The Michigan Daily - Monday, October 1, 1990 - Page 11 Musberger ABC sports anchor speaks out on college athletics, coaches-turned-sportscasters, and life in his business Mike Gill __________________ 8 a A,. Brent Musberger was a broad- caster for CBS Sports for as long as aeny football fans can remember. served as the host of "The NFL Today," as well as the play-by-play announcer for the NCAA Basket- ball Championship, host of the NBA Finals and other popular events. On the eve of this year's college basketball final, Musberger was fired from CBS. However, he has since assumed a job with ABC Sports, and he visited Ann Arbor for &it week's Michigan-UCLA foot- ball game. Daily Sports Editor Emeritus Steven Cohen and Daily Sports Editor Jeff Sheran caught up with Musberger at his hotel., Daily: Your firing from CBS April 1st came as a shock to many people. One reporter even made a connection between your firing and the Berlin Wall coming down. What as the process of finding another b like? Musberger: Getting another job was never a concern. That was the easiest part of the equation, because I knew what my reputation was within the industry with the people that mattered, with the exception of one set of leaders. D: How did you manage to keep the whole situation from being ,own out of proportion? M: I knew it wasn't going to be kept out of the media, so when I met with other networks, we did it in private. When I met with Ted Turner, someone in their organiza- tion leaked it all over the country, and as soon as I walked in I knew it was a set up. I mean, it was in a public luncheon-type setting. If I had my druthers, the whole hiring busi-- ,ss would have been kept quiet. D: Where did the challenge lie in the whole situation, if you were able to handle the media and getting a new job? M: I had two choices. I could have retired - I had made some money at CBS, invested it well. I could easily have gone back to Mon- tana. The other alternative was to go ,ck to work, saddle up and go do it again. I love the business. I love the games, the people, the producers, the directors, and all the athletes, coaches. I mean I have a great rela- tionship with all those people. And I'm not close to retirement age, only fifty years old. And Capitol Cities, which owns ABC, has a tremendous reputation for doing business in an ical manner. It was a chance to go ck to work for a good company, and off you go. D: It seemed resolved pretty quickly. M: Yeah, and it probably could have been quicker. When I went to do the Duke-Vegas (NCAA Cham- pionship) game that night, my brother Todd, who is my agent, was already meeting with ABC. *D: What was that final broadcast like? M: Oh, it was like the Twilight Zone. I mean, you're going to do your last broadcast for a company, when you never fully expected to work for another one. It was weird. I was kind of drifting through. And I didn't get a good game that night; it was a horrendous game. If I had got- ten something like a Michigan-Se- n Hall game, I could have forgot- ten my own situation. D: Did you, and do you generally find it difficult to do your job know- ing that your work will be scruti- nized so carefully by critics the next day? M: I accept it. It's like being a politician almost. In a way, it's like a compliment that people pay that , uch attention. I did not start out wanting to be a broadcaster and a public figure. I did not intend to be in a position where my firing would be on the front cover of all the tabloids in New York. But once you're cast in that role, you have to be a big boy and deal with it. I think you just stand up and say that's the way it is. Probably coming out of journalism school at Northwestern helped a lot. I was not a trained egomaniac out of broadcasting school. D: Do you feel that there has been a decline in the quality of tele- vision sports, despite the greater popularity of networks such as ESPN? M: I agree with that idea. There's two reasons for it, the first being economics. It costs less money to pull down a signal from a satellite and cut up some videotape and get it on the air than it does to go out and actually do a story. The other thing is, and you have to be careful. If you did research into what women watched, my guess is that they are generally less concerned with the in- side of the games than the highlights. D: What, then, do you feel is the state of network sports? M: I don't think the games have ever been covered any better. You've got to be careful with sports broad- casting, because it's very subjective. The real big issue is whether or not the networks can afford to pay the prices they are for the evens. The leagues are now living off that money, and if the networks can't pay that money the next time around, economic decline will set in with the leagues. So the big issue in televi- sion sports has nothing to do with journalism, it has to do with eco- nomics. There is serious doubt that the networks can come anywhere near the figures they posted for the last baseball contract. D: Do you then feel that because that television revenue is already locked into escalating players' salaries, that the networks will be forced to cover only what economics dictate they can? M: Absolutely. Let's take the Canseco deal for instance. The