Tuesday, May 1$, 1976

THE MICHIGAN DAILY

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Tuesday, May 18, 1976 THE MICHIGAN DAILY Page Five

Udall: Effusive Arizonian makes a bid

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get down to a one-on-one con-
test. I would have won Massa-
chusetts with the Shriver vote.
I would have won Wisconsin
with the Fred Harris vote. We
simply had too many candi-
dates. To draw the sweeping
conclusion that the cause of
liberalism is dead is incorrect.
There's a majority out there
if we ever put it together.
DAILY: PRESIDENT FORD
JUST SIGNED A NEW FEC
BILL. WILL YOU GET THE
RESULTING 'MATCH-
ING' FUNDS IN TIME FOR
MICHIGAN?
Udall: No. He deliberately
sat on this so that Reagan
wouldn't have money in Michi-
gan out of that fund. Now he's
succeeded. He knew what was
going to be in that bill for a
month, he didn't need to study
it for a week. He hasn't even
sent them the names of the
commissioners yet. They have
to be confirmed by the Senate
before the money can be soent.
DAILY: HOW BADLY WILL
YOU BE HURT BY THE LOSS
OF UNION SUPPORT?
Udall: Oh, it's a minus but
Itm getting a lot of labor sup-
port. I'm going over the heads
of the leaders to the rank and
file, and doing well at it. In
Pennsylvania everybody who
was anybody supported Jack-
son, and labor and labor un-
ion members went for Carter.
So. the ability to deliver these
things, p'ratienlarly in the pri-
maries where you've got some-
body with my kind of labor re-
cord, it's not all that erlcial.
DAILY: Y O U R PEOPLE
I! WXE CONDUCTED A POLL
IIEttE IN MICHIGAN THAT
ShOWS CARTER AHEAD.
110W FAR BEHIND ARE
YOU?
Udall: I'm pledged not to get

into numbers on this. We start-
ed 'out two-to-one behind him
(Carter) in Wisconsin and
closed the gap. I was two to
one behind him in his own poll
in Connecticut and closed the
gap. We were well back in that
general range when we started
here (in Michigan). The ques-
tion is if we can come on fast
enough.
DAILY: IF THE CONVEN-
TION WERE DEADLOCKED,
WOULD YOU - SUPPORT HU-
BERT HUMPHREY?
Udall: Humphrey's a good
man and a friend and we stand
together on most of the issues.
I'm not going to engage in
hypothetical what-ifs. At the
convention I don't think I'll
have any trouble supporting
good Democrats and getting a
good nominee.
DAILY: WOULD YOU SUP-
PORT CARTER IF HE GETS
THE NOMINATION?
Udall: I've said all along
that there is no potential ticket
out there that I couldn't sup-
nort - except for George Wal-
lace.
DAILY: BUT WOULD YOU
CAMPAIGN ACTIVELY?
Udall: Let's see what they
come up with. I've never failed
to actively support the Demo-
cratic presidential ticket, and
I don't expect to have any
trouble this time. I expect to be
heading the ticket so I don't
want to get into specifics with
you on that.
DAILY: YOU SEEM TO BE
CONCENTRATING Y O U R
EFFORTS HERE ON TELEVI-
SION AND RADIO APPEAR-
ANCES. DON'T YOU THINK
IT MIGHT BE BETTER TO
GET OUT AND HAVE A LOT
OF PERSONAL CONTACT
WITH THE VOTERS?.
Udall: I would prefer to do
more of that. I was at the plant

gate at Chrysler at six yester-
day morning doing that and
we've done streetwalks. We
meet an awful lot of people,
but in a state of eight million
people, in ten days you can
shake hands twenty-fours a
day, or every second and a half
and touch (only) a fraction of
the voters. So you're stuck
whether you like it or not.
When you're out of money, big
money, you're stuck trying to
get through the free media, the
newspapers, the television, the
radio, as much contact as pos-
sible.
DAILY: YOU KEEP SAY-
ING YOU CAN'T IMPRESS
VOTERS WITH A SMILE THE
WAY CARTER DOES, BUT
YOU DO SEEM TO IMPRESS
PEOPLE BY HAVING BEEN
A PROFESSIONAL BASKET-
BALL PLAYER. DO YOU
THINK YOUR SPORTS BACK-
GROUND HAS HELPED YOU?
Udall: It's helpful. I've al-
way had good rapport on the
college campuses with young
people and with the intellect-
uals and the suburban middle
income people. The fact that

I'm-an athlete, a sports figure,
that kind of thing helps iden-
tify with the blue-collar peo-
ple, with other elements in the
electorate. And so we use it. I
always thought I was a warm,
friendly personality just like
Jimmy Carter. But that smile
and what knows has become
the trick.
DAILY: WHEN I WAS AT
CARTER'S SPEECH L A S T
WEEK, HE DENIED KNOW-
ING ANYTHING A B O U T
YOUR CHALLENGE TO BE
ON THE LOU GORDON
SHOW. DO YOU KNOW IF
HE KNOW'S ABOUT IT?
Udall: We sent him a tele-
gram. We talked to his Detroit
headquarters. He doesn't want
to debate.
DAILY: DO YOU THINK
HE'S TELLING AN UNTRUTH
A B O U T NOT KNOWING
ABOUT IT?
Udall: I can't imagine that
Western Union didn't deliver a
telegram that was sent. Some
staff person may have decided
not to show it to him. I don't
know, but I know it was sent.

Md. primary
Brown or
Carter?.
(Coniierd leom 51,e 3)
ON FOREIGN policy: "It's
not enough to have Super K
flying around practicing jet-lag
diplomacy."
On fiscal policy: "I'm not con-
servative, I'm just cheap-with
your tax dollar."
On automobiles: "Why is it
that the Japanese can make a
car that can get 31 miles per
gallon-and Detroit can't? We're
the ones that taught them how
to make cars in the first place!"
BROWN WAS well-received by
the small crowd that gathered
in Rockville's Bicentennial Plaza
to hear him speak.
"I think we need someone like
him," said one middle-aged on-
looker. "He's young, vital, and
." Her voice and eyes trailed
off to follow the candidate as he
made his way through the crowd
to his next campaign appoint-
ment.



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