The Michigan Daily-Tuesday, July 29, 1980-Page 13 An interview with I. (Continued from Page 4 Y Anna Karenina and enjoy it and understand it. He didn't need guides and explanations. It was crystal clear. While Joyce used his gifts to become so ob- scure that readers would have to use 10 dictionaries instead of one. Q. Some people do genuinely enjoy Joyce, though. A. Almost everyone of them has a Ph.D. or is working for one. They enjoy obscurity and riddles. It's their privilege. Q. It sounds like you have little sympathy for American writers today, who often feel that their books go out into a void. A. If their books go into a void it is because they write for a void. If you write for people, you will reach them. Q. Then does the distinction usually made bet- ween serious literature and popular literature not exist for you? A. Yes, there is a difference. A popular writer knows how to tell a story, but he tells it in such a primitive way that to a good reader it looks obvious and banal. Anna Karenina entertains, and so does a kitsch novel. The question is, what entertains whom. Q. You seem to appeal to both audiences. A. My editor Abe Cohen once said, a pig will eat garbage, but he'll also eat a piece of cake if you give him one. There is something of a pig in all of us. Q. You've said that a writer needs to have roots in order to produce good fiction. A. Yes. Real characters come from real people, and real people have roots. You can't write a novel about just A Human Being. You have to pick a specific man or woman, a person with an address. Real writers, therefore, stay in their own environ- ment, in their own corner. Flaubert's Madame Bovary could only have taken place in one par- ticular French provincial town, at one particular time. It couldn't have happened as Flaubert wrote it a hundred years before, or in Dublin. Q. You write so much about spiritualism, mysticism, demons- A. Not about spiritualism, but about psychic phenomena like clairvoyance, premonitions, telepathy, yes. This is a subject which literature has neglected, but to me it is life. Q. I've often wondered how much of this you literally believe, and how much you are using metaphorically, for your own artistic ends. A. Well, both. It's a literary metaphor, but at the same time I do believe in entities, creatures, souls, whatever you want to call them, the existence of which we don't have any scientific evidence for, but which we feel just the same-at least I do. You can't photograph them or bring them into a laboratory, but can you bring into a lab love, talent, the human spirit? Q. Must a writer believe in demons to write a good novel? A. I never said that! A writer can be a materialist, an agnostic, and still write. There's no such thing as "must" for a writer. However, it is a fact that you find the element of God-searching in the works of all great writers. Great men ask the eternal questions. For them, this is a must. Q. You seem to have an inexhaustible supply of characters. I have the impression that people are drawn to pour out their life stories to you. A. All the time! The moment I ask, out comes a story. Sometimes even before I ask. And if they ask, I tell them mine. The passion of the writer exists in everyone of us. We don't want our experience to be ours alone, we'want others to know about it too,to share it. I listen to the story, I understand it as best I can, I store it up in my memory, and someday it comes back to me. You can erase a recording machine, but you cannot erase anything from the brain. Q Do you still learn from other writers? A. Most of what I learn now comes from life, not literature. The writers of this century, after all, are not the writers of the 19th century. We don't have Tolstoys and Dostoyevskys and Flauberts. However, this century is not finished yet. Q. Are there any new writers you admire? A. I'm glad there are old writers I admire! B. Singer Q. What are you working on now? A. My new novel is a kind of fantasy, set in the time when the Poles stopped being hunters and began to work the fields, some time before they ac- cepted Christianity. It's called The King of the Fields. I call ita fantasy because there's very little historical information about this era, so I've had to use my imagination. But when I read it, I feel that in some way it has the element-or at least the smell-of reality. Q. You're a famous writer. You've won the Nobel Prize. Do you think about whether you'll be read in a hundred years? A. I hope that when people a hundred years from now ask, "What happened to the Polish Jews in the 20th century that is now so far away," someone will answer, "If you read Isaac Singer you may find some clue." Q. Do you think there will be Yiddish readers then? A. I'm not sure. But people -will study Yiddish, just the way they studied Hebrew for centuries after it became a dead language. I've said it so many times: Jews suffer from many sicknesses, but am- nesia is not one of them. Q. What do you think about the future of fiction? A. I will tell you. There is a future both for ex- cellent writers and for very bad writers. There will always be an audienace for good literature and for cheap literature. But the prospect for middlebrow or average fiction looks very dark, because its audience will get more and more of its entertain- ment from films and television and perhaps from media we don't know yet. So when a young writer sits down at his desk today, he should say, either I'm going to write for the best or the worst. He should never try to appeal to the reader who has lit- tle taste and big pretensions, because this reader is going to disappear, I wish. 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