The Michigan Daily - Sports Monday- February 19, 1990 - Page 3 q1&4.' cS/'pol t &,& &jil d 7-loe Tel ander Richard Eisen * The columnist and talk-show host discusses the abuses of college athletics Rick Telander has been involved with college athletics since his days at Northwestern as a wide receiver and defensive back from 1968-71. Ever since that time Telander, au- thor of Heaven is a Playground and the recently published The Hundred Yard Lie, has written for Sports Ill- ustrated. Telander, a featured sports journalist on the popular Sports- writers show on Sportschannel, holds strong views regarding college athletics and its place in society. In October, excerpts of Telan- der's new book in Sports Illustrated provoked the wrath of ex-Michigan football coach Bo Schembechler, who lashed out at Telander. On Thursday, Telander spoke with Daily Sports Editor Steven Cohen. Daily: Why is your show so successful? Telander: I really do think that we come out there without any pretensions of being on TV at all, and believe me, that's very hard to do. At some point you'll find yourself acting to the cameras, you'll start acting to the medium you're in. But what we try to do is work our asses off as journalists dur- ing the week and then have a lively debate on it on Monday when we do it. That may sound simple but very quickly many of these talk shows * the people become the TV people, they're no longer journalists. We fight that like hell. We're just com- mon guys with uncommon access. And I think that's what people like. D: Why do you think Bo Schem- bechler took issue with the portrayal of Alex Agase (Telander's coach at Northwestern and a former assistant under Schembechler) in your book. * 'Here's the thing. Before you ask anybody what their opinion is ask what their vested interest is.' T: He's like a lot of coaches who are invested in the system. They don't like anybody telling them any- thing about the system which they think they own and run and a lot of these guys think they preexist the universities. It took some of the university presidents to finally tell these guys, 'Hey, you only exist because we allow you to.' It's a bittersweet look at him, it's am- bivalent. It's not I hate Alex Agase and it's not I love him, it's that he is a human and has his flaws like the rest of us. Alex was flabbergasted that anybody could ever say anything negative about him, and Bo in a sort of knee-jerk, 'I'll protect my buddy' kind of response refused to read any part of the book, and just read two paragraphs and immediately just trashed me. There are three things coaches always do to undermine anybody under their power: they call them a loser, a quitter, or a coward, one of those three, guaran- teed... Well, he called me a loser, he didn't know whether I was a coward or not. I laughed, I really laughed. D: You're a Northwestern alum, do you take pride in the way things are done there? T: I don't take pride in them losing. I don't take that much pride in them winning. I would be very reluctant to see Northwestern's foot- ball team go 11-0 because I would know the players they had to bring in to win. What I got out of college was what I learned and the assoc- iations I had with other students there. Those are the things that will stick with you a lifetime. Whether your team wins or loses, for Christ's sake, is unimportant, it's irrelevant. D: Were you upset to see Bo Schembechler step down? T: Well I don't take personal credit for it. I don't think there will be guys like Bo anymore. The era of the big time coach at the big time school for a quarter of a century - I just don't know if those days will be with us all that much longer or if they will ever be with us again. I wasn't really happy to see him leave, I think he's a man of integrity but his integrity is largely the type of integrity that he understands, that makes sense to him. And more and more I get the feeling that he wasn't really dealing with the way times have changed. Big-time college sport is not just the extracurricular activity that it may once have been, it's big, big business - big entertainment. I think it was good that he got out when he did. I don't know how he is going to stand baseball but I think at the time it was right. D: I recall watching the Sportswriters one day and I heard you address the issue of Bill Frie- der's contract. Can you discuss what you said. T: Well I don't have the figures in front of me but I know that he had bonuses for games won, for finishing over .500, for every game that they advanced in the NCAA tournament. He got something like $20,000 if he recruited a top-20 class. The point was the stupendous amount of money that this man can earn. But he doesn't earn that for educating or for anything like that. He earns the money for filling the stadium, that was another part of it, He earns incentive for winning, which is exactly what a coach probably should be rewarded for. But we have this false belief that these coaches are educators and that they have something to do with the educational system but they just don't. How would you feel if you were a player for Frieder, and I'm sure other basketball coaches have this too, where he's giving you a pep talk to win your next game and you know what he is really saying, or is at least subliminally thinking, 'you guys better win so I can make all that money.' What it gets down to is who is Bill Frieder? These are just sort of ornery, aggressive men makir.g three-quarters of a million dollars. Lou Holtz makes a million. 