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B Wednesday, January 18, 2012/ The Statement

Wednesday, January 18, 2012 // The Statement7B

from last week: youtube stars
Do you think people should be able to
make money off YouTube videos?

random student interview
by laura argintar/ illustrations by jeff zuschlag


- No

Were you awesome today?

This day and _
every day

--Not enoug
Busy vloggin

Welcome to the Random Student
Interview, where a student's
name is just as interesting as her
Your last name (Nations) is the
plural form, like with an "s" at the
Yeah, like the United ones.
h So you're a Classical Civ major?
That sounds kind of intense.
What does "Civ" even stand for?
It's Classical Civilizations, like histo-
ry. We basically study ancient Greek
and Roman history.
And what do you hope to do with
Be a curator at a museum. (Laughs)
No, I'm joking - I'm actually pre-law.
Well, I'm really bad with politics,
but that major sounds like it'll
help you learn about democracy.
You would know this better than
I would.
Well, (the United States) got ideas
from Roman laws.

So do you have an internship lined
up for this summer?
Not yet, no. I'm still looking.
What kinds of internships are
open to pre-law people?
Not really anything, because big law
firms don't take summer interns
unless they're in law school. So you
can just hope to get one in Washing-
ton D.C. with some politician, which
is the most likely route students go
with, or you can do stuff in business
because there aren't any prereq-
uisites for law school besides the
The LSAT is so brutal - not like I
would know personally - but my.
roommate took it. As a sopho-
more, have you started thinking
about it?
Well, yes. But I haven't started
thinking about preparation for it.
I'm going abroad in a year, next win-
ter, so probably after that.

Do you speak French?
Yeah, I'm minoring in French.
So that'll help you when you want
to be, like,the French ambassador
or something.
(Laughs) Yeah, exactly.
Do youknow whatkind oflaw you
want to practice?
No, something probably with inter-
national relations, but I'm not posi-
So something vaguely resembling
your name.
(Laughs) I have yet to meet another
"Nations" on this campus.
Well,mylastnameisArgintar,so I
never meet anyone withmyname.
There's actually only eight Argin-
tars in this world.
How do you know that?
My uncle likes to tell me that -
he's a bit odd. You could probably
Google it, though.
________ _ |sear >
Where are you headed to next?
Well, I have every single class except
for one in Mason Hall this year.

Landing a job 'after gradu-
ation is no guarantee. In fact,
the job hunt all seems like a big
toss-up. A recent study done by
Georgetown University's Center
on Education and the Workforce
found that unemployment rates
for recent college graduates was
8.9 percent, with students pos-
sessing degrees in architecture
topping the list at a 13.9 percent
unemployment rate.
So what about those people who
don't have a traditional four-year
college degree? What options are
out there for people with associ-
ate's and GEDs?
Where can one go with
an associate's degree?
Student adviser of employment
services at Washtenaw Communi-
ty College Sandra Worrell said it's
certainly possible for one to have a
well-paying job without obtaining
a bachelor's degree first.
"At WCC, we've got tons of
associate's degrees and certifi-
cates (with which) students can go
out after they graduate and get a
good job," Worrell said.
While she said she was unau-
thorized to.disclose specific names
and information of previous WCC
students, Worrell said she person-
ally knew of several students who
landed jobs in computer or tech-
nology fields right after complet-
ing an associate's degree.
She mentioned a student who'd
gotten a job with a local internet
company and quickly moved up
the ladder.
"(The student has) been work-
ing there for a long time ... and I
think he's a manager now," she
said. "He started out as a techni-
cal support specialist doing trou-
bleshooting over the phone when
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Is college worth it?
Careers are out there for those
without four-year degrees
by Christine Chun

customers call in."
Other students with associ-
ate's degrees got jobs as computer
support specialists, tier-two and
tier-three networking engineers,
support desk technicians and
network administrators, Worrell
Computer and information
technology jobs have annual
salaries ranging from $41,000 to
$72,200, according to the Bureau
of Labor Statistics website.
They also are popular con-
centrations for students at Lan-
sing Community College. James
Woolcock, coordinator of student
employment at LCC, said such
fields tend to be "a bigger draw in
the mid-Michigan area."
"We got a lot of opportunities
for employment as well as intern-
ships or fellowships in (computer
and information technology),"
Woolcock said. "We're seeing a lot
students go into everything from
database administration to pro-
gramming and web design."
A broad spread
But jobs pertaining to comput-
ers or technology aren't the only
options for students, according
to Worrell and Woolcock. Both
advisers listed many other pos-
sible occupations one could have
without spending four years at a
university beforehand.
Among the other jobs Wor-
rell mentioned were positions
in nursing, web design, welding,
culinary arts, physical therapy
or technician posts in pharmacy
and radiology.
"(Students) can all leave here
and get a job right away with-
out a four-year degree," Worrell
Woolcock added that General

Motors is also recruiting students
to go into manufacturing.
"We're seeing the manufactur-
ing sector pick up here with GM,"
Woolcock said. "They're starting
to hire, bring people (from LCC)."
How important is
a bachelor's degree?
BLS statistics suggest that hav-
ing a bachelor's degree is more
advantageous for employment.
According to a BLS Jan. 6 eco-
nomic news release, the unem-
ployment rate for all individuals
with "some college or associate's
degree" is 7.9, whereas for those
with "bachelor's degree and high-
er," the rate is 4.6.
Despite the statistics, Worrell
and Woolcock said people with
associate's degrees and certifi-
cate holders can still land a good
job and earn a decent salary. So is
a bachelor's even worth the time

and effort?
Woolcock and Lynne Sebille-
White, senior assistant director of
employer relations at the Univer-
sity of Michigan; said they think
students should pursue bachelor's
Though Woolcock acknowl-
edged that many past LCC stu-
dents were able to earn a good
salary with their associate's
degrees, he stressed the benefits
of having a bachelor's degree.
"There are a number of stu-
dents who can make as good of a
way, (but) just not more so, than
somebody in a bachelor-degree
field," Woolcock said.
According to Woolcock, LCC
encourages students to pursue
higher education, even though it's
common for students to get hired
with just a two-year degree.
"Certainly, over one's lifetime,
they're going to have more earn-
ing potential with a higher-level

degree," he said. "We're always
encouraging people to think about
that (idea) and the lifelong learn-
ing benefits that come with a high-
er degree."
In a similar way, Sebille-White
explained that while for some
jobs, a bachelor's would not be as
useful, having the degree is ben-
eficial in most cases.
"I think a lot of it is definitely
industry specific," Sebille-White
said. "Certainly, for someone
who wants to be an electrician or
plumber, a bachelor's degree isn't
going to help them, and they can
probably still make a good living
(without it)."
But she said in today's world,
employees are more frequently
requiring advanced degrees.
"There are fewer of the higher-
paying opportunities that would
be available to somebody who
doesn't have at least a bachelor's

- t

Where do you want to go abroad? That could be good or bad,. At
Paris. I've been there before, but not least you get to go through the
nearly long enough. Diag all the time and see what's

. '

But I don't get a change of scene,
which I would enjoy. I wish I had
classes at the new Natural Science
building or Pierpont Commons.
But being pre-law and a French
minor you're probably going to
be stuck with alot of classes inthe
Mason/Angell Hall cave anyway.
- Nations is an LSA sophomore.

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