Page 2-The Michigan Daily- Tuesday, October 20, 1992

Alternative party presidential debate
addresses similar mainstream issues

by David Wartowski
EAST LANSING - Two alter-
native candidates confronted familiar
issues in a debate preceding last
night's presidential debate in East
Lansing.
U.S. Taxpayer's Party candidate
Howard Phillips and Natural Law
Party candidate Dr. John Hagelin
both agreed neither candidates Bill
Clinton, George Bush, nor Ross
Perot offer viable solutions to
America's problems.
"We've heard a lot in the main
presidential debates, about problems,
but we haven't heard a lot about so-
lutions," Hagelin said.
Solutions lie in implementing
programs based on new ideas taken
from acientific knowledge, Hagelin
said.
"We're living in a scientific age.
... It is on the basis of new knowl-
edge and a new cost-effective solu-
tion that allows our government to
balance the budget and cut taxes," he
said.

Among the programs Hagelin has
proposed are courses that would act
as a preventive measure by teaching
health care, fitness, nutrition, and
stress management - including
transcendental meditation.
Phillips rebutted that science will
not solve any of the country's prob-
lems.
"Just because a program has been
tested at Harvard, that doesn't mean
it's going to work," said Phillips, a
Harvard graduate himself.
Solutions lie in reducing gov-
ernment intervention, Phillips said.
"Government is the cause of the
problem, not the solution."
Choices should be left to the
people, Phillips said, citing health
care as an example of American
people taking care of themselves
without government intervention.
"Despite what Ross Perot has
said, the U.S. does have the finest
system of medical care in the world.
... I think it would be a tragedy to
destroy that system by increasing

government control instead of reduc-
ing it," Phillips said. He added that
doctors are doing a fine job of pro-
viding health care to the poor on
their own.
Hagelin disagreed, saying the
medical system needs reform
through his proposed preventative
measures. These same measures, he
said, would in turn reduce crime
through stress prevention.
Phillips, argued that crime would
only be reduced through capital
punishment.
Ross Perot, Jr. said the efforts of
the two parties are admirable, but
weak, efforts that will receive help
from the success of his father, inde-
pendent presidential candidate Ross
Perot.
"Perot will help because he gives
encouragement to the third party
candidates ... but they don't have the
finance, the credibility, or the power
of the American people," he said.

Supporters of President George Bush applaud as they watch last night's Presidential debate at the Lansing Civic Center.


BUSH
Continued from page 1
mestic policy and what the people
need."
But the most exciting event of
the day - the debate celebration -
was yet to come.
The College Republicans headed
over to the Lansing Civic Arena to
watch the debate with an exuberant
crowd of more than 6,000 sup-
porters from all over the state.
"I was very impressed with the
rally because it showed the enor-
mous support that Bush carries in
Michigan," said LSA junior Shawn
Brown. "I'm having a great time
and I am so glad I came tonight."
The arena was decked with
Bush-Quayle signs, a big screen TV
and live entertainment. Throughout
the debate, the crowd went wild in
reaction to Bush's one-liners, in-

cluding his reference to the bumper
sticker reading, "Annoy the media.
Elect George Bush."
The atmosphere was often like
that of a sporting event; when
Clinton walked on stage, boos re-
sounded through the auditorium.
At the conclusion of the debate,
the president strutted in to drive
home his theme for the remaining
two weeks of the campaign.
He promised supporters that he
is going to "out-hustle and out-
work Clinton" in the final stretch of
the race.
"I believe that tonight at this
rally, at the first post-debate event,
we are starting a movement and we
are going to close this thing," Bush
said.
He told the crowd that he never
lost confidence that he would win
the election, and last night's debate
made him certain.

