Page 8 - The Michigan Daily - Monday, October 30, 1989 Student groups offer MSA Nick Mavrick Mavrick is chair of the Michigan Student Assembly's Student Rights Committee, which is sponsoring a forum on the policy Nov. 8. He is also co-chair of the administration's student advisory committee on the policy. Mavrick said a conduct policy will not adequately help the problem of harassment on campus. He said the University should concentrate its efforts on other programs to combat harassment. Mavrick said he would like to see the administration set up a compre- hensive counseling service similar to the Sexual Assault Prevention and Awareness Center to handle cases of discriminatory harassment. "We have to challenge whether it's going to be effective," he said. "From what I've seen, the codes the University puts forth don't accom- plish anything." Mavrick said the administration should aid victims of harassment in taking their cases through the courts. "If the complaint has merit, then the University should spend its money taking it through the judi- ciary," he said. "How many people can you have making subjective de- cisions? That's what the judicial branch was set up for." College Democrats Roger Kosson Kosson is the president of the College Democrats. Kosson believes education is the key to ending discriminatory ha- rassment. He said he believes the University is using the policy as a way to deflect attention from the is- sues of education, minority recruit- ment and retention. "It's almost like (the administra- tion) can say, 'Look, we're doing something on racism."' Kosson said. "An anti-discrimination policy deals with the problem after it happens; if you want to handle the problem, you have to go to a deeper, tougher level." "If you really want to deal with the issue you have to do the tougher things." He includes a mandatory class requirement on ethnicity as one of these tougher things. MAC Delro Harris and Barry Eng Harris is chair of MSA's Minority Affairs Commission and co-chair of the administration's student advisory committee on the policy. Eng is also a MAC member. Both are staff residents at Trotter House. Eng and Harris said the Univer- sity should be concentrating more ef- fort on alternative ways to curb dis- crimination. "I think that my suggestion is to leave well enough alone," Harris Groups share some comm insight ton ground s not harassment. atory The article represents a variety of student d the groups, but an emphasis was placed on those that "d in are associated with minority groups. The length, of commentary reflects the length of response. aking Members of the Black Student Union chose le for not to comment on the policy. by Kristine LaLonde Daily Administration Reporter Although student groups over the years have argued for and against many University policies, few characteristics have been consistent in these campaigns. Except for one - the plea for more student input into University policy. But deciding exactly what this input should be and what form it should take is difficult. After the University called for student input into a new discriminatory harassment policy, The Daily decided to put members of student groups into the driver's seat. If they were making the decision, what would they do? Although the student groups disagreed on consistent themes. All said the policy wa the answer to problems of discrimin harassment on campus, and many sai University administration is misguide concentrating its efforts on the policy. All agreed education was the key to m the University community more comfortab minorities, women, and other groups whic the victims of discrimination. But theg representatives did not agree on whet mandatory class requirement was the right w approach education. The opinions of the non-student directo co-director of the Sexual Assault Preventio Awareness Center and the Lesbian and Male's Programs Office were solicited be they often work with cases of discrimin h are group her a way to r and n and Gay cause iatory The original discriminatory-harassment pol 0 icy was struck down in federal court as uncon- stitutional Aug. 25. Judge Avern Cohn, who presided over the case, said the policy