THE MICHIGAN DAILY SATRAYm mnaAPRIL . (Continued from Page Nine) 7 (2) That it is common knowl- edge now that there is, unfor- tunately, dishonesty even of ac rather gross type, in any large body of persons. The files of Thet Daily and of every administrativer officer upon the campus will bear1 witness to the truth of this state-1 ment.- (3) As there can be no abso- lutes in marking papers, it fol- lows that the attainment of a high degree by cheating unfavorably1 affects students who have notr cheated. (4) The problem varies in differ-< ent departments. Thus in some departments conditions make it 1 very much harder to prevent cheating in examinations, as now [ conducted, than is the case int some other departments. Depart- ments in which the present schemet is working well would, therefore, have less reason to change to a new system. Moreover, high1 grades are today the practical as- surance of good positions upont graduation, to those who obtain such grades. This increases thei temptation to cheat, and again unfavorably affects the non- cheater. I firmly believe that the great ma-f jority of our students are animatedt by high standards of honor. The question for them tO decide is whether they are willing to run risks and as- sume the unpleasant obligations in- dicated in the foregoing. Present ex- perience on the campus in this matter is, in my opinion, unsatisfac- tory. I am open-minged but ,a bit skeptical. Henry M. Bates. Dean Whitney (An Interview) "I am entirely in sympathy with any movement which looks toward the placing of responsibility upon stu- dents. It should be understood by this to mean that nothing in this lihe should be forced upon the students, but it should be something that they would be willing to assume (the re- sponsibility)," according to Dean Allen S. Whitney of the School of Education. If the students are will- ing to assume the responsibility of conducting examinations under the Honor System, Dean Whitney believes' it will be a success. "STARRY-EYED ZION QtIXOTE" To the Editor: From the letter by Mr. Jesse Wil- liams supporting the so-called Honor l System, it is apparent that another starry-eyed Don Quixote, this time in the guise of man of letters and club- m:an, has appeared on the local scene. Because of the prestige of Mr. Wil- liams' name, it seems well that his pronouncements be tested out by as- sertions which are at least as demon- strable as those of the illustrious l author. Mr. Williams' position, briefly sum- marized, is as follows: "It (the Honor System) has met with complete, un- qualified and unquestionable success in every class in every department in! every one of those thirty-three years i (at Princeton). .Vloreover, every doubting Thomas . . . who has 1 taken the trouble to make a thorough ! investigation of the matter, instead of making apriori generalizations . . .1 will admit the entire correctness of | my statement." Again he says: "The' Honor System works successfully every'where." (The heavy type is not mine.) Further: "I- understand it is working admirably here in the En- gineering department." Regarding those dolts who dis- agree with him regarding the virtues of the nostrum, the following phrases i occur to Mr. Williams: "apriori gen- eralizations," "prejudices," "inade- quate knowledge of herd psychology,"i "absurd little pessimists," "old dodos." Now to business. I privilege my- I self some private doubts as to the lit- eral accuracy of Mr. Williams' agser- tions regarding Princeton, but for the purposes of the present discussion . they may all pass as gospel truth. He later refers to Princeton as "that ancient and intentionally small (the heavy type is mine) seat of learning," and in the same paragraph refers to the esprit de corps among the stu- dents of that institution. In the fol- lowing paragraph he reenforces his! belief in "how simple and reasonable it all is" by an analogy to a gentle- men's club, and the fate of cheaters. . Unfortunately, my own experiences with the so-called Honor System, gained from three years' work in the Engineering college of the University of Michigan, do not inspire me to join in Mr. Williams' hallelujah chorus! with any genuine enthusiasm. In fact. as concerns freshmen and sophomore classes, I would say the so-called Honor System is a broad and ludi* crous farce. These classes, it should be noted, are not gentlemen's clubs; this Assumption is gratuitous, since a! neither are they products of an "an- certain unsociability, plus a tendencyN cient and intentionally small" institu- to mind my own business, combinedt tion. They are polyglot assemblies of to keep me in the dark as to the! boys, a fair number of whom are topics under discussion. I submit,c dubious as to whether or not they will however, that such buzzing anarchy I end up as restaurant keepers, realtors is harassing in the extreme, whatever1 or engineers, and who are almost be its cause.