The Michigan Daily- Sports Monday - March 30, 1992 - Page 3 Finkel Michigan graduate talks of life in TV sports production world Jeff Sheran George Finkel has been at the top of his field for years. Following his 1958 graduation from the University of Michigan, Finkel em- barked on a career of television pro- duction. Since that time, he has pro- duced - among other events - seven Super Bowls, six World Series, two Stanley Cups, six NCAA basket- ball Final Fours, six Orange Bowls, and the 1988 Olympic Games. In his nineteen years at NBC, Finkel has produced more network 0baseball games than anyone else. He has garnered three Emmy awards for his work -for the 1982 World Series, 1988 Seoul Olympics, and the only Emmy ever won for a Super Bowl - for Super Bowl XIII. Recently, Daily Sports Writer Brett Forrest spoke with Finkel about his illustrious career. Daily: How did you ever get into television? Finkel: Well, I graduated in radio and TV - speech - from Michigan. I had wanted to be in television. I had played sports. I was all-fraternity at Michigan, playing football, as a matter of fact. D: How did you end up behind the camera as a producer? F: The funny part was, my first television job was working for Playboy Magazine in Chicago, not in television - although I ended up syndicating their TV show. I got out in '58 and there weren't many jobs around at that point. The first job I got, which was in '60, in television, was as an announcer/director out in Rockford, Illinois. So I got into both sides. The more I got into it, the more I felt I was much better in production than I was in front of the camera. So, I drifted in that direction. I did station management, like production man- ager and what not. And when I put Channel 17 (WPHL) on the air here inPhilly in '65, I became Director of Sports Operations and did a lot of sports because the station had all the Palestra games (Big 5 college bas- ketball), plus the 76ers. We used to do Temple football live. So I really got into sports. D: Did you ever meet Hugh Hefner while you were working for Playboy? F: Yes, as a matter of fact, one time we were both dating the same girl. He won. But I knew Hef. I mean, when I was there, it was a pretty small organization. D: Was he a good guy? F: Well, he went through a very big change while I was there. He went from drinking Cokes and wearing V-neck sweaters and white socks to wearing tweeds and driving the Mercedes, and the pipe, and ev- orything else. That was the image. D: After Channel 17, did you start working at NBC in New York? F: In 71 I walked in' off the street. Somebody gave me Scotty tonnel's (former Executive Producer for NBC Sports) name. I 4idn't know him from the man on the moon. I called, made an ap- pointment with him, and went into see him before the '71 football sea- son. And he hired me as a free- lancer to do the football season that year. Back then it was still a twelve- game season in the NFL - I can remember when he said: "Now don't look at this as something permanent. You're gonna do a few games this season, and that's it." Well, I did ten of the twelve games and the Senior Bowl in the post-season. At that point, the only college basketball was the tournament. I did one of the early-round games - they only did three weeks of the tournament back then. And then, when baseball season came around, the '72 baseball sea- son, two of us did almost every backup game, and at that point NBC had the Saturday afternoon and Monday night games. And so we were doing two games a week and pretty much living on the road most of the time. That's when I really got into the swing. At the end of the '72 season I did the League Championship Series (LCS). I started out with the Pittsburgh-Cincinnati series, which opened up in Pittsburgh. Then I went to Detroit and did the last three games of the Oakland-Tigers series. We. got them when they had come back to Detroit after Campaneris had thrown the bat and all that crazy stuff had gone on. D: So had NBC hired you full- time by then? F: Well, it just kept building. I did all the baseball. They got hockey and I produced the last two years hockey was on the network - the game of the week with Peter Puck. And it just kept building. I was do- ing the LCS's all those years. Then, strangely, somebody got drunk at a Christmas party and told somebody If there's a perfect sport for television, it's football. The ball is big. There are a lot of individual stories you can do. They stop after every bit of action to let you talk about it and show it again. else off, and I walked in assuming I was doing the East-West Shrine game. I had been out on the coast to do a football game. I came back be- cause I had some meetings for hockey. I left a suitcase on the West coast in San Francisco because we were going back to shoot the players in the lineup in different places around San Francisco. I walk in the office that morning for the hockey meeting and they said "Oh we're going to change your as- signment. You're doing the Super Bowl." That was Super Bowl IX. Somebody finally retrieved my suit- case a couple of weeks later. D: What is your favorite sport to produce? F: That's a hard question. If there's a perfect sport for television, it's football. The ball is big. There are a lot of individual stories you can do. They stop after every bit of ac- tion to let you talk about it and show it again. Baseball is very difficult because things happen in so many different places. CBS cannot keep losing $100 million on baseball. I think the time has come when there are going to have to be some changes with these rights fees. I don't think they can go on like this forever. Some of the greatest thrills I've had have been in the World Series - the '86 