0I 8A - The Michigan Daily - Thursday, September 30, 2004 NEWS Lack of marriage counseling would delay official licenses . LANSING (AP) - Couples would be encouraged to receive premari- tal education and those with children required to take a class when divorcing under legislation approved yesterday by the state Senate. The bills would grant couples a mar- riage license after three days - the current waiting time - if they get coun- seling. If they refuse, they would have to wait 28 days for the license. The Senate passed the premarital counseling bill 23 to 14, mostly along party lines, despite objections from Democrats and some Republicans who said it would intrude into people's lives. The legislation went to the state House, which isn't expected to send the package to Democratic Gov. Jennifer Granholm until representatives return to Lansing after the Nov. 2 election. Granholm spokeswoman Mary Det- tloff said the administration agrees with only a small part of the 13-bill package, including a bill that would allow retired clergy to provide counseling to troubled families. But the governor has concerns with most of the other pieces. "She's not on board with the major- ity of the package. She feels it's way too invasive and goes beyond where govern- ment needs to go," Dettloff said. Supporters said the bills aim to strengthen marriage and, in case of divorce, lessen its negative effects on children. Twenty Republicans and three Dem- ocrats - Virg Bernero of Lansing, Dennis Olshove of Warren and Mark Schauer of Battle Creek - voted for the bill. Twelve Democrats and two Republicans - Beverly Hammerstrom of Temperance and Shirley Johnson of Royal Oak - opposed it. Sen. Jim Bar- cia (D-Bay City) was absent. One bill. passed 22 to 12, would require divorcing couples with children to complete a divorce effects program and complete a questionnaire. There's an exception for victims of domestic violence. Another bill would give up to a $50 tax credit to couples who receiveW premarital education. Republicans said studies show divorce hurts society as a whole and makes children more likely to end up in jail and struggle in school. Tax- payers are left footing the bill for child support enforcement, support- ers said. To ih~ HITN SAFR Lf UEE OETONBto igt SLE APRBills would ban public display* of Socia SeCuny dgts Top right: CHRISTINE STAFFORD Left: EUGENE ROBERTSON Bottom right: ASHLEY HARPER TOP RIGHT: Michael Moore addresses Hill Auditorium last night. LEFT, BOTTOM RIGHT: Students protest Moore. 'We are hated wear desisd:' tMoor bashes Bush policyat Hi MOORE Continued from page 1A ardice," in reference to Max Cleland - a disabled Vietnam veteran in the U.S. Senate - and "if Kerry really loved his country, he would have died in Vietnam ... vote Bush." Going back to the issue of mantras, Michael Moore proposed some possible phrases for Kerry to pull out during the debate tonight. Some of the highlights were "Where's Osama," "Two quag- mires down, one to go" and "George W. Bush, the ATM machine for the rich." Moore also made sure to address the issue of Kerry's "flip-flopping." He did not, at first, comment on whether Kerry has flip-flopped on the issues, but instead pointed out the many changes in opinion of Bush's administration on Saddam Hus- sein. He laughed as he went through his version of United States history with Sad- dam: first supplying him, then disliking him, then deciding to let him be. Clinton was told to go after him, but refused, and then Bush went to war. Finally, addressing Kerry's choices over the past years directly, Moore pro- claimed that Kerry should answer that he was simply supporting the Presi- dent. Moore suggests Kerry answer the attacks with, "I believed in you. I sup- ported you, and you let us down." The atmosphere at Hill took on a more somber tone when Moore started read- ing some of the e-mails he has received from soldiers in Iraq. He explained how he has received more than 3,000 e-mails from soldiers, and then asked, "When have we heard from soldiers who are dissatisfied with the war?" Following the soldiers' letters, Moore showed clips from "Fahrenheit 9-11," that put a human face on the Iraqi peo- ple. Some clips showed men and women shopping in markets. Other clips showed children playing together at home and in the park, flying kites and enjoying rides at a carnival. Between the letters and the movie clips, Moore humanized the war in Iraq. Those scenes have been criticized, notably by Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) at the Republican National Convention, for portraying Iraq under the harsh rule of Saddam as a peaceful place. "We are hated, we are despised, we are less safe," Moore said, inciting cheers and applause from the audience. "George W. Bush has made us less safe in this world." Moore made it clear that the war on ter- ror, or in his words, "the war on a noun," is not making the world a safer place, but serving as a training ground for more terrorists. "You do not liberate a people with the barrel of a gun," Moore said. Moore wrapped up the evening with a question and answer session. One of the highlights came when someone asked him what he thought of Ralph Nader. Moore calmly replied that he likes Ralph and thinks he is a good guy, but that people did not want him to run in this election. For the last question, Moore asked to hear from a Republican. The man who responded asked what disenfranchised Republicans should do when they do not and cannot support Kerry. After a conversation, the man agreed that he had liberal views on many issues, leading Moore to bring the prob- lem down to the issue of money; "When you have a country where everyone feels included and is included, and has a fair and equal shot at things, you have a bet- ter, more productive country that will make more money for people like you." LANSING (AP) - A large package of bills aimed at preventing and crack- ing down on those who use others' iden- tity to rack up bad debt won approval yesterday from the state House. The two main bills in the 19-bill package would make it a crime to steal someone's identity and would prohibit Social Security numbers from being publicly displayed on a receipt or mailing. The House unanimously voted to send each of the bills to the Senate. The legislation also would pro- hibit Social Security numbers from being displayed on items such as medical insurance cards. Social Security numbers could only be used as an internal account number under the bills. State Rep. William Van Regenmort- er, who handled the bills as chairman of the House Criminal Justice Commit- tee, said the legislation marks the first less of whether they have jurisdiction where the crime was committed or where the victim lives. "Here are great- er protections and more investigative authority to law enforcement," Van Regenmorter (R- Hudsonville) said about the bills. Victims of iden- "These are all things that are crucial in the aftermath of a criminal event. - Rep. Dave Robertson (R-Grand Blanc) time the state would regulate the use of Social Security numbers. The package also makes it easier to prosecute identity theft by allowing prosecutors to go after offenders regard- bilitate their damaged credit. "These are all things that are crucial in the aftermath of a criminal event," said Rep. Dave Robertson, a Grand Blanc Republican who introduced the. bill defining iden tity theft. Brian Imus. state director of the nonpartisan advocacy orga- nization Public Interest Research Group in Michi- gan, said the bills will better protect people's identity.* But more needs to. be done, he said. He pointed out tity theft would get greater protections under the legislation because the pack- age would allow them to obtain a police report to help clear their name and reha- that the bills continue to allow a company to give a customer's Social Security number to a third party under certain circumstances. . The UM OCF proudly presents ..."listening for a calling in life" FEATURING NATIONALLY RENOWNED AUTHOR AND ACCLAIMED COMMENTATOR FREDERICA MATHEWES-GREEN! TODAY! TOMORROW! Thursday, Sept. 30 Friday, Oct. 1 8:00-10:00 P.M. 8:00-10:00 P.M. 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