'The era of the big time coach at the big time school for a quarter of a century - I just don't know if those days will be with us all that much longer or if they will ever be with us again.' Jim Valvano makes over a million. I mean, why? That is nuts. Believe me, trust me, being a coach is not brain surgery. People think that these guys are geniuses. That word should never be used in regards to a coach... Somehow if you coach a team and they win, you're a genius. It's crazy, it's nuts. Lou Holtz called me last week to bitch about me talking about how much money he makes, and finally he said, 'Well you know I am embarrassed by all the money I make.' And I said, 'I think that's healthy, I think you should be embarassed.' D: What is so objectionable to you about the money they are mak- ing? T: The whole problem here, and there is only one problem and that is this stuff occurs on a university campus. Otherwise it's just normal business and it's no big deal-it's like the CBA, or minor league baseball...The purpose of a uni- versity is to educate its students, to pass on information from one generation to another, not to fill up a god-damned stadium with a 106,000 screaming people. This may sound naive but I have asked (several University presidents) very succinctly to address what is the purpose of the university, is it to provide entertainment for the masses? and to a man, they have all said, 'Absolutely not.' Now that has become the role of many of these sports teams. But because it has happened does not justify it. It is wrong. D: It would appear, then, that you are diametrically opposed to people like Dick Vitale, Al Mc- Guire, and Billy Packer, essentially cheerleaders for college basketball? T: No, I like those guys. Here's the thing. Before you ask anybody what their opinion is ask what their vested interest is. Dick Vitale, and all those guys make hundreds of thousands of dollars off of this sport. The same is true with the coaches. The same is true with the NCAA. All these people have vested inter- ests. If somebody can come up with my vested interest I'd like to know what it is, how I profit from whatever happens in college sport. I don't cover it, I'm not making millions off of the book. My book was a distant, distant seller, way behind Bo's book, way behind Joe Paterno's book, and way behind Lou Holtz's book. D: You may have had a vested interest in writing an article in Sports Illustrated about the Sports- writers. T: Oh I definitely have a vested interest in that. That's why I wrote it like I did, I put my cards on the table, I told exactly how much money I make...but at least I acknowledge it. You talk to these coaches and they act as if it's divine right that the system stay exactly the way it is and quite clearly they're the ones that benefit from it...Lou Holtz told his players at halftime of the Orange Bowl that how they did in the second half would determine whether they would be successes in life or not when in fact it meant nothing. It has nothing to do with how they'll be in life, it has a hell of lot to do with Lou Holtz's future but nothing to do with theirs. So it's that kind of misplaced interest and misplaced alleged con- cern for the athletes when really, as I said in my book, everything is done to benefit them if they really think about it. It's done to benefit the coaches. They just aren't aware of it. They see themselves as men out there working good, sort of like Mother Theresa. (UNLV coach) Jerry Tarkanian sees himself as Father Flanagan D: Well, coaches like Tarkanian see themselves as taking impov- erished kids from the inner-city and giving them an education. T: The argument is specious because there are millions of under- privileged Black kids in the ghettos, if they want to help them they're all out there, waiting, begging for help. They just want the one's that are 6- feet-10...There's no question Black athletes are getting screwed, abso- lutely no question. Universities are incredibly white establishments and they'd like to have more black students. But in some cases most of the Black students are athletes and they are there to be used. D: This may be impractical, but do you think that for every Black athlete admitted, a certain number of other Black students should be ad- mitted? T: I think that's a great idea. And he gets to choose them. They say this billion-dollar NCAA contract, the schools will use it for a good purpose. Well, screw that, let the athletes decide how its going to be used, they're the ones that are generating it. Now if I were a player I'd say very simply there's nothing wrong with making money if that's what everybody is doing but 'Coach, I want mine. What's going on, why do I make money for you?' State fans take away icers home advantage On Saturday night, the Michigan State Spartans travelled to Yost Ice Arena to play what should have been an away game in an unfriendly CCHA barn. So, of course, it came as no surprise that for the eighth straight time in my career at this university, Spartan hockey fans clearly outnumbered Michigan fans in Ann Arbor. That's funny; on my handy-dandy wallet sized Michigan hockey schedule, it had the words Michigan State in bold, to signify that Michigan did indeed have a home game against the Spartans on February 17. Too bad it never came to pass because the student body on this campus seems to hold an incredibly apathetic attitude toward its hockey team. Year after god-forsaken year, the students on this campus allow thousands of slobbering State fans to pack Yost Ice Arena when their team is in town. And now, it must stop. It must stop because not only does it hinder Michigan's chances to win, but it also represents a major source of embarassement and frustration for a program trying to reconstruct Michigan's winning reputation in college hockey. As I sat in my seat last Saturday, I saw sea of green and white amidst the hockey banners and tradition of Yost Ice Arena. While the ghosts of Al Renfrew, Dave Debol and Bill McFarland watched -probably in disgust - the MSU fight song drowned out Michigan fans trying to muster a modicum of spirit for their hockey team. Whenever