World Series, them '82 one. In '84 I was scared to death that the whole city of Detroit was going to blow up, which it came close to doing. Baseball is a fascinating sport in television because there are so many things that can be done, and must be done, and there are so many places to shore up holes. Hockey is frustrating, and bas- ketball is the same way, because there are so many things you get that you don't ever get a chance to show. There are no whistles. D: This is the worst financial time television has ever seen. Is it justifiable to be paying so much for rights fees? What is the future in that respect, now that more restraints might be put on spending? F: I wish I knew what the future was. I don't think the rights can keep going in the direction they are going. I think you are seeing that now in football where they are asking for paybacks and re-negotiations. In baseball they asked for some money back. They didn't get it. CBS cannot keep losing $100 million on baseball. I think the time has come when there are going to have to be some changes with these rights fees. I don't think they can go on like this forever. You are going to get a lot of resistance to pay-per- view on a steady basis, saying that's the way to solve it. These things that have been free forever - the Super Bowl and World Series - are sud- denly going to be on pay and that's where they're going to get their money. I don't think Congress is going to let them do that. They're doing it in boxing. But in boxing, nobody really cares. Boxing has gone through an- other one of its ups and downs. There are so many bad things in- volved with the sport that I don't think anybody is all that upset that there is not a lot of boxing on free TV. It's a limited audience. That's one area where it is not a monumen- tal problem. It's not going to get a lot of hue and cry. I think if you try and do that for other sports, you are going to have problems. I don't think the rights payments can keep going the direc- tion they are. Where the answer is, God only knows. They can't keep paying $27 million contracts, not if they start pulling back the dollars from television. The fans are not going to pay $100 a ticket to sit in the bleachers. D: Who are your favorite and least-favorite television personali- ties? F: I would say the man from Michigan, with whom I worked on many things, (Dick) Enberg is cer- tainly one of my favorite analysts who I have worked with. The two Maguires, Paul and Al, certainly have been pleasures. Both are a little crazy but that makes it fun some- times. Enberg is just the ultimate pro. Dick went to Central. He's from a town near Flint. He is just a plea- sure to work with. The worst, I don't know. I hate to throw barbs at somebody like Cosell. He did a lot for the journal- ism of sports. I never worked with him. Strangely, in the mid-eighties, suddenly Howard became very friendly to me. I don't quite know why. He was doing the LCS in Detroit when I was doing the World Series following it. We were next door in the hotel during the LCS. All of a sudden Howard was my best friend. I just thought Howard tried to be bigger than life. I thought, at times, he tried to create the story as op- posed to reporting it. I think journalism is certainly an important part of what we do. I am a firm believer that there is more to doing a game than just what's be- tween the lines. I think there are sto- ries on the fringes that need telling. Particularly in professional sports when you are doing a Game of the Week, you are telling a story of the sport, not just the specific game. When there are drug things going on, even though it may not be di- rectly your game, it's still a story you need to relate to. When there are clubhouse problems and manager firings I think these are all stories that when you are doing a Game of the Week, you don't just bury them and just go with ball three, strike two, or first and ten. I think you need to stay with the journalism, but I think at times, you can go overboard. I thought at times, Howard went overboard. I'm all for standing up for what you believe. I thought at times, Howard did it just for effect. I don't necessarily agree with that ei- ther. He did a great deal to push sports into more than just first and ten. There is no question that he was the first big journalist in sports. But, you can go too far at times too. I thought he did. D: What is the fondest memory of your career so far? F: One of the greatest memories I have is when I walked onto the field at Tiger Stadium. Having gone there as a kid and then working the '72 league championship was one of the big moments. All of a sudden you can just walk out on all that grass and you are allowed to do it. It was great feeling. Don't expect much from athletic heroes Just when the smoke is clearing from the Mike Tyson rape case, the State of Florida is deciding whether or not to file rape charges against New York Mets Daryl Boston, Dwight Gooden, and Vince Coleman. In addition, Mets pitcher David Cone faces a lawsuit filed by three women who claim Cone masturbated in front of them in the Shea Stadium bullpen. Incidents like these, in which celebrities face allegations of sexually deviant behavior, dishearten the public. Last weekend I heard a man say he'd "rather not know about this crap," that it "ruins the game" for him. To this man, whom I did not know well but whose appearance at least categorized him in the mainstream public, I said,"yeah, it's disappoint- ing," and walked away. I was neither referring to the athletes' alleged misconduct nor the medi- a's decision to expose it. I have no problem with people wanting their heroes unscathed; every blemish makes heroes less heroic, and they're difficult to