A's are paying him, what, $17 million over four years? That's basically TV money that's due them in four years; it's already committed. Now Canseco isn't coming back for less than that next time, and if the net- works can't put up enough money to keep him satisfied, there's gonna be a major, major falling out between the players and the owners. I know ABC and NBC, both obviously committed to baseball, feel the dol- lars are becoming ridiculous. And it's not just baseball - pro football figures are way up there, so is col- lege basketball. CBS is paying $3 billion for the next few years. That's big time money. D: If the economy declines, and people can no longer afford $120 Nike shoes, what will happen to the television revenues? M: Well, then Nike won't buy the ads. But television contracts are already committed for these con- tracts. It's a little bit like Donald Trump real estate - spend, spend, spend, and wait for it to come back. But if that happens, the money may not come back. It happened in At- lantic City. It's unfortunate that sports has taken this hard money turn. It's no different than any other big business nowadays. There's a little charm to it, but let's say you're a Met fan. You want your team to win, and they're in a tight race. But the most important thing hanging over the Mets' head is whether or not they can come up with enough money to keep Darryl Strawberry in New York next year, and I think there should be more charm to it than that. D: Then it's no coincidence that contract problems and the like appear on the back cover of the sports pages? M: Definitely not. The printed media is far more obsessed with money matters than is the broadcast media. We as broadcasters tend to be in the stratosphere about those is- sues, while the writers who earn far less tend to be upset with guys who earn a lot of money. There's sort of a friction there. D: What about ABC hiring con- troversial personalities such as Jim Valvano? M: I think it's blatantly unfair that there is a controversy. It seems to me that he paid the price for the N.C. State incidents. We don't have to put a scarlet letter on his forehead. If Bobby Knight suddenly retired from coaching, do you know how many offers he'd have to be an ana- lyst? Now here's a guy who threw chairs, who pulled his team off the floor, who's unbelievably profane. Why are suddenly all the moralists saying 'My God, the world is bad because Jim Valvano's gonna ana- lyze a basketball game?' You can make the argument that he should not be a spokesman, but knowing Jimmy, I don't think he's going to set himself up that way. I think he's going to analyze a ball- game, he's going to be entertaining, and people are goint to get a kick out of him. D: Everybody seems to love guys like Valvano, Dick Vitale, Billy Packer, and Al McGuire, but they set a couple of bad trends, first of all, they are a member of the 'coaching fraternity,' so they tend to overemphasize the importance of the coaches, and secondly, they don't do enough criticism of these coaches when they deserve it. Shouldn't these analysts be more into being journalists than being promoters? M: In an ideal world, you're right. The world is not ideal. There's no way that those guys are ever go- ing to be good journalists. They op- erate in a buddy system, and to claim otherwise would be to deceive the public. Now I would prefer that they don't even bother. News divisions should have sports seg-ments and should do the inves-tigative work and should look at the hard issues, and the sports guys should never, ever be involved. It has always been, invariably, and it always will be, a conflict of interest. You're just not going to go out and slam into your friends, and you're not going to do the kind of news job that needs to be done in some instances. Listen, I think the North Carolina State story is a hel- luva story. Don't get me wrong. If somebody came around and said they were a major league journalist and said, 'Brent, you were there the night they won the Championship, and you know Valvano,' I'd tell them I couldn't shed any light on the story, but I could certainly understand why a big time journalist would move in and do that story. I mean there's a question of a kid shaving points; that seems to me to be a big-time story. So don't misun- derstand what I'm saying. I'm say- ing, yeah, there should be more journalism, but not by guys like Dick Vitale. They're not trained for it, they've got too many friends. Vi- tale's an entertainer. Jim Valvano's an entertainer. Coaches are entertainers. D: Some of the things that came out regarding these coaches was pretty incriminating, and at the very least, Valvano was guilty of bad judgment. How much blame do you attribute to the coaches for the ques- tionable practices of their players? M: Let's take John Thompson as an example. I read the other day that David Wingate was indicted on sev- eral charges of rape. Now do we hold Thompson responsible for Wingate? How about the recruitment of Patrick Ewing? He wouldn't have gotten into Georgetown under the Prop 48 ruling. But isn't it part of the academic responsibility in this country to take youngsters who might be disadvantaged and give them an opportunity? I happen to believe that Ewing is a better