ow-mlw --- 4t £iduian autv blished every morning except Monday during the University year Board in Control of Student Publications. mber of the Western Conference Editorial Association. e Associated Press is exclusively entitled to the use for re- tion of all news dispatches credited to it or not otherwise d in this paper and the local news published herein. ered at the Post Office at Ann Arbor, Michigan, as second matter. Special rate of postage granted by Third Assistant aster General. bscription by carrier, $4.00; br mail, $4.50 ices: Ann Arbor Press Building, Maynard Street, Ann Arbor, 'an. Phones: Editorial, 4926; Business, 21214. EDITORIAL STAFF Telephone 4925 MANAGING EDITOR RICHARD L.ETOBIN Editor-.................................David M. Nichol al Director'............................Beach Conger, Jr. .ditor ...................................Carl Forsythe Editor .......... ...................Sheldon C. Fullerton i's Editor.........................Margaret M. Thompson Reflections.........................Bertram J. Askwith nt News Editor.........................Robert L. Pierce NIGHT EDITORS B. Gilbreth J. CullenKennedy Goodman Denton O. Kunze Karl Seiffert )George Jerry E. Rosenthal A. Stauter John S. Townsend Charles A. Sanford er J. Myers Jones ey Arnhelku Bagley on E. Becker as Connellan h R. Cooper 'r M. Harrison ,on Helper h Hoff ma hine Woodhams tte Cummings hy Brockman Wadsworth orie Thomson gia Geisman Sports Assistants. John W. Thomas REPORTERS James Krotozyner Robert Merritt Henry Meyer Marion Milezewski Albert Newman Jerome Pettit John' Pritchard Joseph Renihan Beatrice Collins Ethel Arehart Barbara Hall Susan Manchester" Margaret O'Brien Louise Crandall EDITORIAL COMMENT_ THE LEGIONNAIRES AT DETROIT. (From the M. C. Advocate) By WILLIAM PHELPS.' Detroit has been for a whole week in the throes of entertaining the American Legion. The cold fact is that we have really been entertaining five legions. First of all, there were the honest-to-goodness Legionnaires who really fought for their country and then went back to lives of usefulness and service and got started on the patriotism of peace. No pen will ever record all the fide episodes of the meeting. There were reunions, little and big, meeting of old friends, fellowships of the highest order. It was quite a sight to see the men with their families pouring into Detroit. We had no trouble with the men who brought their families to Detroit. There were plenty of fine things that the big crowd did not see. Then there were the Legionnaires of the baser sort, made still rougher by the war, releasing for the week their coarser selves and taking.off the lids from: their lives. They showed their real natures by their "fun," insulting girls, playing crude jokes on women, knocking at the doors of hotel rooms and demanding admission, throwing things at folks, playing 'craps in hotel lobbies, having what they called a good time. The Detroit Times reporter put a lot into one brief item: "See that man over there," a service man remarked to a pal about a celebrant who had fallen by the wayside, "one more convention will wipe him off the map." This writer saw more drunks in eleven hours than he has seen in eleven years in Detroit. Knowing what was coming, the wise and wary ones prepared for the worst. Some stores boarded up their windows and some of the hotels stripped their lobbies of all furniture and pictures, and even their chandeliers were taken down, ready for the rough- house on a big scale. One big merchant warned his clerks against crossing the Legionnaires, instructing them to put up even with their freshness or worse, almost anything to save the store against arousing ill will. The city also took precautions to keep the roofs of poorer buildingp free from crowds, fearing' possible collapse of frail' buildings. The, possible collapse of morals did not seem to bother many people. Having had five legions here for a week, we now understand better the cost of war. 0 NO SUBSTITUTE FOR COLLEGE '1 Alfred Stresen-Reuter - William Thal G. R. Winters Charles Woolner Brackley Shaw Ford Spikerman Parker Snyder Cile Miller Elsie Feldman Eileen Blunt Eleanor Rairdon Martha Littleton Prudence Foster TED mRPLL BACK-TALK FROM COEDS AFTER BEAUTY QUIZ Gee whiz, it seems that we never can get rid of the beauty business. Sometimes we think that maybe we put our foot into more than we can chew. Today we got a let- ter from a coed. Now it isn't that wd don't like to get letters from ladies because we do; oh sure, we love it, but this particular letter- well, perhaps we'd better print it and show you what we mean. Dear Smiley, I read all those things that you printed about what the freshmen think of the girls on the campus and I think you are simply horrid. Why don't you give the girls a chance and ask them what they think of the boys. That would give the women an opportunity to get even. I dare you, Mr. Smiley. An In dignant Coed I guess you can see now what we meant when we said those things about the letter. We of course understand that it is only fair that the females be given a chance to vent their