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Inquiring
Photographer
by A lisa Block
IN BRIEF
How do you think the large size of the University affects your education?"
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Craig Thomas, 1st year Dental
School: "With a large school
you get more exposure to a lot
more different people. You
also get the arts and culture
with the people. I think it's
beneficial-you get the best
education from the best
professors. You also get better
facilities such as libraries."
Fred Shaw, 4th year Medical
school: "Large classes tend to
increase competition, yet the
size provides opportunities to
meet people of various
backgrounds and experiences.
There is no doubt that a
larger college population
provides each student with the
opportunity to meet others of
sharply contrasting
backgrounds and views. That
type of interaction has the
greatest potential for in-
creasing personal growth."
Wendy Adelman, LSA
sophomore: "It bothers me in
my pre-Med classes that the
University is so big becuase it
is easy to be cheated out of
personal help. Most professors
are not suited to teach in-
troductory courses effectively
for undergraduates. Also it's
very easy for a student to get
lost in the confusion and not
know where to look for help.
On the other hand, the diver-
sity is good. Socially, I like the
size- academically I don't "
Mitchell Folbe, LSA junior: "I
like it because you're always
meeting new and exciting
people. Diversity is the key."
Adam Cole, LSA junior: "As a
freshman or sophomore, you
have to have some self-
discipline. If not, the size will
cause you to be left out. It can
scare you at first, but once you
get used to it, it's not so bad.
Socially, I think it's great!
With so many people, it allows
for extreme diversity. It
provides for a lot of activities
and happenings in many
places on campus."
Compiled from Associated Press and
United Press International reports
Delegates set talks schedules
GENEVA, Switzerland-U.S. and Soviet delegations to the arms control
talks have agreed on schedules for negotiations that begin next week, the
U.S. delegation said yesterday.
The delegation said the first negotiating group on space weapons will meet
Tuesday at the Soviet mission.
The group on long-range strategic weapons will meet on Wednesdays and
the team on medium-range missiles will meet on Thursdays.
Finland's prime minister said yesterday Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev
will reply in a "good-mannered way" to President Reagan's invitation to
hold a summit meeting.
Finnish Prime Minister Raleva Sorsa said Gorbachev did not tell him if he
would agree to meet Reagan.
"He is going to answer Reagan's letter in a good-mannered way," said
Sorsa, who was in Moscow as chairman of the Socialist International Disar-
mament Consultative Committee.
Reagan told a news conference in Washington Thursday that chances were
"good" for an early summit.
Jihad claims 3 kidnappings
BEIRUT, Lebanon-Three French Embassy workers were kidnapped
yesterday and the Islamic Jihad terror group announced it carried out the
abductions to retaliate for a French-Saudi Arabian arms deal opposed by
Iran.
In south Lebanon, Israeli forces raided a Shiite Moslem village, killing at
least one person one day after storming at least eight other such towns and
killing at least 23 people, including two members of a CBS News camera
crew.
Israeli Prime Miflister Shimon Peres in Jerusalem rejected condemnation
of the killing of the newsmen, saying the journalists were standing among
hostile guerrillas. CBS called for further investigation.
French Vice Consul Marcel Fontaine was abducted by two bearded gun-
men as he walked towork in Beirut yesterday, witnesses told police. Two
other French Embassy workers were abducted in a separate incident.
Hand grenades blow out
walls of So. African building
JOHANNESBURG, South Africa-Two hand grenades were tossed into a
government building in Soweto yesterday, a day after police gunfire killed 18
blacks in a crowd marching toward a white town. Disturbances were repor-.
ted in several other black townships.
The exploding hand grenades blew out interior walls of the one-story
building in Soweto, but no one was injured because the attack occurred at
about 4 a.m., authorities said.
The violence Thursday at Uitenhage, in which 29 other blacks were woun-
ded, was the bloodiest in a year of unrest in which nearly 250 blacks have
been killed. The white-minority government appointed a commission to in-
vestigte.
The looting occurred 25 years to the day after police fired into a crowd of
blacks at Sharpeville, killing 69 people and bringing the struggle for black
rights in South Africa to the world's attention.
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Hwa Jo, Engineering senior:
"Being in Engineering, the
classes are very large. It's
hard to get personal interac-
tion with professors. In LSA,
however, you get more of an
advantage becuase of the,
diversity."
Robert Currie, LSA junior: "I
think that the large population
of students helps to finance the
professors' salaries, and thus
it is important that the school
is large so that we can get bet-
ter professors. I've been to
smaller universities and you
just don't get the same impact
from the faculty. You can
learn a lot more by doing
things the way you want to do
them."
Charlie Schulman, RC
sophomore: "I don't like the
large lecture classes in LSA. I
feel herded around in those
classes. I like RC because it's
smaller than the whole univ-.
ersity. Also you get better
professors in RC and have bet-
ter relationships with them. I
couldn't imagine putting up
with all the crowds in LSA."
Gina Elizabeth Punch, LSA
sophomore: "The large size of
the University makes for
diversity in students and
faculty. I like the fact that
there is a wide variety of
classes offered at a large
school. Part of your education
is meeting and integrating
with different people and you
can do that because there are
so many different background
here. Long lines at CRISP are
frustrating, but I think it's
worth it to be on a large cam-
pus. It's the same at any
university of this size."
Mike Barron, LSA
sophomore: "A large school is
better for academics. It allows
for a larger variety of courses
and people. Also, there's a bet-
ter social life. It's a more real-
life setting than in a small
liberal arts college."
U. Council searches for solutions to safety problems
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regents will?" she asked.
The council decided to send a memo
next week telling the regents and the
administration that the council will
definitely not come up with a final
document by the end of the term. The
memo will also touch on what the coun-
cil has worked on so far, according to
Chairman Lee Winkelman, an LSA
senior.
