4 pini0 Page 6 The Michigan Daily Vol. XCII, No. 61-S Ninety-two Years of Editorial Freedom Edited and managed by students at the University of Michigan State directieons T HE GOVERNOR'S race for the November election is set, leaving Ann Arbor's favorite son Edward Pierce to watch from the sidelines, and the state with a choice of a har- dline conservative in Richard Headlee and a rather unknown quantity in James Blanchard. Unfortunately for Pierce, it was politics as usual in the Democratic primary. Although Blanchard remained vague throughout the campaign on just where he stood on the issues, he had the support of the party machinery, the UAW, and a $1.2 million campaign budget to put him over the top. On the Republican.side, the race was rather unusual. Headlee captured the nomination, and thus the party rejected the pragmatic approach of Milliken and Brickley for the dogmatic ap- proach of the party's right wing. In Headlee, we see a haunting image of a Ronald Reagan in Lansing. Headlee offers much the same as candidate Reagan did with his promise to painlessly slash taxes and programs. That clearly has not worked for the nation and Headlee has yet to explain how it will work for Michigan. 'Many wish they could say what Blanchard's vision of Michigan's future is, but he preferred to leave state Democrats in the dark. That may have worked in the primary, but in the general election voters are not likely to support such an evasive candidate. At this point in its history, Michigan needs a governor who has not only a clear plan for rec- tifying the state's chronic economic problems, but a workable one. Before election time in November, Blanchard and Headlee have a lot of questions to answer. Friday, August 13, 1982 The Michigan Daily A PLO view of the war in Lebanon A Hatem Hussaini is a spokesman for the Palestinian Liberation Organization office at the United Nations in New York. Wednesday he spoke with Daily Opinion Page Editor Kent Redding about the Israeli invasion of Lebanon and the future of the PLO and Palestinian people. Daily: The recent events surrounding the negotiations in Lebanon seem to suggest that a settlement has been achieved. What are the feelings of the PLO now that its departure from West Beirut seems imminent? Hussaini: The recent events in Beirut indicate that Israelis want to annihilate the PLO. For the last three days and today, Israeli warplanes, tanks, and warships have been bombarding west Beirut. But you cannot solve the Palestinian problem by military means. Daily: Will the goals of the PLO remain the same in the aftermath of Beirut? Hussaini: The goals are well- known. The PLO is struggling for freedom-for the liberation of the Palestinian people. Today they are living without civil, human, or national rights. The goal is to achieve self- determination and therefore an independent Palestinian state PLO come out and recognized Isarel's right to exist? Hussaini: Because first of all, the PLO does not have a state. It is states that recognize each other. Second, which Israel is the PLO to recognize? What are the bounldaries of that state? Which Israel? An imperial Israel? A militarily superior Israel that can decide Lebanon's destiny and Jorans destiny? Is this the kind of Israel you want the Palestinians to recognize? Or is-it an Israel that will respond, that will recognize Palestinian rights, that will recognize the right of Palestinians to statehoodand seld-determination, that will coexist with the Palestinians? Daily: Israel claims that the PLO does not represent the majority of the Palestinian people. How do you react to that assertion? Hussaini: Well fine. Let them have free elections on the West Bank and Gaza under inter- national supervision, not Israeli guns, and let us see who the Palestinian people choose as their representatives. We accept that. As you know, we had elec- tions in 1975. Most of the mayors who were elected were dismissed by Israel. Daily: Some have charged the PLO with coercing and threatening Palestinians to join the organization or to bend to its will. Hussaini: Actually the PLO was established in 1964 in Jerusalem and its first congress was held there. The Palestinians were dispersed in 1948, so they went through a process by 1964, after some 20 years of exile, of sending their representatives from the exiled communities and establishing a congress in exile. That congress has improved its democratic means since that time. Daily: How do you view the role of the United States in the war in Lebanon? Hussaini: U.S. policy is really responsible for these horrible crimes committed against the Palestinians. The U.S. watched in silence in the '30s and '40s as Jews were slaughtered and today it watches and gives Israel the weapons to slaughter the Palestinians. And what is wrong with speaking to the PLO? You speak to the communist countries. You spoke with the Viet Cong and the Vietnamese when the U.S, was at war. The Palestinians are not at war with the U.S. So, the U.S. should talk to our leaders. It should speak to them directly to ask them, "What do you want? What do you think? How can we have peace? You people have been exiled for 35 years now and we want to help you to find a solution." Daily: But the rationale behind the U.S. policy is the PLO's many acts of terrorism. Hussaini: Look, Begin was a terrorist leader in the 1930s. He planted bombs in hotels. Sharon committed atrocities in 1955 when his paratroopers killed civilians. Many of the current Israeli leaders participated in terrorist acts against the British and the Palestinians. It is documented. What is happening now in Lebanon is terrorism-Israeli state terrorism. If you condemn the placing of bombs and the killing of Jews in Paris, you should also condemn the shooting and bombing of Palestinian: refugee camps in Lebanon. War is a huge form of terrorism. We want an end to war and we want peace based on the right of the Palestinians to live as a free people on their land in a state of their own. Daily: What is the position of the PLO on the Camp David afreements? Hussaini: Well, it has been proven over the last three years that Camp David could not provide anything meaningful for the Palestinians. The Egyptians negotiated with the Israelis for three long years and tried to con- vince Begin to clarify what he means by autonomy. But Begin kept saying that the Israelis should control the water sources, the land, the police forces, and the security. This would mean that the Palestinians would not have autonomy. Daily: In the end, what must be done to bring about a resolution to the Palestinian problem? Hussaini: We must implement the United Nations resolutions. We accept an international con- sensus. You see, U.N. resolution 242 says Israel must withdraw from the occupied territories of the West Bank, Gaza, and the Golan Heights. We accept that of course. Then we go a step further and say on these territories the Palestinians must exercise the rights of self-determination. So 242 must be put in that context so Israel must withdraw from these territories where two million Palestinians live. These people should have representation: I where they can elect their own 'PRETTY SOON OL)R ERMAN ALLIES SDLP government freely and be SEE THE uIGHTi reunited as a people. This right has been endorsed by the United Nations General Assembly, and a large number of European coun- tries. Only the U.S. refuses to ac- cept this because the U.S. is black- mailed by Israel. Daily: Do you think eventually the PLO could live with Israel as a neighbor if the Palestinians gain autonomy? Hussaini: Yes, the Jews and the Palestinians can live together %9 ,yjsrgi ~in peace. They lived together in peace throughout history and they can live together in the future with equal rights. The modalities of how they can ap- & z4E proach this, that will be deter- mined by negotiations. - - Daily: Then bwhy-hasn't the 4 4