< destitute of any sense of professional In short, my own personal experi- pride. Honest enough in the main, as ence, compared with the evidence of honesty goes, with a very hazy idea, my scouts in the Engineering collegei many of them, of what college is all today, on the faculty and among the about. ... In the upper-class student body, whose names I will be4 groups the system of non-supervision, 1 glad to furnish Mr. Williams if this1 facetiously dight the Honor System, article comes to his attention and he works much better, as it has among is interested further in the matter,1 small group's in the Literary college combined with the fact that the Uni- here for a period longer, even, than versities of Illinois and Cornell, after I Mr. Williams' thiity-three years at having given the so-called Honor Princeton. , System a reasonable trial, are back' Before proceeding further, it may under the old regime, have lead me to be well to describe the system to definite doubts regarding the univer- which I allude. It is possible that Mr.) sality of applicability of the system Williams and I do not refer to the for which Mr. Williams so heroically , same thing. At Michigan, the Honor pleads. May I incidentally direct the System is a combination of the ro- I latter's attention to the dearth, in the mantic-idealistic and the pseudo- above remarks, of those apriori gen- practical, of an unusually nonsensical eralizations which Mr. Williams so and delightful blend. Faculty super- deplores, and which, may one inhospi- vision of examinations is removed, tably add, are not precisely conspicu-E which will, it is assumed, guarantee ous by their absence in Mr. Williams'! ipso facto the honesty of all adven- own epistle. turous sprits, nurtured perhaps in N. W. Eddy, '20, ' complete ignorance of the noblesse Instructor in Modern Languages. oblige shibboleth, who would other-t wise inevitably risk detection by alert T proctors and expulsion from school for the mere fun of beating the sys- te m.u el R o m antic(A n I t r i w dese rngofa fellows, surely, and That examinations in the Medical} deser-ving of a better fate than the school have been conducted under Honor System, which so effectually some sort of an honor system in the squolches (see Mr. Williams' letter) past for more than 12 years and that their activities! . . . On the other for the past seven years the methods I hand, having thus eliminated all pre- employed in each case have worked 14neditated cheating, the students successfully, with the lone exception kind was felt to be necessary, for, it, was argued, if a student did not wish to be honorable during his Medical school days the danger of his being a cheat when he got into practice was imminent. Galens, honorary junior medical society. was asked to take charge of the matter. A committee was appointed of which Dr. Simpson was chairman, and the results of their investigations demonstrated that the real reason for failure had been that each class made its own rules as to the conduct of the honor committees. Consequently, the system worked well in one group and questionably in an- other. The new plan abolished indi- vidual class control, and supplement- ed it with a scheme whereby every student upon matriculation should be fully informed as to the workings of ' the honor system and asked whether l or not he was in sympathy with such a plan. If so, it was provided that he should sign a statement to that effect on the registration form. In other words, Dr. Simpson pointed out, to gain admission to the Medical school. the student has to agree to be honest with himself and with his fellows. Dr. Simpson feels certain that the council for deciding cases of viola- tion of the. honor code has been very quiet about its work, and that the Dean has acted in accordance with its recommendations in every case. 'WARE INFERIORITY ('01.-PLEX! I To the Editor: Mr. Jesse Lynch Williams' recent letter to The Michigan Daily, about the honor system, has interested me more than a little. Like Mr.. Wil- (Continued on Page Twelve) Tnwentu-fourth Atiniversar3 fLutz Clothing Sore. 217 SOUTH MAIN eh 's Furnishingsor Spring at the Most Reasonable Prices : Y8 ,t i Shirts and Ties which we have in stock will suit the student's desire for Spring fur- nishings. "It Papsto Trade with Lutz's." themselves are to be alert for any of a rat] cheating that may arise among their ago, was number through spontaneous com- H. Simp bustion or the wiles of the devil, and Dr. Sim are to accuse the malefactor viva- out that vcce. If the accused denies the was not charge, and if the Paul Pry who ac- such, bu cuses him is able to escape with his anism o life among his aSsociates, a complaint that tim may be formally laid before the Honor class to Committee of students. I year, elE This is a not too flattering but cide wh4 reasonably life-like picture of the sys- should 1 tem under which I labored and cursed tions for for three years. It was no uncommon dicated thing for low-voiced consultations to the class be held among friendly groups scat- I system t tered about the room; nay, small- ago vot sized riots of discussion were not un- claiming known. To be sure, I agree with Mr. 1reasofn Williams that these amicable chats The u no doubt concerned such irrelevarnt olitionc matters as next week's dance date, or freshme the prospects for Coach Yost's War- several riors next season, although indeed trouble. her stormy period three years s made known by Dr. Walter son, instructor in pathology. pson then went on to point apparent failure at this time due to the honor system, as at concerned rather the mech- - ,. f its management Up until e, it was customary for each meet at the beginning of the ect its class officers, and de- ether or not the honor system be employed in the examina- r that class. 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