into Continued from previous page * Orr said the same policy should be applied to staff, faculty and stu- dents. "If there's going to be a pol- icy, why would there need to be a separate policy for each group?" SAPAC Julie Steiner Steiner is the director of the 9 Sexual Assault Prevention and Awareness Center % Steiner said she firmly believes the University has a responsibility to shield students from harassment. However, she has many problems with the interim policy. " The part that disturbs me the most is in the interim policy is the part that talks about intent." said 'Steiner. "To prove that something is malicious intent is difficult." "A lot of it is not intentional, a lot of it is people don't know that what they're doing is offensive, how are they going to learn?" said Steiner. Steiner supports education as the thrust of the policy, but she wonders if educational sanctions such as workshops have been thoroughly thought out. "I don't think it's enough to send somebody to one workshop," she said. "The thing about harassment and discrimination is we're taught the stuff; we're talking about 17 to 21 years of solid education on this ...They're never going to know it's wrong if someone doesn't tell them."- She is concerned about the lack of a clause on intimidating or hostile 4nvironments. "Harassment is ;learly more than an individual act," to said. > She mentioned the incident this ll when members of a fraternity ledge class sang songs that were emeaning to women on the Diag. "Yes, they have a right to free *peech, but those several hundred people that were sitting around have a right not to be attacked in that Y" Steiner questions the rationale hat cases of harassment should be andled by the court system and the ntention that University students giving up rights under the pol- Reach 40,000 readers after class, advertise In ' - -- - anti- harassment The Michigan Daily - Monday, October 30, 1989 - Page 9 policy ACLU Mike Schechter Schechter is the vice president of the ACLU's campus chapter. Schechter said the ACLU has ini- tially decided that the policy is still too vague. Members of the group have many questions about the policy: When is a statement is considered to be in the context of a discussion of ideas? Would it be possible to select board members that were sympathetic to a point of view? How and who would enforce the sanctions? "If this is a code that we're going to be held strictly accountable to then there should be no questions." Schechter said there the issue of enforcing sanctions is very impor- tant. "There's absolutely no provi- sion that suggests how... that's a big problem." The group also believes the al- leged victim and perpetrator should be entitled to an attorney at all times. UCAR David Maurrasse and Pam Nadasen Both are members of the United Coalition Against Racism. Nadasen and Maurrasse said they believe the policy should be drafted by students of color. Maurrasse said it wasn't enough to just include students of color on the advisory committee, but that those active in the anti-racist com- munity were needed. "You could have a lot of Black people on that committee, but if you put a bunch of conservative Blacks on the committee who believe racism doesn't exist anymore, you're going to have some serious prob- lems," Maurrasse said. "Whose interests are being served by this committee?" said Nadasen. "Most students aren't affected by racism, it's students of color that are affected." They added that the complaints filed under the policy should be re- viewed by a body of students of color. Nadasen said the policy should include a definition of racism. She said the policy should not include reverse racism. She said reverse racism was not the same as reverse racism because whites have tradi- tionally held the power in this coun- try. She said that while calling a white person a "honky" is a nasty thing it does not have the same ef- fect as racially attacking a Black per- son. Maurrasse questions the interim policy only punishing discrimina- tory acts that are addressed to an in- dividual. "The idea that people can say things as long as they're not directed at anybody is ludicrous," he said. Nadasen agreed. "The whole basis of racism is that it doesn't have to be aimed at an individual, it's aimed at a race." Nadasen and Maurrasse believe the emphasis should be placed on a staff and faculty policy. "We don't want a policy which is going to allow people to teach cer- tain racist ideologies," said Maur- rasse. Maurrasse said working within the confines of the court order would be difficult. "We have to question the federal court's desire to have this kind of policy...the courts them- selves are going to perpetuate racism." SALSA Carlos Manjarres Manjarres is president of the Socially Active Latino Students Association Manjarres said the policy should include a definition of injurious lan- guage. He said the harmful intent of a comment should be considered, he said a comment can be harmful re- gardless of its aim at an individual. "Intent to harm is very important to my perspective whether its on a group or individual level," he said. "Intent supersedes directionality of the comment." Manjarres believes the policy ought to list several reference groups for