recriminations but to tell the truth we are a lot braver on a typewriter than we are on the campus asking questions, expecially of women. We find it Very hard to approach, accost, and interrogate women whom we have never before seen. Even if we got so far as to ask a girl a question we would fidget around and blush like anything and we wouldn't be able to remember a single thing she said, and as for asking her name and address-Gee whiz, we are blushing and fidgeting already. And another thing-it is beyond our powers of discernment to dis- tinguish between a Freshman wo- man and an upperclass woman. However, despite the fact that we are scared to death, we have de- cided that it is only right that the women be given their oportunity. In the very near future this column will be devoted to interviews with women. We hope it will shed some light on Campus Beauty; at any rate we will get to know some aw- ful swell people we betcha. .This is How We Feel When We Interview Women BUSINESS STAFF Telephone 21214 ARLES T. KLINE.........................Business Manager RRIS P. JOHNSON.......................Assistant Manager Departnitnt Managers ertising ........... ...... ... .vernon Bishop rertising .............Robert B. Callahan ertising..... ..........William W. Davis vice ........ ....... .Byron C. Vedder biceations ... ........ ............William T. Brown "culation .......................... ....Marry R. Begley counts . ....... ....... .... ..Richard Stratemeier men's Business Manager ......................Ann W. Verner Assistants Al Aronsen Willard Freehling 'Thomas Roberta bert E. Buraley Herbert Greenstone R. A. Saltzstein llard A. Combs John Keyser Bernard E. Schnacke nClark Arthur F. Kohn Graf ton W. Sharp stave Dalberg Bernard H. Good Cecil E. Welch bert E. Finn James Lowe hryn Bayless Ann Gallmeyer Helen Olsen nna Becker Ann Harsha Marjorie Rough nevieve Field Kathryn Jackson Mary E. Watts xine Fischgrund Dorothy Laylin NIGHT EDITOR-J. CULLEN KENNEDY SATURDAY, OCTOBER 3, 1931 . I (Purdue Exponent) Cover9S. ances- in 1932, In spite of the business depression, unemploy- ment, industrial crises, and other related troubles, chances for President Hoover in 1932 are any- thing but bad. Mr. Coolidge's outspoken support in the recent issue of a prominent magazine cleared away what doubt there might have been as to the Republican nomination, and the G.O.P. organiza- tion could not do much better-than nominate the present imcumbent. And such has always been their policy. The claim that Hoover will lose many Southern votes, which he received in 1928, can in part be, offset by the reapportionment of representatives, thus giving several states more votes. Michigan, for one, gains four more votes in the electoral col- lege, while California gains seven. These two states have always gone G.O.P., both good and lean years, and there seems to be no good reason why they should not do the same this next elec- tion. On the other hand, most of the states which will lose votes in the electoral college are those which will probably switch back to the Democratic standard next November. So the Hoover cam- paign will not lose as many votes in this manner as was at first expected. From the Republican side, further, while the benefits of the international debt moratorium may still be debatable, he undoubtedly strengthened his position considerably by this move. To those who say he has done nothing to aid unemploy- ment, his defenders answer that neither have the Democrats. Their coalition with the independent Republicans certainly gave them a majority in the last Congress, yet they failed to accomplish any- Speaking recently before a group of Kansas fresh- men, Chancellor Lindley of the University of Kansas stated: "There is no substitute for college. Men of great intellectual power have tried to find substitutes for a college education, but they have failgd." He explained further that there are two types of stu- dents who go to college; first, the prudent type that goes because it is the right thing to do. This type comes to school because it wants the social prestige of a college. Second, there is the ambitious type, the type that always seeks to forge ahead, the type that wants to learn about the activities of the world, to become a citizen of the world and to make the world' better for its having lived in it' The Kansas Chancellor placed special emphasis' on the value of a college education when he said, there was no substitute for it. It is true that there are men and women all around us who have forged ahead to positions of responsibility and leadership with no college education, but who can tell what their limits may have been had they had the ad- vantages of a college education on top of their natural talents? Of still greater significance is his division of col- lege students into the two above groups. This division holds true for not only the University of Kansas, but for every institution of higher learning in the country, particularly co-educational institutions. There is always a group of men and women who attend college merely because it is the proper thing3 to do. Their