was, overly broad and vague. President James Dud=s erstadt put an interim policy, which is muck more specific than the original policy, in place on Sept. 15. Duderstadt said he hopes to have a new permanent policy into place by Jan. 1. much of what should be done, there were some I said. "The policy that's around now is not the greatest thing, but it does deal with some issues." Eng and Harris said the Univer- sity should concentrate its efforts on education and a faculty and staff pol- icy. "It's more a matter of this policy being just half of the picture," Harris said. "It's kind of been blown out of proportion in that its been given this image of supposedly taking care of everything." Both Eng and Harris think the University should have a course re- quirement which allows students to choose from a selection of classes. "We have to have education," Eng said. "The policy is too situa- tional. We have to deal with the problem where it begins." Harris and Eng said they believe the University ought to increase the number of classes about minority cultures, regardless of any require- ment. Harris and Eng noted that an anti- discriminatory policy for faculty and staff would have longer lasting and more powerful effects on the cam- pus. "Students are transitory. We're here and then we're gone. The ad- ministrators, the faculty, the staff - they're the ones who are going to be here, they're the ones who set the tone," Harris said. "If they set a tone that (racism) is all right then that's going to set the tone for the University," he added. "That's going to have a longer last- ing effect regardless of the make-up of the student population." LGMPO Billie Edwards Edwards is the co-director of the Lesbian and Gay Male's Programs Office Edwards said she is upset that the interim policy does not include a clause dealing with intimidating or hostile environments. "Until the environmental issue is dealt with we're not going to get too far," she said. Edwards said she thinks education is the key to solving the problem. She said she hopes her office will have access to all University areas for educational programs, including sports programs, residence halls, and classrooms. LaGROC 0 Tracey Orr Orr is a member of the Lesbian and Gay Rights Organizing Committee. She is also the president of Rackharr Student Government and a member of the administration's student advisory committee on the policy. Orr said the University tends to ignore lesbians and gay men as a minority group on campus. She said they are often excluded in policies and speeches made by administration officials. "With the University policies irk general, they tend to exclude sexual orientation, or if it's in there they tend not to enforce it." Continued on next page* The Calendar of The University of Michigan The Caendercombines metarg. ,c re, werAop,. andeoVeraece woa.a.co, withereventsaMkaeningeach weak on wnpas. IrisNuMedoTh. Udvenity acwd Cakenderoadisopen£odUvasunrdiy-omseare uurpgaae.tic.srecogaed by the Michian sSuden Assembly. Item, aunt be subvifled is writin; by S pis. the Tuesday before publwoiion. Address all Wonution to Annu Bee"le. Publiawions Assisjat.UnivmerityRoccEd. 4)2 Mayad Street. An aterir (w)denotes ewnu t whichi. mion is chajed. MONDAY OCTOBER 30 Canterbury House-Lesbian-gay men's community open house, 8:45 pm, 218 N Division, 665-0606. Shorin-ryu Karate-do Club-Karate (beginners welcome), 7:30-8:30 pm, CCRB Small Gym, 747-6825. Tae kwon do Club-Mtg (beginners welcome), 7-8:30 pm, 2275 CCRB, 677- 3135. Northwalk-North campus safety walking svc, 8 pm-1:30 am, Bursley Rm 2333 or 763-WALK. Safewalk-Safety walking svc, 8 pm-1:30 am, UGLi Rm 102 or 936-1000. CRLT-TA wkshp, "Intro to Preparing Graphics for Instructional or Professional Presentations," 7-9:30 pm, Angell Hall Courtyard Rm A, reg req, 763-0162. *Comput Ctr-Class: Using the DOS 40 Shell, 10 am-noon; Excel Graphics, 10:30 am-12:30 pm; Excel Databases, 8:30-10:30 am; 3001 SEB; Macintosh Basic Skills lec/demonstration, 1-3 pm, 611 Church St Reg req 763-3700. *HRD-Wkshps: Black and White Styles in Conflict," 8:30 am-4:30 pm, loc to be announced; Preparing for Retirement (faculty), 6-9 pm,1111 Kipke Dr Reg req 764-7410. 