students. UMASC Susan Rhee and Tom Fujita Both are members of the UM Asian Student Coalition. Rhee is the liaison between UCAR and UMASC and a member of the administration's student advisory committee on the policy. Rhee and Fujita said the adminis- tration of the policy places to much focus on mediating incidents of ha- rassment. Rhee withdrew a com- plaint from mediation last year. "The problem of mediation was that the (policy administrator) said, 'We want both people to leave happy.' When you have an instance of racial or sexual discrimination how can this happen?" Rhee questioned." Fujita agreed. "There seemed to be an emphasis in mediation which is laudable but it is based on the premise that the (harasser) didn't in- tend to harm anyone," she said. "I think mediation is appropriate when someone out of ignorance didn't know something was offen- sive," said Fujita. "The real failing of the old policy is it didn't take into account that there are some people who are just nasty, they can't be ed- ucated." Both said they would like to see a more trial-based system, with a hear- ing board with student members and a professionally trained mediator. Fujita said a professionally- trained mediator was a necessity because a university is "one of the the few places where (diversity) of opinion is fine, that makes arbitration very difficult." Rhee said she was troubled by the a lack of organization in administer- ing the policy. She said that at one time she was placed alone in a room with one of the people who harassed her. "It's obvious that the administra- tion doesn't take this very seri- ously," Rhee said. Fujita thinks the University should somehow publicize what kind of cases fall under the policy. He said the University would have to keep within the confines of the Buckley Amendment, a federal law which prohibits thetdisclosureof student names involved in disci- plinary suits. "The community has the right to know that if someone is the victim they've been compensated in some way," he said. 74,, Ce~" Pd College Republicans Doug Morris Morris is president of the College Republicans. Morris said a policy would not help solve the problem and may be abused. "It's a grey area in a lot of ways, I don't think we can set a policy that's really going to do anything." Morris said he fears the policy may be abused. He said that he has been called racist for his stance against affirmative action and would fear a student using a policy for these kind of reasons. Morris declined to suggest changes to the policy. "I don't there should be one so its tough to sug- gest alternatives," he said. NASA Amy De Long De Long is the former president and a current member of the Native American Association. De Long said the University should give the policy more public- ity. "It's important for students to know that something like this ex- ists." De Long emphasized the need for education, but said she doesn't think the University should require a course on ethnicity. Instead, she said the education should come from an increased number of minority Stu- dents. "The more people we have from different cultures... the more people will learn," she said. "You learn more by talking to other people than from a classroom." K9F WE WANT YOU!!! The Michigan Daily's Display Advertising De- partment is now hiring account executives for the fall term. Pick up your application today at 420 Maynard. Summer Leadership Opportunities a Summer as Orientation Leader * GAIN CAREER-RELATED SKILLS AND EXPERIENCE * SUPPORT CHANGE ON CAMPUS * MEET AND WORK WITH OTHER CAMPUS LEADERS * FULL TIME SUMMER EMPLOYMENT * PAID ROOM AND BOARD C(NVA/DER ORIENTA T/ON - CONSI/DER YOUR //TURE' Applications available at 3000 Michigan Union, at your residence hall front desk, and the Campus Information Center A PPLICATION DEADLINE EXTENDED TO NOVEMBER 6, 1989 AN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION NON-DISCRIMINATORY EMPLOYER Sarah Lawrence College 4t Oxford An opportunity for qualified undergraduates to spend a year of study at Oxford. Individual tutorials with Oxford faculty, Oxford University lectures, and an affiliation with an Oxford college immerse students in Oxford's rich education tradition. For information contact: Sarah Lawrence College at Oxford Box UMO Bronxville, New York 10708 YOU ARE INVITED TO A MONSTEROUS PARTY AT , _r THE MICHIGAN UNION BOOKSTORE A (COMPLIMENTARY CIDER & TREATS!!!) TUESDAY, OCTOBER 31 10:00 A.M. - 2:00 P.M. WHILE YOU ARE HERE.... SAVE 50% ON SELECTED ITEMS! (LAST DAY OCTOBER 31) The Co-op Advantage UIC's ME IA Consider the benefits of your MBA from UIC. A program that works with you: Gain management experience while earning a salary through co-op. You'll enhance your resume and you could land a great job. Excellent teaching -and research in 11 concentrations comple- ment your co-op learning experience. A dynamic location for learning and living: Chicago's exciting business environ- ment is in our front yard-and our backyard. Our campus is easily accessed by car and public transportation. 7 A valuable alternative: Chicago's only state-supported, AACSB-accredited MBA program helps you reach your goals without losing your shirt. For details write or call 312-996-4573. UriV ViASITY ILLDrIOI 74)' I I