social prestige at home would be seri- ously menaced if schooling ceased at the close of high school days. This type of students generally keeps its desire to broaden its educational horizon but because that requirement must be met if it is to continue in the university. This type of students is not fooling its college or university half as much as itself. On the other hand is the ambitious type, the men and women who come to college because they seek to forge ahead, to better prepare themselvs for the field of service they may enter after they have been graduated. This is the type of students that really' makes a university. Its members are the life'of both academic and activity work. They have a definite goal ahead of them, a unified' four-year plan of education with a purpose back of it. There may be in some minds a bit of doubt con- cerning the non-existence of a substitute for four years at college. Possibly a dozen years, more or less, of experience in some particular lines of activity have a value equal to or greater than our four years at college. Be that as it may, there can be little doubt concerning the future prospects of the two types of students discussed above. The former, which seeks social prestige, lives for today only; it lacks the vision and foresight which will be largely responsible for the advancement and success to be attained by that latter type of students which has the ambition and the desire to forge ahead, to prepare as best they can for life's battles. 41 And there is we would like something else that to have understood In short, the Republican party has only to tand pat as far as issues are concerned. Although he next Congress may possibly make or break it, t has been far more dangerous as regards the )emocrats. A false step on the part of the latter vill cause any vestige of hope for 1932 to fade as uickly as it ever came. No one can tell for sure ret who will control the Congress. And it will be nuch more dangerous to the Democrats if they hemselves control the Congress, than it will be o the Republicans if they control it. No matter vhat happens, the former must be extremely cau- ious. And caution brings delay, something which hie public will not stand for at this time. Having surmounted the'obstacles of the Con- ress, however, the Democrats will have to cope rith the problem of selecting a nominee. Roose- elt and Smith, both NeW Yorkers and alleged rets, will alienate part of the Southern vote. .oosevelt, with all his talk about the power ques- on, will never be able to make an issue on a Libject of whether or not the individual can save 3 a year on his electric light bill. His rather lib- ral tendencies lately have caused no small alarm > business men of the country. Neither Owen 'oung nor Newton D. Baker will be acceptable > the more liberal west, particularly in the smaller :ates. They represent too conservative interests. oo litle is known about Governor Ritehie ihe around this campus. There are several idle persons who are bruit- ing about certain stories about the integrity of the Editor. They don't believe that we really rode a bycy- cle up and down the front steps of Angell Hall. All we can say is that if those silly people would think for a few consecutive moments they would realize that we only rode up and down one step at a time, and if you think that that's an easy thing to do just try it. We did something else that was a lot harder, too. We rode around in a circle on those big blocks of gran- ite on each side of the front steps. You might try to do that, you scof- fers. * * * Here is something to look for- ward to. Our benevolent Uni- versity has installed the most powerful- reproducing 1ou d- speaker in the whole city as standard equipment for the football stadium. They were trying it out yesterday while we were out on the University Golf course trying to break 125. They started playing "When the Organ Plays at Sundown" when we were on the second hole, and by the time we had gotten into the trap on the fifth they had shifted to "The Alpine Milkman." We are spec- ulating about the selections to be played this afternoon at the double-header. NEW HUMOR TREND INDICATED IN COACH K?KE'S SPEECH In his speech at the Freshman banquet Thursday night Coach Harry Kipke told this anecdote: There were two varsity football men out fishing and they were catching just pecks of fish but they had to go in to football practice. They naturally didn't want to for- get the spot where they had got- ton so many fish so they sought to designate the place for future ref- erence. One cut a notch in the side of the boat. "Why you old sil- lc_,,, an +1- -4. . 1 - 44-....__ Now nounce and let there is a great discussion over how to pro- "Eugenie." Why not just call it a little lid, it go at that?-Detroit Free Press. CAN U OIPXNION To The Editor: If you have any more to say about the American Legion Convention, will you also print the enclosed clipping beside it so people will know how much value to attach to your criticism? KENNETH B. CARTER. The clipping in question is nothing more than a >"e -in ~f - irr 1i1, ,...... ., . - . _