8A - The Michigan Daily - Monday, April 10, 2000 ARTS MORRIS Continued from Page 5A of a script, they see a simultaneous camera image of Morris talking to tem. Facing Morris is the same set up - a camera behind the picture of the subject that the other camera is shoot- ing. This allows Morris' subjects to look directly into the lens and to look into his eyes at the same time, thus avoiding the subject's eyes looking to the side of the camera where the inter- viewer normally sits. I'm still sort of learning about the Interatron. I do see a difference bctween my interviews now and those I .did before I began using it," Morris said. "The Interatron is something that no one else uses. It's so different and quite interesting." In the film, Morris shows a small anecdote where Leuchter fixes up the electric chair for the state of Ten- nessee. Leuchter explains that the chair is haunted by the spirits of some of the men who were killed in it and proudly shows as proof a photograph he took of the chair in which ghostly forms seem to writhe in agony. "The ghost becomes really interest- ing to me - that's why I included it. It becomes a metaphor for the whole problem of the film - or at least the central question of the film. Namely who is Fred?" Morris said. "I look at that photograph," Morris said, "and see this hand rising and this face contorted (maybe two faces are contorted - I see one; Fred sees many), and I look at the photograph and say, 'Ah, a doctored photograph, a double exposure of some kind.' "But if that's the case, who pro- duced the double exposure? Fred? Is he lying and just pretending that he doesn't know? Or did he do it himself and then somehow forget that he had done it - just wishful thinking that it might be real or he might be able to sell it. Or was it done by his associate, and he just wanted to buy into the bullshit? What's going on? "It troubles me," Morris continued, "because it raises exactly the same questions that are raised about his his feelings on humanity in general. "I think the mind is a very mixed up place," he said. "We like to think it's in one state or another, like lying or telling the truth - well, lying and telling the truth are pretty clear notions. But whether you know that we're lying or telling the truth is much less clear. "I imagine us - Leuchter and the rest of us -- as being like a deck of cards with a lot of things going on at once. Layers. Part of us play acting, part of us sincere, part of us disingenu- ous, part of us for real, part of us involved knowingly in what we're doing, other parts being unwitting actors in some kind of dimly perceived play. I think it's a mess,"said Morris. "I think you can ask two kinds of questions," Morris continued, "Is what Fred has done, is it bad? Is it even per- nicious? And the answer is, unequivo- cally, yes. This is bad stuff. Going to Auschwitz and desecrating the place illegally, chipping brick and mortar from the ruins of Birkenau, is this bad? Yes. Is appearing at Holocaust revisionist conferences or at neo-Nazi rallies in Europe bad? Yes. Very, very; very bad. "Then the next kind of question, is Fred a bad man'? Is he evil? That's trickier. I would also say to that cs. But I would say also that he's a nian not devoid of our sympathy. Perhaps not of our approval -and I would say definitely not of our approval because I disapprove of him. "But there's something so sad, so deeply disturbing about the story. Do people knowingly commit evil or do they do really rotten things somehow thinking that they're heroes? This is a guy who, it's clear. wants to see him- self as deeply heroic:" Morris said. Morris clearly gets deeply involved in his work. He summed up "Mr. Death" in a few words: "The film 'Schindler's List' has the rathof uninteresting thesis that anybody can be a hero. 'Mr. Death' has the thes that anybody can think they're a hero, anybody can write their own story in their own mind to construe themselves as heroic." Photo courtesy of Lion's Gate Director extraordinaire Errol Morris returns to the earth for grounding inspiration. Holocaust denial. Does he know what he's doing? Is he doing it out of some sort of cynical desire to manipulate people? Is he's a real bad guy pulling the strings or is he some sort of inno- cent dupe, some fall guy, sone moron or moral imbecile who stumbled into a Nazi camp and bought into the lying without thinking about what he was doing? That is the question. And that same question arises in that photo- graph," Morris said. 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