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Chris: Crossed Wire, the Frames,
All: Private Angst.
Diana: Angry Red Planet and
D: What about other influences,
Eugene Wicke: Taj Mahal,
Screamin' Jay Hawkins.
Diana: Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
Chris: I'm influenced a lot by
science fiction books and movies.
When I was a little kid, I used to
record laser beam noises off of Star
Trek and sci-fi noises have always
been big with me. Of course combined
with other stuff from younger days
like Beatles cartoons and the
Monkees and Gamelon music...
Scott: We just sort of second hand
the pop culture thing, taking what we
need and discarding the rest.
Chris: We take more from the feel
of the stuff we like than from the for-
ms. I mean, in the beginning, rock
and roll was a real physical and
human thing, with real pounding
drums etc., no synthetic stuff, and we
like to think of oursejves as con-
tinuing that history.j
Scott: But without being so naive as
to ignore the age we're living in. I
mean, we're not too human.
All: Unhuman, inhuman,
Diana: Of course there's no direct
lifting of ideas but we can't pretend
that we're not influenced by the
things that we listen to and enjoy.
Eugene: I always liked more
rhythmic things as opposed to more
melodic ones. That's why the bass has
always seemed so appealing.
D: How do your songs usually get
Diana: Usually, one person has a
basic idea and then everyone else just1
builds around it. Sometimes Chris
comes up with chords or notes or
Eugene comes up with a bassline or
Scott, who also plays guitar, will
come up with some sort of part. It
Chris: We have different ways.
Sometimes we'll just start playing
together and something will naturally
come about and then Diana will come
in with lyrics later. It's a real group
Diana: Everyone tries to con-
tribute as much as they can without
going off in four separate directions.
Chris: Our songs are more impor-
tant than our own ego trips or
whatever so we've never had any
problem with that (going off in un-
compatible directions). We never
even think about that. We give room
to each other.
D: What about lyrics? What do you
Diana: I sing about what I have to
sing about, things that I have
problems with, things that bother me.
Sometimes I try to consciously write
something more positive because
people tell me that the words are too
Scott: But I think that we try to
resolve things in the lyrics.
Diana: Yeah, that's true. Like
working on things, especially
problems in communication.
Chris: She writes visually too.
When I write lyrics, which isn't too
frequently, I like to do that too.
Usually, I have a kind of a feeling
when I write lyrics, something that's
not very concrete, difficult to explain.
The words just sort of come out
naturally, a lot like when I'mpainting
but just in a different medium.
Diana: Sometimes I get g certain
feeling when I hear a certain song and
I can't really decide what to write
about, it's just on my mind at the
time. When they start to play a new
song, I'll start out just humming
along and then certain phrases slip
out, almost subconsciously, and I can
usually built from there.
D: Do you have any type of artistic
or commercial goals/visions or is the
band completely spontaneous and
Chris: I think I speak for everyone
when I say that I can't think of
anything more fun than playing in a
band and since we do like it so much,
our main thing is that we each get
what we want out of it. We play what
comes most naturally to us, sounds,
Scott: We're just communicating
how we feel about things and maybe
that's kind of selfish but at the same
time we're also sharing.
D: Do you have any type of
message, any type of idea about how
you'd like the band to come across to
Chris: We probably believe in
everything that a lot of people believe
in. I mean we don't like to see other
people get hurt, we believe in peace,
everyone doing their own thing, all of
Scott: But we don't feel that any of
us are good enough to tell anyone else
what to think or feel.
Diana: It's more like asking
questions than giving answers.
Talking to each other. Hopefully, this
type of thing will become more
D: So now for the vital questions,
like the Sleep van.
By Steve Wise
T OMORROW's Michigan vs.
Illinois football game will not be
televised, but its absence from the
airwaves is not the result of poor
planning by the networks.
The Ilini can't appear on live TV at
all this season, and the reason for the
blackout raises some significant
questions about the state of college
The blackout is one of a number of
sanctions imposed on the University
of Illinois by the National Collegiate
Athletic Association. Illinois' probation
is one example of the NCAA's effort to
control what some people call an
epidemic of cheating in college
And while the Illini and 15 other
schools are on probation this year,
Michigan and many other schools
have avoided such sanctions and ap-
pear to have "clean" programs.
The rules that are violated most of-
ten concern recruiting of prospective
athletes. Illinois, in this respect, is a
typical case. Recruiting was the issue
in almost all its approximately 80
violations, which ranged from buying
can make or break a team.
"It leads to a situation where
everyone tiptoes up to the absolute
edge of the regulations," said David
Berst, head of the NCAA Enforcement
Department. "Some may step over
the line or around the rule to receive a
T IS Berst' job to find the
footprints on the far side of
that line. He gets help
from the Enforcement Department's
four administrators, 10 full-time in-
vestigators, and 25 part-time in-
The Enforcement Department
receives about 500 tips per year from
coaches, players and other sources.
About 30 of those turn into "major in-
vestigations," which can run as long
as the two years spent investigating
Illinois or as short as two months.
