachings, will be given today at 4:15 p.m. at the Michi- gan League on the subjct, Baha'u'- Ilah's Plan for World Peace. He will also conduct the study class at the League Monday evening at 8 p.m. The public is invited to these meet- ings which are sponsored by the Baha'i Study Group. Exhibitions Exhibition, Architecture Building: An exhibition of the Ryerson Compe- tition drawings including those of teams working here under the direc- tion of Professors Hebrard and Bailey is being shown in the third floor exhibition room, Architecture Building, Nov. 11 through 18. Open from 9 to 5 p.m. The public is cor- dially invited. Exhibit of Color Reproductions of American Paintings comprising the First Series of the American Art Portfolios, recently acquired for the Institute of Fine Arts Study Room. On view daily from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. in Alumni Memorial Hall, North Gal- lery. Exhibition of Oil and Water Color Paintings Made in Spain During the Past 10 years by Wells M. Sawyer, shown under the auspices of the In- stitute of Fine Arts. Alumni Mem- orial Hall, West Gallery. Opens Sun- day, Nov. 1, 8 to 10 p.m.; thereafter daily 9 a.m. to 5 p.m., Sundays, Nov. 8 and 15 from 3 to 5 p.m. Events Of Today meeting in the Russian Tea room of the Michigan League at 6 p.m. It is urged that all members be present if, possible. If not able to attend please get in touch with Owen N. Reed. Te. 21453. Suomi Club: A meeting omi Club will be held in Room in Lat.e Hall at today. of the Su- the Upper 2:30 p.m. Stalker Hall: 9:45 a.m., Student class. Subject, "Enthusiasm for One's Work." Lead- er, Dr. C. W. Brashares. 6 p.m., Wesleyan Guild meeting. Studentdiscussion on the subject "Why Are We Learning?" Fellow- ship Hour and supper following the meeting.2 First Methodist Church:I Morning worship at 10:45 a.m. Dr.. C. W. Brashares will preach on "Gos-t sip or Gospel." Evening service, 7:30E p.m. Theme, "The Need of a Chris-I tian Crusade." First Baptist Church:E 10:45 a.m., Mr. Sayles will speakt on "The Supreme Good According to Jesus.- Roger Williams Guil:I Meets at 12 noon at Guild house. Dr. Frank W. Padelford, Boston, Ex- ecutive Secretary of Northern Baptist Board of Education, will address the student class. 6 p.m. Students at Guild house. Prof. Preston W. Slosson will speak1 on "Peace or Truce." A cordial wel- come to all students. Church of Christ (Disciples) : 10:45 a.m., morning worship. Rev.1 Fred Cowin, minister.1 12 noon, Students' Bible Class.c Leader, H. L. Pickerill. 5:30 p.m., Social Hour and Tea. 6:30 p.m., The program will con- sist of a panel discussion on world peace. A group of five on the panel will represent the positions of the1 following: the average citizen, thec business man, the preparedness ad- vocate, womanhood, and the muni- tions maker. Opportunity will be given for the audience to participate. Bethlehem Evangelical Church, South Fourth Avenue. Theodore Schmale, Pastor. The morning worship program at Bethlehem Evangelical Church will include a special song by the Con- firmation classes and a sermon for young people on the topic "A Certain Young Man." The service begins at 10:30 a.m. The Young People's League will at- tend the Rally Banquet to be given at Emanuel Church, Manchester. Cars will leave the local church at 4:15 p.m. Harris Hall: The regular student meeting will be held at 7 p.m. in Harris Hal. Pro- fessor Robert Angell will be the speaker. All students and their friends are cordially invited. Saint Andrew's Episcopal Church, 8 a.m., Holy Communion. 9:30 a.m., Church School. 11 a.m., Kindergarten. 11 a.m., Morning prayer and ser- mon by the Right Reverend Jon N. McCormick, D.D. The Lutheran Student Club: Prof. Ralph Hammett of the School of Ar- chitecture will show slides on the great cathedrals of Europe and dis- cuss the effect the cathedrals had on architecture. Fellowship and sup- per hour at 5:30 p.m. Forum hour at 6:30 p.m. Everyone is welcome. The Lutheran Student Club will have a 'Bible Study Class on Tues- day at 7:15 p.m. at the Michigan League. Everyone is welcome. Congregational Church: 10:45 a.m. Service of Worship, ser- mon by the minister. Following the sermon Prof. Preston W. Slosson will give an address on "False Gods," his subject being, "The State as God, or Worshipping Leviathan." International Night, 6:30 at the Student Fellowship. All foreign stu- dents on the campus are cordially invited to be the guests of the Fel- lowship. There will be a panel dis- cussion on the subject, "The Issues of Youth-East and West," led by Dr. Blakeman and a group of foreign students. Refreshments will be served. Congregational students and friends are urged to attend this most in- teresting meeting. Unitarian Church: 3 p.m., Symphony on the Air. 5 p.m. Twilight Service, Mr. Marley will speak on "John Reed and the Gospel of the Authentic." Violin solo' by Edwin Sherman. 