The Michigan Daily - Thursday, September 8, 1988 - Page 15 PROFILE BY RYAN TUTAK If you ever have a conversation with Michigan Stu- dent Assembly President Michael Phillips, don't be surprised if he doesn't look you in the eye. Or if what he says offends you. "He doesn't like to gloss things over with niceties," said MSA Vice President Susan Overdorf, an LSA se- nior. "If he doesn't agree with what I'm doing, he'll let me know it." AND HE WON'T waste time doing it. Phillips, an LSA senior, is a person of few and very select words. He hates to be misconstrued. He's afraid to be exploited. And he doesn't want to give himself away. In fact, Phillips refused to be interviewed for this profile. He said talking to other people would be the only way to get his story. Knowing Phillips, that's probably true. "When you approach him, he'll tell you what he thinks," said LSA junior Zach Kittrie, chair of MSA's External Relations Committee. "And it's hard to deal with. But he's certainly not talkative. He's a man of few words." BUT PHILLIPS LIKES to know where every- one stands, and he likes people to know where he stands. He runs assembly meetings briskly and with an iron fist. When he feels representatives are rambling or making irrelevant comments, he'll cut them off and move on. But some MSA representatives say his drive for control goes too far. LSA junior Sarah Riordan resigned as an MSA rep. and chair of the assembly's Student Rights Committee fast spring because she said Phillips is "sexist, manip- ulative, and unnecessarily aggressive." She said his leadership style creates an uncomfortable and hostile environment at MSA. No doubt, Phillips is often rude. He's told Overdorf to shut up at MSA meetings more than once. Maybe it's just a game; obnoxious rhetoric is the cornerstone of his sense of humor. After a meeting with some of the University's Board of Regents last winter, he said flatly, "I've had better meetings with pigs." "HE ENJOYS making statements that are going to get people's attention and raise people's ire," said Rackham student Bruce Belcher, MSA parliamentarian. "But his comments can be subject to misinterpreta- tion." Phillips knows it. Sometimes he'd rather say noth- ing at all than risk spewing offensive statements. Overdorf said he hates to be "fake." But almost the op- posite seems true. He is solemn and careful, as if guarding against any slips he'll regret. "It's a challenge to deal with him because he doesn't make his emotions known," Kittrie said. "When he's in a hurry, he won't sweat. He's not disoriented." But he'd rather avoid pressure situations and take life easy. "We have to walk slow so he can chill," Overdorf told the Daily last winter, on the way to an interview MSA President Michael Phillips refused an interview for this story. But his record speaks for itself. "He has done all he could to fight the code, and le has taken some difficult stands," said Rackham student Daniel Holliman, a United Coalition Against Racis 1 steering committee member. "But he has lost the re- spect of most of the Black students on campus because his stand on a racial harassment policy is unprinci- pled." "You can't simply say 'No Code.' You have to talti the next step and say you are for the protection of' Black students on campus." Schnaufer, Phillips' cohort on many student issues; said Phillips is strong-minded but will come around t& seeing views other than his own. "Mike sees his job a doing what's right," he said. "By the end of the year, he- will be a better politician. He'll compromise more and not make enemies." OVERDORF SAID Phillips has started to move in that direction. "Mike opposed any discriminatory acts policy for a long time," she said. "But he has agreed to accept a student-controlled policy, and that was a big step."r Phillips is slow to change his mind because he' thinks he's on top of everything. He's a voracios, reader and spends more than 50 hours a week at MSA' researching current events, digging up dirt on Univdr sity administrators, talking to students, and occasion' ally meeting with state and national legislators about campus issues such as rent control and financial aid. "He is the only person I know that goes to MSA ht' the crack of dawn and stays there all day," Schnaufer said. AND PHILLIPS expects equal dedication from? all representatives. But other representatives say the'j are hesitant to confront him because they never know what to expect. "There's two Mike Phillips'," said former MSA re and Music School graduate Marni Rachmiel. "There s Mike the nice guy who is a lot of fun. Then there's the Mike who refuses to apologize to Sarah and tells pe6o ple to shut up and goes off on Grizzly Adams trips; hiking off in his own direction not about to comprd mise an inch about anything." "It seems he doesn't listen. He's got his mind made up about things. He'll make a decision that someone is not worth bothering, and that's that." It's just part of the Phillips mystique. When he talks to someone, he can't sit still. He always seems preoccupied, usually with his head hung low, some times even shaking, but never still. When he can, he'll walk in circles. And if he's at his office, he'll likely be, carrying a broken goalie stick signed by past MSA presidents. "He comes across as so above it all," Kittrie said. "But he really listens and absorbs. He just doesn't show it." Hail to I including Phillips. WHEN HE was chair of MSA's Student Rights Committee last year, however, Phillips had no choice. He was always in the spotlight, perhaps overwhelmed but always rising to the occasion. At a protest or dur- ing an assembly meeting, he could rally virtually all representatives, liberal and conservative, behind him. "He's best known at MSA for his analogies," Kit- trie said. "He has a unique sense of circumstance. He's almost like Jesse Jackson." At MSA's first meeting of the winter term, after Interim University President Robben Fleming proposed a code of non-academic conduct, Phillips had to take a strong stand. THE HOUSE is on fire, Phillips said, and when that happens, there are three options. You can sit on the couch and watch T.V., run scared for your life, or try to put the fire out. He meant Fleming's proposal would put an end to student rights. Le Chief Ready to explode but carefully restraining himself, Phillips said he didn't care how students chose to act - as long as they didn't stop him from putting out the fire. "Mike is a leader," said recent Law School graduate and former MSA representative Eric Schnaufer. "He's a principled MSA president who doesn't compromise when he feels that his position is clearly right. He'd- rather lose and be right than win and be wrong." BUT HIS fanatical commitment to certain issues - his crusade against the code and his sustained hatred for Regent Deane Baker (R-Ann Arbor) - has turned off dissenting students. Phillips is impatient and ruth- lessly efficient, tending to listen to people who agree with him and ignoring those who don't. As MSA president, however, he must be diplomatic. And that hasn't always happened. CLASSIFIED ADSI Call 764-0557 Daily personals: A cheap, yet tasteful, way to say .. . ... You're speci al!i" Cornerstone CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP (an interdenominational campus fellowship) Students Dedicated to Knowing and Communicating Jesus Christ! L ____________ RESERVE OFFICERS' TRAINING CORPS It, YOUR UNCLE WANTS TO PAY FOR COLLEGE. 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