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Wels Lutheran Campus Ministry-Study/discuss, 8-9 pm, Mich Union, 662-0663 or 761-6362. Iranian Sdt Cultural Club-Non-political, non-religious mtg, 7:30 pm, Mich League, 662-8933. Shotokan Karate of Mich-Karate (beginners welcome), 8:30-10 pm, CCRB Martial Arts Rm. LaGROC (Lesbian & Gay Men's Rights Organizing Committee)- Mtg, 8 pm, Mich Union Rm 3100, 763-4186. *Zen Buddhist Temple-Intro Yoga & Breathing Class, 7:30-9 pm, 1214 Packard Rd, 761-6520. Univ Council-Univ Council mtg, 10 am-noon, 2002 LSA, 763-5082. Northwalk-North campus safety walking svc, 8 pm-1:30 am, Bursley Rm 2333 or 763-WALK. Safewalk-Safety walkine svc 8 nm-1.30 am ,I IGi Rm 102 nr 936-1000. *Comput Ctr-Wkshps, Intro to Comput, 1-3 pm; Basic Concepts of Programming, 10 am-noon; 611 Church St; MS-DOS for Hard Disk Users, 1-4 pm; FileMaker II Basic Skills, 8:30 am-12:30 pm; Word Review Lab (IBM PC and Compatibles), 8:30-9:30 am; Begin Word, Part 2 (IBM PC and Compatibles), 10 am-noon & 1-4 pm; 3001 SEB; Reg req 763-3700. Visit Writer Series-Poetry reading, Olga Broumas, 5 pm, Rackham E Conf Rm, 764-6296. 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Chem-Seminars, "Carbonyl Ylide Synthons: An Approach to Capped 1, 3- Dipoles," R Linderman, 4 pm, Rm 1640; "Measurement of Toxic Olefin Vapors Using a Surface-Acoustic-Wave (SAW) Microsensor with Regenerable Organoplatinum Coating," E T Zellers, 4 pm, Rm 1650. Hillel Found-Lecture, "Shaping Jewish Culture and Identity in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe: The State as Social Engineer," Z Gitelman, 4:30 pm, Rackham Amphi; discussion, "The Impact of the State on National Identity in Eastern and Western Europe," 8 pm, loc to be announced; Israeli dancing, 7:30-10 pm, 1429 Hill St, $2; Memorial svc, Mickey Leland, 5 pm, Diag (Mich Union if raining); 769-0500. Sdts Objectivism-Discussion, "The Objectivist Ethics," 7:30 pm, Mich League Rm C, 996-4141. Univ Lutheran Chapel-Choir rehearsal, 7:30 pm; Holden Village Vespers, 9 pm; 1511 Washtenaw, 663-5560. Career Plan & Place-Sharpening Your Interview Skills, 4:10-5 pm, CP&P Rm 1, 764-7460. BioEngr-Seminar, "Development of a Technlogy from Laboratory to Marketplace," K Mohan, 4-5 pm, 1017 Dow Bldg. CRLT-TA wkshp, "Teaching Sdts To Use The Comput," 6:30-9:30 pm, 109 E Madison, reg req, 763-0162. *Comput Ctr-Wkshps, Begin Word, Part 1 (Macintosh), 1-5 pm; Advanced Course of Action, 8:30 am-12:30 pm; 3001 SEB Reg req 763-3700. Engr Lib-Patent seminar, 9 am, Chrysler Ctr Aud Reg req 764-4794. *Extension & Cont Educ/U-M Flint-Wkshp begs, "Handling Difficult People and Behavior: Dealing With Yourself and Other Difficult People," C Apple, 8:30 am-4:30 pm, Univ Ctr Mich Rms, 762-3200. *HRD-Wkshps beg, Conflict Management: Principles and Practices, 8:30 am- noon; The Pride Program: Personal Responsibility In Developing Excellence, 1-4:30 pm; Personal Financial Planning, 5-7 pm; Money Matters: What You Need to Know for Your Survival in a Financial Crunch, 8:30-11:30 am; 1111 Kipke Dr, Post-Divorce Syndrome: Surviving Post-Divorce Financial Trauma, noon, Mich League Conf Rm 6; Reg req 764-7410. Intl Ctr-Seminar, "Info about your rights and responsibilities as a tenant in non-university housing," C Green, 7-8 pm, Intl Ctr Rec Rm, 747-2303 Psych iatry-Conf or Grand Rounds to be sched, 10:30 am, 764-9527. *Mich Union-Concert, Bob Dylan, 8 pm, Hill Aud, 763-TKTS. *MedSport-Total Body Conditioning to Maximize Your Health, Domino's Farms Fitness Ctr, reg req. SWE-Pre-interviews, Engelhard Corp, 6-8 pm, 1010 Dow; Boeing, 6-8 pm, 1311 EECS; 763-5027. SPH-Memorial svc, John P Kirscht, 3 pm, SPH Aud, 747-4411 THURSDAY NOVEMBER 2 Guild House-Women & Spirituality mtg, pm, 662-5189. "Chanting Workshop," M Hart, 7:30 Chem-Seminar, "Photon Migration in Human Tissue," G Weiss, 4 pm, Rm 1640. Hillel Found-Social Club Happy Hour, 5-8 pm, Dominick's, 769-0500. E Asian Initiatives Prog-Lecture, "The Beijing Crisis and Chinese Politics," R MacFarquhar, 8 pm, Hale Aud, 764-6308. Campus WAND-Lecture, "Beyond the Cold War: A European Perspective," D Peeters, 7:30 pm, Rackham Amphi, 662-2475. *Univ Music Soc-Concert, Orchestre