7:30, Liberal Students' Union. Round Table discussion by students on "Changing Status of the Newspa- per."2 DAILY OFFICIAL BULLETIN Publication in the Bulletin is constructive notice to all members or the University. Copy received at the ogee of the Assistant to the Presidems until 3:30; 11:00 a.m. on Saturday. nvited to spend a pleasant evening t St. Paul's Lutheran Church. Trinity Lutheran Church: Services will be held at 10:30 a.m. n Trinity Lutheran Church, corner Af William and Fifth Ave. The Rev. Eenry Yoder, pastor, will use as his theme "Strong in the Lord." Health Service Visitation rroject will hold its initial meeting at 3:30 p.m. Sunday afternoon, Nov. 15 in the Upper Room at Lane Hall. All those interested are urged to attend. Beta Kappa Rho: Those girls at- tending University Symphony Con- cert will meet at the League Build- ing at 4 p.m. Druids: The regular meeting will be held this afternoon at 5 p.m. in the Tower Room. Members are urged to be prompt. Coming Events Research Club will meet in Room 2528 East Medical Building on Wed- nesday, Nov. 18 at 8 p.m. The fol- lowing papers will be presented: "Atomic Disintegration by the Cyclo- tron" by Prof. James M. Cork; "Kor- ean Astronomy" by Prof. W. Carl Rufus. The Council will meet at 7:30. Luncheon for Graduate Students on Wednesday, Nov. 18 at 12 noon in the Russian Tea Room of the Michi- gan League Building. Cafeteria serv- ice. Dr. Louis A. Strauss, Isaac New- ton Demmon, Professor of English Language and Literature, will speak informally on "The Community of Scholarship." Juniors, School of Education: An organization meeting of the junior class of the School of Education is hereby called for 4:05 p.m. on Tues- day afternoon, Nov. 17, in Room 2436 University Elementary School. German Table for Faculty Mem- bers: The first luncheon meeting will be held at the Michigan Union, Mon- day, Nov. 16, at 12:15 p.m. All fac- ulty members interested in speaking German are cordially invited. Deutscher Verein: There will be a meeting Tuesday, Nov. 17, at 8 p.m. in the Michigan League. Miss Mary A. Gies, Grad., who studied at the Uni- versity of Heidelberg last year, and Mr. Israel Warheit, Grad., who spent the year studying at the University of Zurich, Switzerland, will discuss informally student life at those in- stitutions. All those interested, and especially old members and former members of the Deutscher Zirkel, are invited to attend. A.I.Ch.E.: All Chemical and Metal- lurgical Engineers are invited to at- tend the meeting Wednesday, Nov. 18, 7:30 p.m. in Room 1042.East En- gineering Building. Mr. H. V. Smith, Assistant Superintendent of the Skel- ly Oil Refinery, El Doredo, Kan., will speak on "Petroleum Refining." The first of three short quizzes, on gen- eral topics, will be given to members in competition for a de luxe edition of the "Handbook of Chemistry and Physics." Please bring a pencil with you. Refreshments will be served in the Chapter Room. Theatre Arts Committee: All those interested in working in the box office, please, attend a short meeting at 5 p.m. Monday, Nov. 16, at the League. The room will be posted. The Lutheran Student Club will have a Bible Study Class on Tues- day at 7:15 p.m. at the Michigan League. Everyone is welcome. Mimes: There will be an important meeting Monday afternoon, Nov. 16, 4:30 p.m., at the Union. The room number will be posted on the Union bulletin board. All members are re- quested to be present. University of Michigan Flying Club: There will be a meeting of the University of Michigan Flying Club, Tuesday, Nov. 17, at 7:30 p.m., Room 302 at the Michigan Union. All students who are pilots, and those desirous of becoming pilots are invited to attend. Hillel Players: There will be an open meeting Wednesday, Nov. 18, at 7:30 p.m. A one-act play entitled "Theatre," by F. Rubinstein, will be presented. At the business meeting, plans for the next program will be announced. The Michigan Dames will initiate the new members at the general meeting at the Michigan League, Tuesday evening; Nov. 17. The wives of students and internes who would like to become Dames, but who have not yet been reached by the Member- ship committee, are cordially invited to call the Membership chairman, Mrs. Ford Graham at 22147, or the Treasurer, Mrs. David Andrews at 6917. Faculty Women's Club: The Tues- day Afternoon Play-Reading Section will meet on Tuesday afternoon Nov. 17, at 2:15 p.m. in the Alumnae Room of the Michigan League. Health Service Visitation Service: Meeting this afternoon at 3:30 p.m. N