citizen as a result of coming through Georgetown. David Wingate is too, and this is a different kind of problem. Terry Mills, Rumeal Robinson - they were Prop 48 players, and they're better off be- cause of Michigan. This whole 'Holier Than Thou' attitude about college athletes, many of whom are Black, just really leaves me cold. The same problems exist in the rest of American society, so why do sports have to be above all of it? It's business, and I don't know why anybody is naive about that fact. D: You mentioned John Thomp- son. When he coached the Olympic Team, you were pretty candid in ask- ing him if he would ever take a white player. He probably wasn't too happy about that. What was that like? M: He wasn't very happy about it. But every time I was on a talk show or sitting around a group like this, the question came up. So I fig- ure why not ask John Thompson? It seemed to me that the fans wanted to know the answer to that question, and if I think the fans want to know some answer, I'm gonna ask the question. It seems to me, and I'm not gonna make a big thing out of it, but Howard Cosell always fea- tured his question, while I prefer to feature the answer. But usually I won't hesitate to turn some heads with a question like that. Help our cheerleaders: Return the big 'M' flag The voice on the other end of the phone pleaded and wondered why a team's own fans would knife their own school in the back. "It is just a complete lack of respect," Annette Schmidt said. Schmidt had read last week's column - which was not exactly kind to Michigan fans. The column stated that maize and blue fans were boors with no school spirit. But Schmidt, who is the varsity cheerleading coach, was more upset at the things Michigan's student fans did, than didn't do, during last week's game against UCLA. Students stole the cheerleading crew's large 8x10-foot flag. That's the one that was waved right before the team came through the tunnel. It's the one that's waved at Crisler Arena in an attempt to stir some excitement from thousands of sleepers. So last week, while the cheerleaders cheered Michigan onto victory, I some students jumped out of the stands and attempted to heist the giant flag. ; They were caught. But when the Michigan cheerleaders returned from visit- ing with the opponent's cheerleaders on the other side of the field, they found the flag's pole on the other side of the wall, with the flag cut off and no where to be found. "It's just a lack of respect - not just towards the cheerleading team, but to the University of Michigan," Schmidt said. "What can anyone do with that flag anyhow?" Well, as a student, I could name a number of things a flag would do. It would look great hanging on a wall in someone's house, next to all the street signs that students have swiped. And it would make a great toga for a party. A tablecloth would not be out of the question either. But it leaves the cheerleading crew hurting. They do their best every week to create some excitement. And the flag has sentimental value to them, too. It was given to the crew down in Kentucky by Michigan basketball coach Steve Fisher back in 1989 while the Wolverines surged towards a na- tional championship. The team works on a limited budget, and they can-not afford to replace it. You won't see a facsimile at football or basketball games this year, or at the many fund-raising activities it was used for. So, in the end, what exactly does this all mean? This whole little incident reflects badly on Michigan's student body, which is being blamed for this heist. It's one thing not to cheer at sporting events. It's another thing to be a crook against one's own school. The team's morale is down over the past few incidents. Schmidt asks for a simple solution: Please return the flag. Take it to the athletic department offices at 1000 State Street. Drop off the flag. No questions asked. Or, you can drop the flag off at the Daily, at 420 Maynard. Again, no questions asked. And maybe that action will help heal the wounds which have been build- ing in the ranks of the cheerleading team. Maybe this can turn out to be a happy ending. Maybe Schmidt's crew, come the next home game against Michigan State, can truly smile when they look at the fans sitting in the stands - instead of wondering which students double crossed them. Stealing a team's flag makes for a great barroom story. It's one of those man versus nature types of fight. You took on something that stands for an entire institution, a huge machine, and won. Wow. You can laugh and joke that it's a story you'll tell your grandkids years down the line. In reality, though, it was all too easy. And it was cowardly. Now, whoever took it, do the honest thing: Return The Flag. Need the hot news fast? Find it in the Daily. Sarah Lawrence College ata at - An opportunity for qualified undergraduates to spend a year of study at Oxford. Individual tutorials with Oxford faculty, Oxford University lectures, and an affiliation with an Oxford college immerse students in Oxford's rich education tradition. For information contact: Sarah Lawrence College at Oxford Box UMO Bronxville, New York 10708 r-------- ------ --------------- - OI :.TGOO74T7mU Aa IA I 2 . 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