12A - The Michigan Daily - - Thursday, September 7, 2000 ARTS Producer King talks about why 'Sex and the City' sells The Los Angeles Times Michael Patrick King's job is enough to make a mother proud. Froud and a little red-faced. King is he executive producer of the saucy BO hit comedy series "Sex and tihe City," but he's also the product if an Irish Catholic family that never discussed sex, he says. Now King's mother, a former manager of a Krispy Kreme Dough- nut shop in Scranton, Pa., finds her- $elf having previously unimaginable graphic conversations with her show-business son. "Her love of me is only slightly bigger than her hame (over) the idea of the show," King says. Nominated for an Emmy as best comedy series for the second time in three seasons, "Sex and the City," created by Darren Star and based on the urban tales of former New York Observer columnist Candace Bush- nell, has become a water-cooler dhow for women (assuming, that is, that women hang out at water cool- rs). The series stars Sarah Jessica Parker as relationship columnist Carrie and co-stars Cynthia Nixon, Kim Cattrall and Kristin Davis as Carrie'S upscale gal pals; like cul- tural anthropologists working on one long research project, the women sample various men and then convene for lunch, at which the ribald conversation is conducted at "McLaughlin Group"-like speed. This season, "Sex and the City" has grown out of its surface con- ceits; the plots have thickened (Car- rie finds a dream guy, then ruins things by taking up with Mr. Big, a former flame); and the show, whose four femmes were featured on the cover of Time, has become some- thing of a rarity, a sitcom people talk about. You don't have to spend much time with King to hear the show's voice - that crackle and pop about relationships and Prada products, the frank talk about sex that makes the show empowering to some and merely a collection of crass, femi- nized jokes to others (in addition to Courtesy 0fHBO The sassy and sex-driven ladies of HBO's hit "Sex and the City." t._.._ King and Star, the show's small writing staff this season' included Jenny Bicks and Cindy Chupack). With creator and fellow executive producer Star nurturing two other shows into existence (the WB com- edy "Grosse Pointe" and the Fox drama "The Street"), King has been busy, having written six episodes this season and directed two others. His success didn't happen overnight. King arrived in New York two decades ago as an aspiring actor, became a playwright and a stand-up comic, dabbled in improv, eventually moved to Los Angeles to write for television and came out as a gay man, got jobs on "Murphy Brown" and "Cybill," created the very short-lived sitcom "Temporari- ly Yours," and consulted on the first season of the NBC sitcom "Will & Grace" (the quick-witted King worked during tapings, punching up scenes on the fly). King, 41, who also has a deal with HBO to create a show of his own, was in Los Angeles recently to shoot two "Sex and the City" episodes with guest appearances by Carrie Fisher, Matthew McConaughey, Vince Vaughn and Sarah Michelle Gellar. Question: The way the women on the show talk about sex strikes some as offensive or unrealistic. If nothing else, "Sex and the City" has touched off a debate: Do women really talk like this? Some point to you and Darren Star and say the show is really a gay man's view of sex and relationships, your sensibil- ities filtered through four women. Answer: I've heard that. Occa- sionally I've heard it from writers. ... What I hear from women is, "This is real. This is my girlfriends and me." ... I also write Mr. Big. I also write Steve the bartender. I don't hear people saying Mr. Big is a character written by gay guys. It's just a thing to say. There's an outrageousness to (the show). But I don't know necessarily if that's a gay outrageousness, or just an outrageousness.... Maybe the gay profile is something that's on the edge, so that's what people are perceiving as gay. I don't know. I mean, I'm writing four characters. ... You can get four straight people to write this show badly, or you can get four gay guys to write it worse. It's not about, "Oh, Michael Patrick King is a gay writer." It's about, "Somehow he understands the dynamic of these four charac- ters." When it works. I mean, believe me, if this show is the right show for me to write, it's not because I'm gay. It's because I understand something about emo- tions. Q: So the show is about more than four women sleeping around and being in control of who they do it with and when? A: It's about what sex does to people, in terms of exposing them. And the episodes where people don't have sex, which you'll see a lot of, (are) about what that means. And the fun thing about this show is that we're able to actually go into the world of sex, and not in a bull- shit way. In a funny way. ... That's the selling piece of the show, that you're maybe going to see some- thing about sex, but I defy you to find one scene in our show that's about you getting turned on when you're watching it. There's not one sexual scene in our show. Q: Wait a minute. There are lots of sex scenes. Kim Cattrall has sex practically every week. A: What sex scenes? They're all about the girls getting a huge cream pie at the end. There's not one sin- gle nudity scene in our show that doesn't have a laugh attached. Q: Single people like to complain that it's hard to meet people. But that's not something the women on "Sex and the City" struggle with. A: What our show says is it's so hard to meet someone who's not crazy or (messed) up. I mean, that's the fun of it. Even if you have a Versace wardrobe and you're a star and you look like a million bucks, it's really hard to meet a guy. Kim Cattrall can't meet a guy. That says a lot about how hard it is to meet a guy for women who are not Kim Cattrall.... To me it's just about, what kind of obstacles can we put in front of these women to bring up the stuff that everybody feels emotionally in life'? What kind of guy can we put in front of Miranda to work out the fact that she's judgmental, bitter and shut down? ... Of course, everyone knows that no one has that much sex. But it's an adventure. It's "Alice in Wonder- land." Q: If the show wins the Emmy Courtesy of HBO Sarah Jessica Parker as Carrie. this year as best comedy series, I suspect there will be grumbling (that) HBO, with its fewer content* restrictions, gives you guys an unfair advantage over broadcast, network competition. A "Will and Grace" is hilarious. And they just don't say (expletive). They say dirtier stuff. ... They just are clever (about it). If we do win the Emmy it's not about because we can (swear), it's that people are rec- ognizing that there's something unique here. It's really about doing something a new way, or a way that seems more like real life. Q: Do you think audiences have, grown weary of conventional sit- coms? Or are we just between hits? And do you agree with many writ- ers that the development process is. stifling good work ? A: When I was on "Murphy" Brown," everybody had an individ- ual voice. That was sort of the way* (executive producer) Diane (Eng- lish) did it. She hired writers that. she thought were interestingly indi4 vidual, and then she sat at the head of the table and took the best of everybody's voice. It was never about a room voice. It was about individual voices, and therefore everyone who came off that show when I was there became an indi- vidual writer. People would say, "Let's get Peter d . Let's get Tom Palmer." And 'AheiI-we went through a phase, right aund "Muist Sk V" - and I' not talking abo"rideh" b then, it became," ogan put an t igathat block."-And th iiiebody started finking, u don't need vicsy s uj need product. And it reall d matter who writes it; just get it U Andnow everyone's really sick the product, and there's no voice-4 so people like ("Malcolm in the Middle" creator) Linwood Boomer, the voices are coming back. ... t a I° a R 4 n. $ s THE BIGGES C0'ces T BACK TO SCHOOL 'ER. SALmE Courtesy of HBO Mr. Big (Chris Noth) is a former flame of Carrie's and a recurring character. . 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