After the NCAA completes its in-
vestigation, the school must do its
own. The results of both probes are
passed to the NCAA Infractions
Committee, which decides on
penalties that can include bans from
television and post-season play,
restrictions on coaches actions and/or
salaries, and reductions in the num-
ber of scholarships a school may
grant in a given season.
Berst's staff operates under num-
erous limitations, including the lack
of subpoena power to gather evidence
of violations and the tendency of
violators to lie about their actions.
Berst also said some pay-off schemes
can be effectively hidden by "laun-
"If the money is coming out of an
uncle's or girlfriend's account, then
we can't get the records," he said. "If
THE SLEEP ATTACK: Nothing is immune.
plane tickets," he said. "We did not
get the same answer from two
Eventually investigators proved the
ticket violations and others by
following up on the conflicting infor-
mation. "We can find out," Berst
said. "We're not hamstrung."
But they don't pretend to have
solved the problem. Berst estimates
that about 10 to 15 percent of the 350.
"major institutions" in the NCAA are
committing intentional violations.
That means the 15 to 20 schools per
year which have been on probation
recently represent about half of the
number of schools which are believed
to be cheating.
"I don't think the enforcement arm
is going to solve the problem of
cheating in athletics," Berst said.
"We're going to have to be more ef-
fective in keeping the lid on."
One of the major factors in NCAA
sanctions has been intent. Critics
argue that coaches can easily violate
a rule unintentionally because there
are 350 pages of NCAA rules, 20 of
which cover recruiting.
"Many of the violations were very
minor in nature," said University of
Illinois Vice Chancellor Don Wendel.
"We found no evidence that there was
an organized plan by any member of
the atheltic staff to circumvent the
The NCAA's report on the Illinois
case tells a different story. Of two
former assistant coaches, it said,
"This inquiry demonstrates a
knowing and willful effort on their
part to operate the university's inter-
collegiate football program contrary
to the requirements and provisions of
Intent aside, both Berst and Moeller
agree that coaches can't claim lack of
knowledge as an excuse for violations.
"There's some involvement with
ignorance, with not knowing a rule,
but not with major violations,"
"That's our job, to know the rules."
"You don't need a manual to know
you can't hand over a Trans Am,"
Still the less obvious rules in the
manual draw criticism.
New rules governing what a school
may mail to recruits provide two
examples. "You can't send an ap-
plication," said Michigan's football
recruiting coordinator Fritz Seyferth.
"They did not identify that as one of
the things you can send and that's
Before he could mail them to
prospects, Seyferth also had to reprint
1,300 promotional brochures because
a foldout photograph in the pamphlet
was ruled a poster; the mailing rules
also prohibits'. sending posters to
The poster rule, according to
Moeller, was enacted when some
schools began sending recruits,
posters more and more often,
creating a situation in which less
wealthy programs were at a com-
petitive disadvantage. Some say the
poster rule and others like it are pet-
ty, but Moeller says it is useful.
"As dumb as some of the rules
sound, they're there for a purpose and
that's- to control excesses," said
Moeller a former Illinois head coach.
None of the violations found at Illinois
'You don't need a manua
hand over a Trans Am.
Chris: It'll be a lot like Arthur
Penhallow's van (celebrated Detroit
FM radio personality) with a big pic-
ture of his head airbrushed on the side
Diana: Except that it'll have all of
our asses instead and you'll have to
guess who each one belongs to.
Chris: We're going to have Sly
Stallone as Rambo on one side, Sch-
warzenegger as Commando on the
other and Chuck Norris on the hood.
Diana: Then I'm not going to ride
Chris: And of course a big paper
mache head of Bruce Springsteen
rotationg on top.
D: So what do you get when you join
the Sleep fan club?
All: We get to practice at your
house for a month. You get your own
key to the door of hell.
Sleep will be playing tonight,
November 8 at the Halfway Inn with
two other fine local bands, Private
Angst and Crossed Wire.
'Everybody tries to get one up on the others.
They try to find something they can do in
recruiting that someone is not doing. . . It's
like putting another play in your offense or
- Gary Moeller
assistant football coach
at the University
took place during Moeller's reign
While Berst agrees that the more
minor rules are important, he says1
they can cause problems. When a'
team is placed on probation, coaches
can try to divert attention from their
major violations by claiming that the
NCAA focused on small, apparently
"I would just as soon eliminate the
rules that create that kind of reac-
tion," Berst said.
L eonard Koppett, an author and
former New York Times spor-
tswriter, would abolish more than just
a few rules.
"I'm opposed to the entire concept
of regulating recruiting," said Kop-
pett, whose book Sports Illusion,
Sports Reality suggests some NCAA
"NCAA rules in themselves are a
rotten idea created by a self-serving
body," he said.
Koppett says NCAA regulations
serve only to legitimize the financial
aims of member institutions with big
athletic programs. In supporting en-
forcement, he says, coaches and ad-
minstrators are covering up their true
motives: profits and victories rather
than grade point averages.
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