replace. I can even understand people forgiving celebrities more readily than everyday Former heavyweight champion Mike Tyson is led to prison by sheriff's deputies. He will serve six years for rape and deviant conduct criminals; a baseball player, for instance, has given something to the pub- lic - maybe a good mood, maybe a lifetime of memories. It's natural that people are willing to reciprocate this gift with forgiveness. But the acquiescence of wrongdoing, the near encouragement of getting away with as much as possible, is intolerable. To this day, I wonder what people think - not say, but really think -about Tyson's six-year jail sentence. We know what Donald Trump thinks, that Tyson's ability to generate wealth is reason enough to keep him out of jail. And I bet a lot more people believe it's just not right for Tyson to go to jail. These people allow him the latitude in making excuses that they don't allow others. They're the boxing fans who have compassion for the young ex-champ, this powerful man who came from a broken home and a childhood of street violence, but who convict in their minds every hand- cuffed youth they see on the 6 o'clock news being arrested for shoplifting. I'm upset about these incidents, but I can't say I'm disappointed. Dis- appointment requires expectation, and I've learned as a sports fan not to expect anything from athletes outside the realm of athletics. It's not that athletes are less capable of being responsible, decent hu- man beings, but we must avoid the tendency to think they are more capa- ble. Most athletes are strangers. Parents who don't let their children talk to strangers shouldn't let their children make strangers their role models. Sports Illustrated writer Rick Telander makes a frank and long-awaited realization when he writes that athletes are the last people in the world we should make our role models, because the games in which they compete for a living inherently keep them removed from reality. Aa person's profession, not to mention a person's skill at this profes- sion, is not a foolproof indicator of the person's character. We should be no more surprised to see an outfielder in court as we should a sports writer. If a sports writer were to commit a crime, especially a sex crime, the public would demand justice. This demand for justice ought to be the same for an athlete. And if it "ruins the game," for people, then they never understood what the game was all about. Thomas leads Pistons to victory over Spurs, 107-103 Michigan by Dan Linna Daily Sports Writer After his team's perfect run through pool play Friday, Michigan men's volleyball coach Tom Johengen said he cringed when he learned Purdue would be his team's ;irst round opponent. It was this same Boilermaker team that ushered the Wolverines to *0'a disappointing sixth place finish ,three weeks ago at the Big Ten Championships. Purdue had also "iefeated Michigan in their regular season meeting in February. "They are a gritty team with a lot of heart," Johengen said of the Boilermakers. "They were confident even when we were crushing them early." 2 The "crushing" of which *Johengen spoke, occurred when 1Urirhioan i m tpd not tn early 11- spikers si the game, 15-13. Michigan shook off the defeat and came back to take the second game 15-6. The third and deciding game was played in a rally scoring format and the Wolverines looked to be back on track. Unfortunately for Michigan, the Boilermakers were on that same course and derailed the Wolverines, 15-9. "We've tried to talk about it but we haven't come to any conclusion," middle hitter Tim Werner said. "We still have confidence in ourselves. We know we can beat them. It's just been that Purdue has become our stumbling block." The defeat left the Wolverines with a ninth place finish in the 24- team field. Graceland College went on to win the tournament over Mirhicaan CtntP.in twnn a tVS till can't kill Purdue Michigan had earned the number three seed and their match-up with Purdue on Friday by going a perfect 6-0 in pool play versus Tri-State, Ball State, and Ferris State. "It wasn't a real strong pool but we were playing really well," Johengen said. "We played very well against teams we should have beat." The Wolverines were once again without the services of outside hitter Chris Peirce who has a knee injury. Sophomore Justin MacLaurin did not make the trip, neither did senior Keith Baar. While Peirce and MacLaurin are expect to be in action Friday against Western Michigan, Baar is not ex- pected to return this season. "We were missing some key people," Johengen said. "But, I don't want t i no that ac ann ence_ The searching for answers all season, but they are confident they will put things together in time for the Collegiate Club Nationals on April 9. "When we went out there we were still trying to find the balance of sustaining our momentum, Michigan co-captain Rico Latham said. "We were physically ready. We just need to get our mental game together. Once we do that we'll come back roarin' and ready to go at Nationals. "We know we can hang with anybody. It's just a matter of putting it together consistently." Johengen was pleased with his team's play for the weekend and also that of rookie Stan Lee. "Stan has returned to the form we saw earlier in the season," Johengen said. "He had a really strmn week- AUBURN HILLS, Mich. (AP) - Darrell Walker's driving layup with 1:10 left broke a tie and led the Detroit Pistons to a 107-103 victory over the San Antonio Spurs on Sunday. The victory ended Detroit's four- around a Dumars free throw, making it 105-103 with 11 seconds remaining. Dumars was fouled again and made both free throws, completing the scoring. The Pistons led 51-44 at halftm- l k. t enn hi t e nf