the Spartans scored, and they did so five times Saturday night, the stands shook with thunderous cheers and applause that should only be reserved for Michigan goals. That is the point of having a home ice, isn't it? Behind the south-end goal, a group of fans dressed in Spartan hockey uniforms bought up five rows of general admission seats. And to add insult to injury, they held up a huge sign that read "M Go Blows." How can these people just barge in from East Lansing and snap up five rows of seats for the biggest college hockey game on Michigan's home schedule? I hope those Michigan fans who didn't get off their duffs to buy a damn ticket are satisfied. Because it does hurt. "Home ice advantage means a lot," Michigan coach Red Berenson said after he heard "Go Green, Go White" drown out his alleged fans for sixty straight minutes Saturday. "We go up there and face 6,000 of their fans. And then we come down here and its 4,000 of us and 4,000 of them," he said. It's just not fair. How can fans tell Michigan players they support them and then let them down for the most crucial game on the schedule? It has even come to a point where the Spartans themselves expect to have an advantage in Yost. I don't blame them; it happens every damn time the Spartans come into Ann Arbor. Imagine, if you can, Wolverine fans getting off their duffs in November to buy tickets for this game. Imagine, if you can, not one speck of green in Yost Ice Arena for the Michigan-Michigan State game. If that ever came to pass, the Spar:ans wouldn't have a chance. First, the Spartan players would be so shocked, they would probably forget how to skate. Second, Michigan players would be so geeked, they'd forget about losing. Third, this is all a dream. For some reason, drawing Michigan students into Yost seems about as tough as getting people to live on Three Mile Island. Come into Yost for China Syndrome Night against Lake Superior. Redeem your stub and get a free nuclear fission! In fact, the athletic department has tried to make Michigan hockey more desirable, offering Rowdy Rags, their version of the Homer Hankies, to fans. Unfortunately, the Rags look more greenish than maizish. Plus, the Michigan Pep Band has ballooned to a nice-sized group of tooters. My first year here, there were five people who played for the hockey team. Now, there's over 50. It's nice to see but, unfortunately, this is not enough. I think Michigan should pour more money into its hockey program and finally renovate Yost Ice Arena. The barn has too many problems. ' First, the ice stinks. There's more chips in the ice at Yost than there are in a Las Vegas casino. Do something to smooth it out. Second, it's too damn big and dreary. In Bowling Green, the ceiling is so low that you can touch it in the last row of the arena. This causes the noise to reverberate and make the crowd sound much larger than it is. The same goes for Western Michigan's home ice arena. It's not big, but it sure is loud and intimidating. In Yost, the rafters go on as far as the eye can see. All the sound gets caught up in there, causing Michigan fans to sound as quiet as church mice. When the Pep Band tuba player begins to slowly blat the opening bars to "Let's Go Blue," it echoes through the rafters and sounds like Wally Walrus with a gas problem. So, let's round out the corners and lower the ceiling at Yost. It might lower the capacity slightly, but who cares if you have the "largest crowd in college hockey" if you can't fill the barn for the big games. Maybe the hockey team should get more promotion than just placing their schedules in barber shop windows. If more people on this campus knew we had a competative, interesting hockey program, we would not have to deal with those obnoxious State fans taking over the place twice a year. But, of course, the first step must be taken by the student body. Get off your behinds, already. It's your hockey team. Anyone who likes hockey has no excuse for not showing up to the games. Anyone who hates Michigan State has no excuse for not getting a ticket last Saturday. Believe me, if it stinks to watch your team lose on home ice and hear cheers coming down from the crowd, imagine how the players must feel. "There's always a lot going on here." Name: Laura Bernard$ Status: Junior Major: Economics Position at the DaIly:f Classified Manager Yt "It's a great experience to be working at a place that s completely student-run, where students manage everything that's going on. There aren't many jobs you can get during school where you actually have management responsibilities." Da Col le ally Ivice luinn Coming. Gophers take out NU by Phil Green and Ryan Schreiber Daily Basketball Writers EVANSTON - Using a bal- Newburn all 13 of his points i anced scoring attack that saw all five second half dominated by Minn 'Xf starters score in double figures, No. Northwestern coach Bill F 17 Minnesota beat Northwestern, though crediting Minnesota's e 90-72, Saturday in Welsh-Ryan was disappointed by his teams n the esota. oster, ffort, play. PASS IT AROUND! Arena. Northwestern (8-15, 1-12) trailed the Gophers (17-6, 8-5) by only one point at halftime, 29-28, behind Walker Lambiotte's eight first half points and five rebounds. Surprisingly, the Wildcats outre- bounded Minnesota, 14-11, in the game's first twenty minutes. The Gophers entered the contest avera- ging over nine rebounds per game over their opponents. After the Wildcats tonk a-1 "I think it's the worst game we've played here in some time," he said. "In the second half, we played like our feet were in cement. They played quick and we just totally came apart." The win was Minnesota's first in Evanston since a 74-48 victory in 1985. Haskins believes that his Gophers are finally tough on the road, but in his first few years, "we were terrible. We couldn't beat five