PEROT
Continued from page 1
People attending the rally said
they were enthusiastic about Perot's
reentry into the race and chances in
the November election.
"I believe he is concerned enough
to reach the American people. I ap-
plaud the man for doing what he is
doing. I believe in him most
strongly," said Westland, Mich.
res\ident Dale Wofford.
Some Perot supporters said that
he is the only candidate who will
preserve the quality of life for future
generations.
"He is the only who tells me that
he is going to take care of my 15
grandchildren," said Don Turner, a
Perot supporter.
Elizabeth Williams, a member of
United We Stand, lauded Perot's
leadership abilities.
"There is no question about it.
Perot has a love for the people. I've
been waiting for a brilliant, electrify-
ing knowledgeable man to run the
country," she said.
"I voted for Bush 15 years ago
and I wouldn't consider this now. He
has been a total disappointment. This
country has no focus. All we have is
doom and gloom. We need a new
leader," she said.
-read them Daily

DEBATE
Continued from page 1
He continued to court the middle-
class vote. "The middle class is
working harder than they have ever
before and they're paying more
taxes," Clinton said.
Bush charged Clinton's "invest
and grow" economic program as an
example of Democratic "tax and
spend" economics. He told the
American public to "Watch your
wallets!" and warned that a
Democratic president and a
Democratic congress would bring
back the 15-percent inflation and 21-
percent interest rates of the Carter
administration.
He called for a balance budget
amendment, line item veto and 10-

percent check-off on income tax
forms to go to pay off the debt.
"That's the only protection the tax-
payers have against these pork-ii el
programs," Bush said.
Perot said the trade deficit is the
center of the economic problems.
"What you hear is the giant sucking
sound of jobs being pulled out of
this country right at the time we
need the tax base to pay the debt and
to pay down the interest on the debt
and to get our house back in order,"
Perot said.
The Texas billionaire said he was
the most qualified to lead the coun-
try out of its economic troubles be-
cause of his experience in business.
He blamed both major party candi-
dates for failing to adequately

addressing the economy.
He called for a shared sacrifice
plan which would balance the budget
in six years. "There's only one way
out of this and that's to stop the de-
terioration of the job base," Perot
said.
Clinton said, "The person re-
sponsible for the domestic economy
is Bill Clinton."
Bush responded, "That's what
worries me - that he'll do for
America what he's done for
Arkansas."
Perot said he has stepped to the
aid of his country when called and
that he was continuing his service in
his run for the presidency. "I'm here
tonight folks. I've never stopped
supporting you," Perot said.

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RALLY
Continued from page 1
Kennedy spoke on the steps of
the Michigan Union in 1960,
Clinton said, and proposed the
Peace Corps for young Americans
who wanted to gain a experience
and help people in other countries.
"Today I want to create a peace
corps here at home and open the
doors to a college education for all
Americans," he said.;
"I do not want you to be a part
of the first generation of Americans
to do worse than your parents ...
and the cost of a college education
is one of the few things that has
raised more than the cost of health
care."
Crowds applauded Clinton's

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proposal for a service trust fund that
would enable students to pay for
college by working for their com-
munity after graduation.
"If every person in Michigan
went to college and then went home
to serve the country, we could solve
the problems from the grass roots
up, and we could rebuild America
together."
Several state and local
Democrats - including former
Gov. Jim Blanchard and Sens. Carl
Levin and Don Riegle- also ad-
dressed the screaming crowd and
drew connections between Bill
Clinton, a young presidential
Democratic candidate, and
Kennedy.
Some students started gathering
in front of Rackham as early as 5
p.m. and all had to huddle together
to stay warm, but most said that al-
though Clinton spoke very briefly,
his speech was worth the wait.
"I think it's the most realistic

and optimistic message anyone has
delivered since Kennedy," LSA
first-year student Matt Thorburn
said.
First-year law student Gina
Roccanova agreed. "We love him,
we want him to be president. He's
going to give us jobs," she said.
LSA first-year student Jeremy
Rochester, a member of the College
Democrats, said he was encouraged
by the number of students who gave
up studying to hear Clinton speak.
"People are aware," he said.
"They're willing to put forth an ex-
tra effort rather than just sitting in
the dorm, watching T.V."
Sarah Thomsen, a graduate stu-
dent in the School of Public Health
said she is also impressed by the
level of student activism.
"I've never seen such student
mobilization," she said. "People
have a sense that we can really do it
this time. We can really make a
change."

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