THE COUNCIL'S fear may have been
unfounded, because the administration
has taken a hands-off attitude toward the
council - at least for now.
Virginia Nordby, the president's
liason to the council, said she hasn't
even read the minutes of the council's
meetings. Nordby testified at one of the
council's first hearings, but has not
been back since.
President Shapiro has also stated
repeatedly that he doesn't want to rush
the development of the code.
THE COUNCIL'S meetings so far
have focused on figuring out exactly
what the safety -uproblems are.
Representatives from the safety depar-
tment, the Michigan Student Assem-
bly's Women's lissues Committee, the
Ombudsman's Office, and other groups
talked about the problems and possible
solutions.
That phase lasted about two months.
Now comes.the hard part: formulating
concrete solutions to the problems.
William Sturgis, an administrative
representative on the council, said he is
skeptical about the possibility of
reaching a consensus on safety
problems.
"I THINK we have serious
philosophical differences," Sturgis
said. "Sometime, we're going to have
to face our differences and work them
out."
The basic philosophical differences
are clear: One side wants a com-
prehensive code, while the other side
wants a non-legalistic approach to the
problems.
Most members' views lie somewhere
in between those two extremes, and
Winkelman is counting on the ability of
the council to strike a compromise.
WINKELMAN'S approach is to
tackle problems one at a time and
develop unique solutions to each of
them. In the case of sexual assault, for
example, Winkelman wants to look at
pre-emptive solutions like better
lighting and education programs as
possible substitutes for a legalistic
solution.
Sturgis, however, suggested that put-
ting off work on the legalistic
solutions could take too long. "You're
just stringing it along," he said.
But Eric Schnaufer, a first-year law
student on the council, said that looking
at non-legalistic solutions to safety
problems - such as mediation and
education is essential to coming up
with a fair document.
"IT DOESN'T make any sense to
have rules, prohibitions, and sanctions
that are disassociated from positive
programs," he said.
Eklund pointed out that the council's
express purpose is to "formulate and
propose uniform regulations governing
the conduct (individually or in the
aggregate) of students, teaching staff
POLICE
NOTES
Video equipment taken
$4,000 worth of video equipment-in-
cluding a recorder, camera, lenses, and
a monitor-was taken from a closet in
the new business administration
library Thursday. According to Leo
Heatley of campus security, employees
deduced the equipment was taken within
the past week and there was no eviden-
ce of forced entry into the closet or the
building.
... and administrators," according to a
regental bylaw.
Archie Andrews, housing program
director and an administrative
representative on the council, agreed:
"I feel very strongly that we need a
code."
ANDREWS SAID that the criminal
justice system often works too slowly to.
protect potential victims. If a student
commits a serious crime, Andrews
said, he should be kicked off campus as
soon as possible.
"To wait for the wheels of justice to
grind away, we expose other students to
that problem," he said. He added,
however; that students should be affor-
ded adequate due process.
The faculty members are most likely
to emphasize a double approach,
although nearly all council members
seem willing to compromise.
Winkelman, a vocal opponent of past
versions of the code, said he wants to
reach a consensus with the rest of the
council. "I'm willing to talk about their
interests," he said. "I think what we'll
see is a certain amount of give and
take."
BUT Winkelman emphasized that he
would nQt agree to a comprehensive
code. "The ultimate thing we come up
with will benefit students," he said. "I
think we're going to end up with
something. I don't think it's going to be
a code."
One area of dispute could be whether
a non-academic code of conduct should
address the issue of violent crime.
Students have said that problems
such as rape, assault, and arson should
be left to the criminal courts, but others
have suggested that the University
needs a way to get alleged criminals off
campus while they are awaiting trial.
Medical Prof. Rucknagel sided with
the students. "I don't view the problem
as violent crime, because there's a
system set up to deal with that," he
said. He added, however, that the
University should outline what it con-
siders inappropriate behavior.
American lifespan hits 74.7
WASHINGTON-The nation's annual health report card shows Americans
are living longer than ever, but the infant death rate-particularly among
blacks-must be brought down, Health Secretary Margaret Heckler said
yesterday.
The report, "Health United States 1984," shows lifespan is at a record,
with an American born in 1983 expected to live 74.7 years.
Death rates from heart disease, the leading cause of death, dropped 26
percent and those deaths resulting from stroke, another major killer, drop-,
ped 48 percent between 1970 and 1983.
The nation's infant mortality rate is at its lowest ever, with 10.6 babies.
dying during the first year of life per 1,000 births in 1984.
The black rate is nearly double the white rate, however, and the pace of
progress has slowed in recent years.
The infant mortality rate reached 10.9 deaths for every 1,000 live births in
1983, a .3 percent decline. But the lowest rate for black infant mortality in
any state is still 31 percent higher than the highest rate for whites, the report
said.
Ohio governor approves limited
operations for savings & loans
COLUMBUS, Ohio - All of Ohio's state-chartered savings and loan
associations got the go-ahead yesterday to re-open for limited withdrawals
pending their attempts to get federal insurance to cover full-service
operations.
At the same time, the office of Gov. Richard Celeste announced that seven
Ohio institutions that have applied for federal insurance are free to open
with each deposit up to $100,000, fully insured by the Federal Savings and Loar,
Insurance Corp.
Robert McAlister - named by the governor earlier yesterday as the
state's new S&L superintendent - introduced himself as "a re-opening
czar" and said he plans to get all of the S&Ls back in business within 120
days.
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Correction
The vice presidential candidate for
the Michigan Student Assembly run-
ning on the Moderates of the University
of Michigan ticket is LSA junior
Thomas Salvi. Thursday's Daily in-
correctly identified him as Thomas
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