de la Suisse Romande, 8 pm, Hill Aud, 764-2538. Mus Anthropology-Brown-bag lec, "The Documentation of Valuable Negative Data and Other Stores: Archaeological Fieldwork of Saginaw Valley State Univ in the late 1980s," J Payne, Nat Sci Mus Rm 2009, noon-1 pm, 764-0485 Univ Lutheran Chapel-Lutheran Doctrine Study, 7 pm; Handbell rehearsal, 8 pm; Study on Reading Greek, 8:30 pm; 1511 Washtenaw, 663-5560. Career Plan & Place-Employer Presentations: Ames Department Store, Inc, 7-8 pm, Mich Union Kuenzel Rm; JP Morgan & Co, Inc, 7-9 pm, Mich Union Pendleton Rm; 764-7460. U-M Flint-Concert, Trio Mexico, 7:30 pm, U-M Flint Theatre, 762-3351. *Zen Buddhist Temple-Intro Zen Meditation, S Murray, 6:30-8:30 pm, 1214 Packard Rd Reg req 761-6520. Med Chem-Seminar, "An Overview of Dehydroquinate Synthetase," J S Pudlo, 4 pm, 3554 CC Little Bldg. Arch & Urban Plan-Lecture, "Recent Work," A Chemetoff, 8 pm, Chrysler Aud, 764-1300. Physics-Lecture, "Why Do America's Nobel Prizes Yield Only Second-Class Businesses?" D N Frey, 3 pm, Dennison Bldg Rm 170. *Comput Ctr-Wkshps, MTS Basic Skills, 9 am-noon; Lotus 1-2-3 Basic Skills, 1-5 pm; 3001 SEB; Intro to Macintosh Graphics, 1-3 pm, 611 Church St Reg req 763-3700. *Cont Med Educ-3-day course begs, "Modem Perinatal Problems: An Update for the Practicing Ob-Gyn," H F Andersen, Towsley Ctr, 763-1400. Evolution & Human Behav Prog-Lecture, "A Theory of Moral Sentiments," R Frank, 4 pm, Rackham E Lec Rm, 936-2526. *Extension & Cont Educ/U-M Flint-Wkshp begs, "Employees Discipline and Grievance Handling," L B Coleman, 8:30 am-4:30 pm, Univ Ctr Mich Rms, 762-3200. U-M Flint-"Americans and the Arts," E Chapleski, 12:15 pm, Univ Ctr Mich Rm D, 762-3351. *HRD-Wkshps, Shopping for Jobs, noon-1 pm, Sch Bus Rm 1270; Gender Issues in Effective Communication, 1:30-4:30 pm; Writing It Right: Punctuation, 8:30 am-noon; Creativity for Managers, 9 am-noon; Preparing for Retirement (staff), 1:30-4:30 pm; 1111 Kipke Dr Reg req 764-7410. SNR-Lecture, "The Worldwide Environmental Movement," M McCloskey, 4 pm, 1046 DANA; Seminar mtg, 7-9 pm, 1504 DANA. *ICLE-Course, "Annual Fall Pension Law and Practice Update," noon-4 pm, 1020 Greene St Reg req 764-0533. Ctr Japan Stds-Brown-bag lec, "Fellowships and Financial Aid for Grad Students," D Stanczak, noon, Lane Hall Commons Rm, 764-6307. Mich Union-Music at Mid-day, trombonist L Penpraze, 12:15 pm, Mich Union Pendleton Rm, 764-6498. *Mich League-Intl night, Switzerland, League Buffet, 4:30-7:30 pm Univ Hosp-Michigan Fanfare Band, 12:30 pm, Univ Hosp Courtyard FRIDAY NOVEMBER 3 Lesbian-Gay Male Prog-Mtg, "Black Gay Brothers United," 8 pm, Mich Union Rm 3200, 763-4186. Shorin-ryu Karate-do Club-Karate (beginners welcome), 8:30-9:30 pm, CCRB Martial Arts Rm, 747-6825. Tae kwon do Club-Mtg (beginners welcome), 6-8 pm, 1200 CCRB, 677- 3135. Gay Liberation-Brothers Coffee House, 8 pm, 802 Monroe St, 763-4186. Safewalk-Safety walking svc, 8-11:30 pm, UGLi Rm 102 or 936-1000. Anthropology-Lecture, "Experimental Field Studies of Asian Ape Social System," J C Mitani, 4 pm, 4560 LS&A, 764-7274. *Guild House-Luncheon/discuss, "After the Cold War-Then What?" D Peeters, noon, 662-5189. Dekers Blue Line Club-All-skate with Wolverines, 12:15-2 pm, Yost Ice Arena, 764-3483. E Asian Initiatives Prog-Panel, "Long Term Causes and Consequences of the Beijing Spring on China's Domestic Development," 9-11:30 am; panel, "The Dynamics of the Beijing Spring Crisis-April-June," 1:30-4 pm; Lane Hall Commons Rm, 764-6308 764-6308. Univ Lutheran Chapel-Fellowship & videos, 7:30 pm, 1511 Washtenaw, 663-5560. Sch Soc Wk-Social Work Day, 3-6 pm, Rackham Amphi, 764-5330. EECS-Seminar, "Discrete Approximations of Optimal Control Systems," B Murdockovitch, 4 pm, EECS 1200, 747-2045. *Comput Ctr-Wkshp, Word Columns and Tables (IBM PC and Compatibles), 8:30-10:30 am; HyperCard Script, 9 am-noon; 3001 SEB Reg req 763-3700. *HRD-Wkshp, Inferential Stats, 10 am-noon, 1111 Kipke Dr Reg req 764-7410. SNR-Lecture, "Problems of Conserving Native Ferns of Hawaii," W Ii Wagner, noon, 1046 DANA. Intl Ctr-Seminar, "Info About On-Campus Employment for Intl Students," C Schmult. 12:30-2 pm. Intl Ctr Rec Rm. 747-2303. 0 S 0 Is